Posted on 07/05/2007 9:58:02 PM PDT by freedomdefender
Rep. John Doolittle, a consevative California congressman, today joined others in his party rapidly deserting the president on the Iraq war.
At a town hall meeting in Rocklin and then in a meeting with the editorial board of the Sacramento Bee he questioned whether the conflict was worth the loss of more American lives. He said U.S. troops should be pulled back from the front lines "as soon as possible" and the fighting turned over to Iraqi forces.
A longtime supporter of the war, Doolittle called the situation in Iraq a "quagmire" on Thursday. "We've got to get off the front lines as soon as possible," Doolittle said at Rocklin City Hall, the Bee reported. "And in my mind that means something like the end of the year. We just can't continue to tolerate these kinds of losses."
(Excerpt) Read more at editorandpublisher.com ...
And by the way, we have a ways to go before we surpass the time spent fighting in Vietnam.
Plus our own war of independance.
Well, remember, there are competency tests for employment in almost all occupations. But not for politicians. Thus we get truly bad politicians. Our govt would probably be improved if we did away with elections and chose all elected positions via lottery ala jury duty selection.
Chosen? Do one term at whatever and that is it.
You said the war could be won in six weeks but then you gave absolutely no specifics. I would like you to grace us with your wisdom on the subject by explaining how you end a counterinsurgency in six weeks. That seems only fair given the boldness of your contention.
You are forgetting that little Southeast Asian dust up last century, aren’t you? And since American soldiers were still dying in Korea until recently, I would say that that one didn’t really end in 1953.
Michael Frazier
Why would an East Bay Assemblyman stand any chance in a foothills congressional district 100 miles away from his home base?
Just two days ago, Al Qaeda begged for more Jihadists to fight the Americans in Iraq and A-stan. You don’t like the war, freedomdefender? Tough! Al Qaeda declared war on the US in 1996. You don’t get a vote. Al Qaeda demands war and war is what they will get. It is just a matter of degree and where. Under the Republicans the Front is in Iraq, A-stan, Somalia, the Horn of Africa. Under the Democrats, the Front is NYC and DC.
Yes, we the country will most likely vote Democrat come 2008, but like I said earlier, idiot voters gave the Senate and House to Dems without a second thought as they pulled the lever for their beloved Webb, Murtha..... So, what the heck is the big deal if the Dems win the WH? People gave them the legislative branch and are proud of it.
If you want to read a damn fine post here is one worth your time.
It explains why we the people are so down the WOT. Gunner03, sideoutfred and SoCalPol, you will love it. Promise. You can trust me! ;)
I think this whole thread is coming from the irrational exeuberance of the Ron Paul crowd! They, along with Doolittle think the war is lost because the President jumped off the cliff on immigration.
There is no doubt the President hurt his own credibility with that, but the transferrence to the war issue is not one we conservatives should "knee-jerk" toward in wildly lurching lunges of fickle fanaticism!!!
If we screw this up by cutting and running, you better get ready for extreme economic damage that our grand and great grand parents experience in the great depression. I already see some careless comments that the economic risks are supposedly not important and that is false on it's face!!!
I believe Doolittle is pist because of the President not calling off his "dogs" in the Justice Dept!!! In a way, I can kind of understand his bitterness. I was disgusted with Doolittle once upon a time because he didn't do near enough to help my re-election bid... Nor did his prodigy Rico Oller who got beat by Dubious Dan Lundgren now in CONgress!!!
Do you know how to read? Here is what I posted:
"If we gave the order to our military to destroy the enemy in 6 weeks, they would do it."
Are you saying that our military would not be able to do this? I guess I have more faith in the superior firepower and capabilities of our troops than you have.
BTW, quit taking things out of context. I never said this is what our leaders should, at this time, order our military to do. Post 55 clearly lays out what I think we should plan on doing after the "surge".
Your repeated misquoting,"baiting" posts are becoming tiresome.
The troops are doing a magnificent job, they are doing what they are ordered to do. They, however, are soldiers and do not have the capability to make barbarians, who have been killing each other for centuries, somehow become peaceful global citizens. As soldiers, there is no doubt there are none better.
BTW, I have had the opportunity to speak with some very high ranking officers in the past few months and, make no mistake about it, they are very concerned with the situation in Iraq.
Amen! Faith goes far. Prayer for our brave men and women goes further.
“Speaking through an American interpreter, Lieutenant David Wallach who is a native Arabic speaker, the Iraqi official related how al Qaeda united these gangs who then became absorbed into “al Qaeda.” They recruited boys born during the years 1991, 92 and 93 who were each given weapons, including pistols, a bicycle and a phone (with phone cards paid) and a salary of $100 per month, all courtesy of al Qaeda. These boys were used for kidnapping, torturing and murdering people.
At first, he said, they would only target Shia, but over time the new al Qaeda directed attacks against Sunni, and then anyone who thought differently. The official reported that on a couple of occasions in Baqubah, al Qaeda invited to lunch families they wanted to convert to their way of thinking. In each instance, the family had a boy, he said, who was about 11 years old. As LT David Wallach interpreted the man’s words, I saw Wallach go blank and silent. He stopped interpreting for a moment. I asked Wallach, “What did he say?” Wallach said that at these luncheons, the families were sat down to eat. And then their boy was brought in with his mouth stuffed. The boy had been baked. Al Qaeda served the boy to his family.”
http://www.michaelyon-online.com/wp/baqubah-update-05-july-2007.htm
already posted here:
Baqubah Update: 05 July 2007 [The boy had been baked. Al Qaeda served the boy to his family]
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1861722/posts
July 5th Posting. I guess Micheal Yon missed the cocktail party in Baghdad.
Live from Baghdad - The press’s war.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1861262/posts
If you want to see the REAL non-NYT front page pictures, see this post:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1858768/posts?page=127#127
Warning: This is for tough stomachs ONLY. I am very serious. You have been warned.
Great Posts and thank you!
Those who think of just the economy or their state politics
rather than the life or death situation we face with the
IslamOFascist are like a person who enters ER with a hang
nail and mangled leg, but only wants the hang nail treated.
What good is losing a leg or life to keep a fingernail.
The war would have been over years ago if there was a united front at home. It's only because the democrats are such POS's that the jihadists keep getting their hopes up.
What you are saying is true, but we will never win with the left. If we are killing massive numbers of the enemy the press reports it as “massive slaughter of ‘innocent Iraqis’”.
Never mind I was thinking of Pombo’s district
“The longest war in American history, at this point, isn’t it?”
No, it’s not a war.
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