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"smoking gun" on commie John Conyers--PLEASE FORWARD WIDELY
World Can't Wait | 7/7/07 | Exposing the Left

Posted on 07/07/2007 5:14:17 AM PDT by exposing_the_left

Please help me get this information out to the American people. I've been sending it to various conservative media for months and NOT ONE has done anything with it! Confirm for yourselves, copy & paste, then forward to as many media sources as possible. This bum Conyers, who heads the powerful House Judiciary Committee and is out "investigating" the White House, needs to be EXPOSED before the American people as the treasonous RAT that he is! And any politician, Left or Right, who does NOT immediately call for Conyers' impeachment should also be held accountable. This group that Conyers has allied himself with has, on their website, called for a bloody "Peoples Revolution" in the streets of America (check my links below). Forget the fact that the morons in his home district love the SOB and will never vote him out of office no matter what he does, we need to pressure our representatives and DEMAND they hold hearings and investigate HIM!
Thanks!,
"LC"

On Oct 5, 2006, Democrat Chairman of the House Judiciary Committee, John Conyers Jr, *gave a speech* to the World Can't Wait--Drive Out the Bush Regime organization. http://www.worldcantwait.net/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=3114&Itemid=243

Or, if the long url above breaks up:
http://tinyurl.com/ygx9w6

Before that he PUBLICLY ENDORSED THE MOVEMENT! See "Endorsers of the Call to Drive Out the Bush Regime Include...". (Conyers' endorsement appears immediately after Ward Churchill's)
http://worldcantwait.net/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=2538&Itemid=2

Or, if the long url above breaks up:
http://tinyurl.com/ef6z6

FACT! World Can't Wait--Drive Out the Bush Regime is a MAOIST- revolutionary movement initiated and controlled by the Revolutionary Communist Party
(scroll down the list that appears to find the World Can't Wait organization --rwor.org is the website of the Revolutionary Communist Party) :
http://rwor.org/a/rwlink/links.htm

From David Horowitz's
FrontpageMag.com /DiscoverTheNetworks.org:

Profile: World Can't Wait--Drive Out the Bush Regime (WCW)

*Revolutionary communist movement that stages protests against the Bush administration

*Organizes college and high-school students

*Founded in June 2005 by Charles Clark Kissinger, a longtime leader of the Revolutionary Communist Party

http://www.discoverthenetworks.org/groupProfile.asp?grpid=7213

From the website of the Revolutionary Communist Party, parent org behind World Can't Wait--Drive Out the Bush Regime, the same organization that democrat Chair of the House Judiciary Committee endorsed, then gave a SPEECH to!

The RCP "Mission Statement": "Create Public Opinion, Seize Power! We are preparing minds and organizing forces for the time when there is a major crack in the system, whenever it comes and wherever it comes from: an opening that makes it possible to bring the future Revolutionary Army of the Proletariat (R.A.P.) into the field and wage a revolutionary armed struggle that actually has a chance of winning. And we have said that building our party itself is the most important part of organizing forces for revolution. This is true now, and it is true looking forward to the creation of that future R.A.P. and the waging of that armed struggle. ":
http://revcom.us/a/v20/1000-1009/1000/barw.htm

Here's the Revolutionary Communist Party (see link below) boasting of a FULL PAGE 'World Can't Wait--Drive Out the Bush Regime' ad of theirs which actually appeared in the New York Slimes.
(either "rwor.org" or "revcom.us" takes you to the website of the Revolutionary Communist Party). The NY Times allowed a 2nd full-page RCP/WCW ad to be run several months later! In fact, they are, or have very recently, ran another large ad.
http://www.rwor.org/a/028/who-hated-bush-ad.htm

From the World Can't Wait--Drive Out the Bush Regime "Youth and Students" page:

"The Students Are Stirring | Print | E-mail Good interview by Ron Jacobs interviewing a SDS organizer in North Carolina who is organizing for the March 20th walkouts. A Campus Antiwar Movement Begins to Make Its Mark

[an article] By Ron Jacobs"
http://www.worldcantwait.net/index.php? option=com_content&task=view&id=3961&Itemid=5 or,

http://tinyurl.com/3yek4w

SDS = Students for a Democratic Society, a so-called "anti-war" (actually Maoist-revolutionary) organization which formed during the Vietnam era. They later split off into several other groups, one of which was the communist-revolutionary TERRORIST group The Weathermen.

Democrat Underground bloggers ("DUmmies") APPLAUD commie Conyers for signing the Revolutionary Communist Party call to "Drive Out the Bush Regime"

Read their outrageous comments here!

"Statement from [Democrat] Jim McDermott, U.S. Congressman from Washington To participants in the World Can't Wait actions today":
(rwor.org is the website of the REVOLUTIONARY COMMUNIST PARTY, and World Can't Wait--Drive Out the Bush Regime is their Maoist "anti-war" front group)
http://rwor.org/a/024/more-voices-from-november-2.htm

Again, from the RCP website, rwor.org:

"Tearing Up the U.S. Paper Tiger in Korea: How 300,000 Chinese Troops Snuck into Korea and Kicked the Ass of the U.S. Armed Forces" RW #1059, June 18, 2000:
http://rwor.org/a/v22/1052-059/1059/korea.htm

And here's some more evidence I dug-up on the commies in the demonRat party!

Is that DEMOCRAT House Ways and Means Chairman, CHARLIE RANGEL (who appears on FoxSnooze almost daily), speaking at the podium of a Workers World Party / Troops Out Now rally???

But first, from the website of the Workers World Party, workers.org:

"On July 9 (1994), Workers World Party Chairperson Sam Marcy sent the following statement to Comrade Kim Jong Il, the Central Committee of the Workers Party of Korea and the State Funeral Committee of President Kim Il Sung.":

"Dear Comrade Kim Jong Il...

Workers World Party values our close, comradely relations with the Workers Party of Korea very highly. We are proud to have known Kim Il Sung as a great leader and a comrade in the international communist movement. ...

With comradely solidarity, Sam Marcy Chairperson, Workers World Party":

http://www.workers.org/marcy/cd/sam94/1994html/s940721.htm

...this next item is also from the website of the Workers World Party, workers.org:

PHOTO!...Democrat representative and Chairman of the House Ways and Means Committee (also Korean war vet), Charlie Rangel, speaking at the podium of a Workers World Party / Troops Out Now rally in Harlem, New York, on March 19th, 2005, the 2nd anniversary of the start of the Iraq war. Also observe the photo to the immediate left of Rangel's. It is of commie and terrorist attorneys, Lynn Steward and Attorney General under LBJ, Ramsey Clark. Clark chairs the International Action Center (IAC) and served as counsel for Saddam Hussein at his war crimes trial:

See photos at this link:
http://www.workers.org/march19/index2.html

Here are a few not-so "anti-war" statements from the Workers World Party front, "Troops Out Now". (clarifications within brackets were inserted by myself, a link to the original source is included at the end of the statements-LC) :

TROOPS OUT NOW: "It is time for the antiwar movement to acknowledge the absolute and unconditional right of the Iraqi people to resist the occupation of their country without passing judgment on their methods of resistance.[i.e., it's ok to saw the heads off of captured and bound hostages while they beg hopelessly for their lives, or to car bomb tens of freedom-seeking Iraqis at a time while they line up to join the police force or cast votes in the country's first ever free election. Even dragging school teachers out of a classroom and shooting them before the terrified eyes of their little students is cool with us. (this actually happened btw)-LC]...

their statement continues...

"Even the founding charter of the United Nations clearly affirms the right of an occupied people to resist by force of arms."

"We need to demand the immediate, complete and unconditional withdrawal of all U.S. occupation troops from Iraq."[what good commie doesn't want a Russian-backed Iran to gain control of Iraq?-LC]

"We must support politically, morally and organizationally members of the U.S. armed services who are resisting the war, moreover, we must encourage this resistance." "There must no longer be any hesitation on the part of our movement regarding our support of the struggle of the Palestinian people to free themselves from occupation.[in other words, blowing up innocent civilians at restaurants and shopping malls is just fine with us-LC] As a movement we have made a huge step forward in this regard. There must be no turning back."

"We must work to facilitate the widest unity between all of the forces that are seriously organizing against the war and occupation."

All of the above statements can be found at this Troops Out Now web page:
http://www.troopsoutnow.org/statements/outnow.html

"LC" (Exposing the Left)


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To: BusterBear
The complete list of signers of the "World Can't Wait" ad that appeared in the NYT.
What a lovely group of god-fearing, USA loving people... gag!

ACT UP, New York City
Imam Talib Abdur-Rashid, Mosque of Islamic Brotherhood Pam Africa
After Downing Street Coalition
Alberto Lovera Bolivian Circle, NYC
Aimee Allison, army conscientious objector (Gulf War ‘90)
Tom Ammiano, SF Board of Supervisors
Aris Anagnos, Los Angeles
Anti-Flag
Carlos Arango, director, Casa Aztlan*
Edward Asner
Axis of Justice
Rosa Ayala, Justice for Janitors*
William Ayers, professor and author
Russell Banks, writer
Father Luis Barrios, Iglesia San Romero de Las Americas, NYC
Rev. Willie Barrow, Women Connecting*
Ed Begley, Jr.
Dave Berenson, US Green Party, Cleveland
Michael Berg, anti-war activist
Jessica Blank, writer, actor
Blaze Bonpane, author
Bob Bossie, SCJ, 8th Day Center for Justice*
Elombe Brath, Patrice Lumumba Coalition, NYC
Carol Brightman, author, Total Insecurity
Dennis Brutus
Gabriel Byrne
Campus Anti-War Network (CAN)
Tim Carpenter, dir., Progressive Democrats of America
Chicago ADAPT
Ward Churchill
Citizens For Legitimate Government
Kate Clinton, humorist
David Cobb, 2004 Green Party Presidential Candidate
Barry Crimmins, writer/correspondent, Air America Radio
Code Pink: Women for Peace
Steve Colman, poet
Culture Clash
Chris Daly, SF Board of Supervisors
DC Anti-War Network
Democrats.com
Carl Dix, Revolutionary Communist Party
Dominican Women's Development Center, NYC
Tom Duane, NY State Senator
Michael Eric Dyson, author, Is Bill Cosby Right?
Steve Earle
Edwin Ellis, president, Veterans for Peace, LA*
Eve Ensler
Martin Espada, poet
Michelle Esrick, actor, filmmaker, poet
Christian Ettinger, exec. producer, The Weather Underground
Jodie Evans, Code Pink
Nina Felshin, curator, writer
Rev. John Fife
Jane Fonda
Michael Franti, musician
Aaron Freeman, comedian
Samina Faheem Fundas, American Muslim Voice*
reg e. gaines, poet, playwright
Deborah Glick, NY State Assemblywoman
Global Justice & Peace Ministries, Riverside Church, NYC
Frances Goldin, literary agent
Sam Greenlee, filmmaker, poet
André Gregory, theater director
Andy Griggs, Exec. Board, United Teachers of LA*
Jose Guerrero, artist, muralist, Chicago
Paul Haggis, film director/producer, Crash
Haitian Coalition for Justice
Suheir Hammad, poet
Sam Hamill, Poets Against War*
Kathleen Hanna, Le Tigre
David Harris, writer, founder of The Resistance*
Jon Hendricks, jazz singer/lyricist
Jon Hendricks, artist
Hermandad Mexicana
Warren M. Hern, MD, MPH, PhD, dir., Boulder Abortion Clinic
Hip Hop Caucus
Marie Howe, poet, writer
Impeach Bush Coalition
Islamic Circle of North America (ICNA Relief USA)
Islamic Association of America
Abdeen Jabara, past pres., American-Arab Anti-Discrimination Committee*
Ron Jacobs, writer
Mumia Abu-Jamal, political prisoner, journalist
Alan Jones, dean of faculty, Pitzer College*
Bill T. Jones, choreographer
Sarah Jones, poet, actor
Rickie Lee Jones, musiciann
Esther Kaplan, author, With God On Their Side
Casey Kasem
Robin D.G. Kelley, Columbia University
M. Ali Khan, American Muslim Council
Margot Kidder
C. Clark Kissinger
Frances Kissling, pres., Catholics for a Free Choice*
Yuri Kochiyama
Ron Kovic, author, Vietnam Veteran
Jonathan Kozol
Joyce Kozloff, artist
Ray Laforest, organizer, DC 1707, AFSCME; member Pacifica National Board
Beth Lamont
Martha Lavey
Mark Leno, CA State Assemblyman
Rabbi Michael Lerner, editor, Tikkun magazine
James Levin, co-director, Cleveland Festival of Arts & Technology
Simon Levy, director, What I Heard About Iraq
Toby Devan Lewis
Bruce Lincoln, prof., History of Religions, Univ. of Chicago
Margarita Lopez, NY City Council Member
Haki R. Madhubuti, publisher, Third World Press
Gregory Maguire, author, Wicked
Make the Road by Walking, Bushwick, Brooklyn, NY
Lucinda Marshall, founder, Feminist Peace Network*
Bill Martin, philosopher
Allen Michann, owner, Grand Lake Theater, Oakland, CA
Ellen McLaughlin, actress, playwright
Camilo Mejia, conscientious objector
Dave Meserve, Arcata, CA City Council member
Carol Migden, CA State Senator
Carly Miller, Clothing of the American Mind
Ross Mirkarimi, SF Board of Supervisors
Millions More Movement, Pittsburg/Antioch CA org. com.
Bill Mitchell, co-founder, Gold Star Families for Peace*
Leon Mobley, musician
Tom Morello, Audioslave*
Tracie Morris, poet
Andrew Muñana, Images Salón, East LA
National Lawyers Guild
Armando Navarro, chair, Ethnic Studies, UC Riverside
Bill Nevins, teacher, Albuquerque
Not in Our Name
Mike and Julie Nussbaum
Efia Nwangaza, national co-chair, Jericho Movement
Brian O'Leary, PhD., author, former astronaut
Bertell Ollman, prof., Dept. of Politics, NYU
R. Tomás Olmos, Pres., Mexican-Amer. Bar Found., LA County Outernational
Ozomatli
Jose Padilla, exec. dir., CA Rural Legal Assistance*
Grace Paley, writer
Patrick Henry Democratic Club
Rosalind Petchesky, prof., Hunter College & Grad Center, CUNY
The Network in Solidarity with the People of the Philippines
Peter Phillips, Project Censored, Soc. Dept Sonoma State Univ.
Jeremy Pikser, screenwriter, Bulworth
Harold Pinter, playwright, 2005 Nobel Prize winner
Frances Fox Piven
Sterling Plumpp, poet
Kevin Powell, writer
Progressive Democrats of America
Queers for Economic Justice
Jerry Quickley, poet and playwright
Malik Rahim, New Orleans Community Organizer
Michael Ratner, Center for Constitutional Rights*
Reach Hip Hop Coalition
Raghava Reddy, stem cell biologist, filmmaker
Eric Resnick, reporter, Gay People's Chronicle*
Allan Rich, screenwriter/actor
Boots Riley, The Coup
Walter Riley, lawyer
Douglas Rushkoff, author
Kalamu ya Salaam, Listen to the People
JD Samson, Le Tigre
Sonia Sanchez, poet
Rev. Henry Sanders, Fountain of Life Missionary Baptist Church, Watts, CA
San Francisco Bayview Newspaper
Sapphire, poet, writer
Rinku Sen, Colorlines*
Richard Serra
Lou Shaw, writer, creator of Quincy MD
Cindy Sheehan
Martin Sheen
Stanley Sheinbaum, economist, LA
Nancy Spero, artist
Dona Spring, Berkeley Council member
Lynne Stewart, lawyer
Sunsara Taylor, Revolution newspaper
Studs Terkel Marianne Torres, Peace & Justice Action League, Spokane*
Dwight Trible, jazz vocalist
Gore Vidal
Kurt Vonnegut
Alice Walker
Naomi Wallace, playwright
Wavy Gravy
Leonard Weinglass, lawyer
Rev. Dave Weissbard, Unitarian Universalist Church, Rockford, IL
Cornel West, Princeton University
Rev. Phil Wheaton, co-pastor, Community of Christ, Wash. DC Saul Williams, poet
Standish E. Willis, Nat. Conference of Black Lawyers
Krzysztof Wodiczko, artist
Ann Wright, former US diplomat, resigned in protest of Iraq war
Leland Y. Yee, Speaker pro Tem, CA State Assembly
Juanita Young, leader, October 22nd Coalition*
David Zeiger, filmmaker, Sir, No Sir!
Zephyr, graffiti artist, writer
Robert Zevin, Robert Brooke Zevin Associates, Inc.
Howard Zinn, historian, A Peoples' History of the United States
David Zirin, What's My Name, Fool? Sports and Resistance

21 posted on 07/07/2007 7:10:32 AM PDT by mc5cents (Show me just what Mohammd brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman)
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To: exposing_the_left
Or, just sit back and make your idiotic sarcastic comments to people who are getting the word out and at least trying to do something about it!

I think you need a refresher course on how to win friends and influence people.

22 posted on 07/07/2007 7:11:16 AM PDT by org.whodat (What's the difference between a Democrat and a republican????)
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To: exposing_the_left
You're not from Michigan, are you?

Conyers' shenanigans, to us here in the mitten, are a bad case of "same sh!t, different term." They come to nothing. His seat is safe as long as he wants it, just like Michigan's illustrious senior Senator Carl "Vladimir" Levin.

23 posted on 07/07/2007 7:17:14 AM PDT by grellis (Femininists for Fred!)
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To: exposing_the_left

I don’t disagree with you, but if you want media attention I would suggest you drop the “commie” word. It is as stale as Conyers himself.


24 posted on 07/07/2007 7:17:30 AM PDT by billhilly (My former tag line.)
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To: billhilly

“Commie” is a stale word, huh? What if it is accurate?


25 posted on 07/07/2007 7:38:00 AM PDT by Frank_Discussion (May the wings of Liberty never lose a feather!)
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To: exposing_the_left

Conyers is a hypocritical scumbag.

Seems to me the Left hid behind the doctrine of ‘the people’s will’ in defending the Rapist In Chief, i.e. we can’t ‘overturn an election’.

Sounds familiar.


26 posted on 07/07/2007 7:39:19 AM PDT by Stallone (Fred Thompson is the Man for the Times)
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To: org.whodat

Friendly fire.


27 posted on 07/07/2007 7:41:29 AM PDT by Stallone (Fred Thompson is the Man for the Times)
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To: ripley

The democRATS are pure.

Pure scum.


28 posted on 07/07/2007 7:42:49 AM PDT by Stallone (Fred Thompson is the Man for the Times)
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To: exposing_the_left
"Peoples Revolution" in the streets of America to overthrow the government.

I'm all for that, I say we get rid of ALL of them.

29 posted on 07/07/2007 7:45:26 AM PDT by unixfox (The 13th Amendment Abolished Slavery, The 16th Amendment Reinstated It !)
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To: exposing_the_left

conyers ~ affirmative action in congress!!!!


30 posted on 07/07/2007 7:49:56 AM PDT by nyyankeefan
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To: Hardastarboard

That needs to be repeated on every thread. Democrats LOVE their people to be BAD.


31 posted on 07/07/2007 7:51:44 AM PDT by Suzy Quzy
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To: BusterBear
I remember seeing the “World Can’t Wait” full page ad in the NY Times.

Yes, Bill O'Reilly actually had a segment on the ad, himself referring to the org and movement as "communist", so he knows full well. Prior to this, Sean Hannity had on H&C one of the WCW's national spokespeople, "Sunsara Taylor". She had the incredible nerve to wear, as she sat there at the H&C table, a Revolutionary Communist Party "Youth Brigade" t-shirt! No shit! Hannity, clueless about it all, merely asked "what's that you're wearing" and left it at that. On later Bill O'Reilly programs, Sunsara Taylor returned (as a WCW rep) to discuss other various issues without Bill making a single mention of who SHE was or of the Revolutionary Communist Party being the parent org behind the World Can't Wait--Drive Out the Bush Regime organization/movement, the org Taylor was representing.

Following are some links to the World Can't Wait on FoxSnooze:

"Sunsara Taylor on FOX's 'The O'Reilly Factor' Jan. 4, 2007": http://www.worldcantwait.net/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=3588&Itemid=12

From the left-wing site, News Hounds: We watch FOX so you don't have to.
"Sunsara Taylor was extremly articulate but was wearing a t-shirt with a graphic Communist Childrens Brigade [it was actually the Revolutionary Communist Youth Brigade I saw the program--ETL] This of course was an immediate invitation for Fox viewers to doubt her statements and turn this into a partisan battle, as always."
http://www.newshounds.us/2005/03/29/fox_style_support_for_michael_schiavo.php

Yahoo search results for "sunsara taylor" + "t-shirt" + "youth brigade": http://search.yahoo.com/search;_ylt=A0geu5dfqI9GcyQA70tXNyoA?p=%22sunsara+taylor%22%22t-shirt%22%22youth+brigade%22&y=Search&fr=slv8-iy

Countdown to Betrayal … or Mobilize to DRIVE OUT THE BUSH REGIME?
By Sunsara Taylor
(rwor.org or revcom.us takes you to the website of the Revolutionary Communist Party)
http://rwor.org/a/049/fall-2006-elections-betrayal-sunsara.html

Here's the Revolutionary Communist Party (see link below) boasting of the FULL PAGE 'World Can't Wait--Drive Out the Bush Regime' ad of theirs which appeared in the New York Slimes. (either "rwor.org" or "revcom.us" takes you to the website of the Revolutionary Communist Party). The NY Times allowed a 2nd full-page RCP/WCW ad to be run several months later! In fact, they are, or have very recently, ran another large ad.
http://www.rwor.org/a/028/who-hated-bush-ad.htm

32 posted on 07/07/2007 8:13:23 AM PDT by exposing_the_left (the primary threat in the world today is the commie - islamo-nazi alliance. their common enemy is us)
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To: exposing_the_left
Opposition Research


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33 posted on 07/07/2007 8:27:50 AM PDT by brityank (The more I learn about the Constitution, the more I realise this Government is UNconstitutional !!)
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To: exposing_the_left
"...that calls for a bloody "Peoples Revolution" in the streets of America"

Fine, let 'em start it.

34 posted on 07/07/2007 8:28:13 AM PDT by SC Swamp Fox (Join our Folding@Home team (Team# 36120) keyword: folding)
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To: wolfcreek
“called for a bloody “Peoples Revolution” in the streets of America”--exposing_the_left

We’re talking about a bunch of limp wristed, non-gun owning, pacifist, Liberals. They might break a few windows and turn over a couple of cars but, when it comes down to it, they’ll do what they do best...........cut and run.

The point isn't so much whether these creeps can ever actually pull it off, and they are NOT all clueless liberal pansies, a lot are old-school members of the Revolutionary Left, it's that a member of congress has ALLIED himself with people who are obvious enemies of the United States, who would, if they could, wage an "armed struggle" to overthrow the government. I don't know about you, but I think this bastard should immediately be removed and investigated.

35 posted on 07/07/2007 8:36:17 AM PDT by exposing_the_left (the primary threat in the world today is the commie - islamo-nazi alliance. their common enemy is us)
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To: exposing_the_left

Bookmarked


36 posted on 07/07/2007 8:36:18 AM PDT by 1035rep
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To: wolfcreek
called for a bloody “Peoples Revolution” in the streets of America--exposing_the_left

We’re talking about a bunch of limp wristed, non-gun owning, pacifist, Liberals. They might break a few windows and turn over a couple of cars but, when it comes down to it, they’ll do what they do best...........cut and run.--wolfcreek

The point isn't so much whether these creeps can ever actually pull it off, and they are NOT all clueless liberal pansies, a lot are old-school members of the Revolutionary Left, it's that a member of congress has ALLIED himself with people who are obvious enemies of the United States, who would, if they could, wage an "armed struggle" to overthrow the government. I don't know about you, but I think this bastard should immediately be removed and investigated.

37 posted on 07/07/2007 8:44:53 AM PDT by exposing_the_left (the primary threat in the world today is the commie - islamo-nazi alliance. their common enemy is us)
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To: Frank_Discussion

You can use the word as much as you want to, but as a long time professional media consultant, I can assure you that it is a turnoff. I doubt very much if you will see it in print in even the most conservative publications.


38 posted on 07/07/2007 9:19:39 AM PDT by billhilly (My former tag line.)
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To: billhilly

I guess I didn’t make my point clearly. Yes, I would personally use the word, but the other part of my question asks what term WOULD one use that is not “stale”?

Conyrs *is* a commie. So is Mz. Cankles.


39 posted on 07/07/2007 9:39:08 AM PDT by Frank_Discussion (May the wings of Liberty never lose a feather!)
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