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Peru: Tomb Believed To Be Older Than "Señor de Sipan" Found In Northern Peru
Living In peru ^ | 7-3-2007

Posted on 07/04/2007 1:08:01 PM PDT by blam

Art/Culture/History | 3 July, 2007 [ 10:45 ]

Peru: Tomb believed to be older than "Señor de Sipan" found in northern Peru

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(LIP-ir) -- A team of archaeologists, led by Walter Alva, have discovered the wooden tomb of another member of the Mochica culture's elite - older than the "Señor de Sipan" (Lord of Sipan).

These findings belong to the Moche civilization, which ruled the northern coast of Peru from the time of Christ to 800 AD, centuries prior to the Incas.

Alva has stated that he and his team are investigating and within the next few days will know the role of this noble in the Mochica society.

"We have found the tomb of a person that belonged to Mochica nobility. Inside the coffin, discoveries of copper and copper-plated decorations - covered in rust, demonstrate that this person was not a Lord but was among the Mochica elite," Alva explained.

The archaeologist, who discovered the "Señor de Sipan" (Lord of Sipan) in 1987, has said that this discovery will provide valuable information about the Mochica culture. The mummy is estimated to be 1,800 years old, whereas it is estimated that the "Señor de Sipan" was buried 1,700 years ago.

"The tomb is of a person that appears on Mochica artwork, which shows he participated in important rituals. His headdress, which is V-shaped, identifies him as such," explained Alva.

The archaeologist explained the value of this discovery, "This is the tomb of a person we hadn't found, now we have the Mochica elite complete."

40 workers and 6 archaeologists are taking part in this work funded by the Ítalo Peruvian Fund and the government. This years budget is 600 thousand soles.


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KEYWORDS: godsgravesglyphs; peru; sipan; tomb

1 posted on 07/04/2007 1:08:08 PM PDT by blam
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To: SunkenCiv

GGG Ping.


2 posted on 07/04/2007 1:08:34 PM PDT by blam (Secure the border and enforce the law)
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To: blam
Another article...we can't post from this site so I will link it here:

DNA Testing To Uncover Czech Noble Mysteries

3 posted on 07/04/2007 1:17:48 PM PDT by blam (Secure the border and enforce the law)
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To: blam
These findings belong to the Moche civilization, which ruled the northern coast of Peru from the time of Christ to 800 AD, centuries prior to the Incas.
The Moche civilization, its cruise ships, hotel chains, and resort communities, all disappear at the same time that the Arab conquest begins. Coincidence? You decide.
4 posted on 07/04/2007 1:24:16 PM PDT by Asclepius
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To: Asclepius
HISTORY OF ISLAM IN PERU
5 posted on 07/04/2007 1:38:38 PM PDT by blam (Secure the border and enforce the law)
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To: blam

Mi*rda!


6 posted on 07/04/2007 1:40:11 PM PDT by sheik yerbouty ( Make America and the world a jihad free zone!)
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To: blam
Was there a mummy-ette or two in there that would be of interest to Bill Clinton?

Leni

7 posted on 07/04/2007 1:45:11 PM PDT by MinuteGal (Three Cheers for the FRed, White and Blue !)
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To: MinuteGal
"Was there a mummy-ette or two in there that would be of interest to Bill Clinton?"

No. You're thinking of Juanita, 'The Ice Maiden.'

Ice Maiden - "Juanita" of Peru

Also known as "Juanita", the Inca Ice Maiden was discovered on Mount Ampato, near Arequipa, Peru by Johann Reinhard in 1995. She was sacrificed sometime around the ages of 12-14 and lived about 500 years ago. Her body lay frozen at the mountaintop until a nearby volcanic eruption melted Mount Ampato's ice cap. Mitosearch: H35HN

Name Haplo mtDNA Sequence Ice Maiden A 16111T, 16223T, 16290T, 16319A

Famous DNA

8 posted on 07/04/2007 1:51:45 PM PDT by blam (Secure the border and enforce the law)
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To: blam
"This is the tomb of a person we hadn't found, now we have the Mochica elite complete."

Last of the Mochicans?

9 posted on 07/04/2007 1:52:56 PM PDT by mikrofon (Peru-sing the thread...)
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To: blam
from the time of Christ to 800 AD

This is nearly current events. The Chinese hadn't arrived yet, and the Hebrews were long gone.

10 posted on 07/04/2007 1:56:29 PM PDT by RightWhale (It's Brecht's donkey, not mine)
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"The Chinese hadn't arrived yet, and the Hebrews were long gone."

Ah. The Chinese arrived in Mexico at the end of the Shang Dynasty, 1100-1200BC.

11 posted on 07/04/2007 2:10:36 PM PDT by blam (Secure the border and enforce the law)
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To: Asclepius

But still, an entire civilization based on expensive cups of coffee seems immoderate.


12 posted on 07/04/2007 2:15:12 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (Time heals all wounds, particularly when they're not yours. Profile updated July 3, 2007.)
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To: blam; FairOpinion; StayAt HomeMother; Ernest_at_the_Beach; 1ofmanyfree; 24Karet; 3AngelaD; 49th; ...
Thanks Blam! Glad you got this one, I spent an hour or so accumulating stories directly or indirectly linked over at Archaeologica and had only posted a few.

Happy 4th of July, all!

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13 posted on 07/04/2007 2:17:10 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (Time heals all wounds, particularly when they're not yours. Profile updated July 4, 2007.)
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To: blam

In 1959 outside the city of Puebla, about 75 miles south of Mexico City, Juan Armenta Camacho stunned the world with his discovery of a mineralized elephant pelvis with engravings of elephants, big cats, and other extinct animals.

The engravings had been made when the bone was still fresh, still “green.” Whoever made these engravings actually saw those animals, and probably even ate and prayed to them. The most amazing critter of them all was smack dab in the middle of the thing. A four-tusked gomphothere, an ancestor of the mastodon, and extinct in the U.S. for over a million years.

The real problem was that the bones were mineralized. C14 dating was useless. For six years, nobody knew how old these sites were.

Then geological science entered the fray. In 1968, a USGS geologist suggested using his new Uranium Series technique to date the bone, and that’s when everything fell apart.

The bone dates from the Tetela sites were 250,000 years old! And so opened up one of the craziest archaeological wormholes in history. That’s a quarter million years old! Modern man didn’t live back then, and all the artifacts from Valsequillo were fancy spearheads and blades - things we Mods didn’t know how to make until 30-40,000 years ago. And there was art! And Valsequillo was 250,000 years old? That’s Homo erectus Time!! And there’s art?

It not only threatened to trash the American paradigm of prehistory, it would also trash the Old World paradigm for the last phases of human evolution. This was serious. There were modern stone tools in Mexico that were 200,000 years older than the earliest modern tools in Europe and Asia and Africa. It was nuts. It was impossible any way you looked at it.

Geologists kept coming up with similar ages for the site no matter what they threw at it. And no matter what the geological sciences turned up, the archaeological community fought back with a stifling wall of absolute silence and noncomment. They would have none of it. Period. The wormhole became an academic black hole, the region became a forbidden zone, and Valsequillo dropped from the lips of credibility.

In the end the archaeologists won through silence. Irwin-Williams never published an official volume; not even site reports. And the curiousity that raged through the professional community was calmly checked at the door of credibility.


14 posted on 07/04/2007 2:45:54 PM PDT by UglyinLA
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To: blam

They were away for a while. They arrived again about 1300 AD.


15 posted on 07/04/2007 3:45:50 PM PDT by RightWhale (It's Brecht's donkey, not mine)
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To: UglyinLA
Calico: A 200,000-year Old Site In The Americas?
16 posted on 07/04/2007 3:54:54 PM PDT by blam (Secure the border and enforce the law)
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To: UglyinLA

Similar report here, archived:

http://web.archive.org/web/20030508081345/http://www.crystalennium.com/myth/science/man_in_america.htm


17 posted on 07/04/2007 6:17:38 PM PDT by Fred Nerks (FAIR DINKUM!)
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