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Don't Be So Sure There Were No WMD in Iraq
The American Thinker ^ | July 3, 2007 | Rachel Neuwirth

Posted on 07/03/2007 5:39:57 AM PDT by Quilla

 Introduction

The references cited in this article strongly suggest that:

1. WMD did indeed exist inside Iraq before the war.

2. The weapons inspectors were both fooled and bribed to ignore evidence.

3. Massive amounts of WMD were removed to known locations in Syria just prior to the war.

4. Massive numbers of Saddam's audio tapes and paper documents were collected and most remain unavailable and presumably un-translated.

5. U.S. officials refused to investigate a number of likely WMD sites.

6. The U.S. intelligence community, and other branches of this government, are stonewalling the issue.
Readers are urged to review the references and decide for themselves.

Before America went to war to topple Saddam Hussein's regime it was widely believed that he possessed weapons of mass destruction. Today it is widely believed that there were no WMD in Iraq before the war. People of both political parties, the major media, and the intellectual community all appear in strong agreement on that point. Some even charge that the Bush Administration deliberately, and knowingly, misled the nation with false information as a pretext to justify going to war.

The Bush Administration is quietly acknowledging that they made a mistake, albeit not intentional. That admission seems to be the final confirmation that there were no WMD in Iraq. In police work when the accused confesses to making a mistake, it is then assumed that the accusation is true and people consider it to be ‘case closed'.

This widespread belief of no WMD in Iraq is seriously damaging our ability to deal with a growing nuclear threat from Iran. There are those who opposed our toppling mass murderer Saddam Hussein both in 1991 and again in 2003, even after he defied multiple U.N. resolutions and was generally believed to have WMD. Now the ‘peace at any price' crowd is exploiting the widespread belief of ‘no WMD' to undermine our war in Iraq. If we fail in Iraq it greatly weakens our ability to deal with Iran, which will become greatly emboldened and infinitely more dangerous as it eventually goes nuclear.

Opponents of military action to stop Iran claim that the mistake over Iraq means that we cannot trust any claim by the Bush Administration regarding Iran's growing nuclear threat. That logic may be faulty but it will further turn opinion against dealing with Iran, especially with those who are now sour on our war in Iraq - and that is currently a majority of Americans. The opponents of military action persistently argue for more ‘negotiations' as the only way to avoid a nuclear Iran even while Iran is clearly stalling for sufficient time to acquire the bomb.

It is therefore essential that the widespread belief of ‘no WMD in Iraq' be double-checked for accuracy. But how can average citizens, and other non-experts, really know the truth? Unfortunately, too many people refuse to reconsider an issue once their minds are made up. Reconsideration is essential and there is a way to deal with this question, at least indirectly. That way is to list critical unanswered questions and then demand that the proponents of ‘no WMD in Iraq' come up with credible answers. Those who adamantly insist that there were no WMD have a duty to answer the following questions or else admit their assertions remain unproven and conceivably wrong.

Obvious Question

Bill Clinton, John Kerry, and other Democrats, all saw the same intelligence back when Clinton was President and George Tenet headed the CIA. They all claimed Iraq had WMD which threatened America. If there really were no WMD, why are they not held equally accountable for misleading the American people? Shouldn't they be required to reveal the basis for their assertions? George Bush retained Clinton's CIA chief who reportedly assured Bush that it was a "slam dunk" that Saddam Hussein had WMD. Other intelligence services including those of NATO and Israel also believed there were WMD. Why don't the critics attempt to discover the evidence for those conclusions?

What was Saddam Hussein hiding with his elaborate schemes to frustrate the U.N. arms inspectors? Why would Saddam needlessly provoke the U.N. and the U.S. into going to war against him if he had nothing to hide? Why haven't the critics answered this question?

Shortly before the war, it was reported that U.S. satellites spotted truck convoys moving from Iraq to Syria at night. One possible explanation is that Saddam had WMD and removed them before the war. Various reports claim that the Russians helped move convoys and planeloads of materials from Iraq into Syria to at least three heavily guarded locations, identified, at least two years ago, by Debka.com and other news sources.

Inexplicably, there has been no effort to discover what was moved. If WMD were indeed removed in this manner, shouldn't we know it? If it turns out that WMD were removed then the war in Iraq becomes justified and the focus should then shift to Syria. If Saddam Hussein was not allowed to have WMD, why then is Syria, Iran's new ally, allowed to have possible WMD with no inspection? Is there unfinished business relative to Saddam's WMD? Is Syria now able to threaten Israel and U.S. forces in the region with chemical and biological weapons?

Where is Saddam's bio weapons expert known as Doctor Germ? What was her work? Saddam's chemical weapons expert known as "Chemical Ali" was recently sentenced to death. What was he doing prior to the war in 2003? Two of Saddam's sons-in law defected and testified about Saddam's WMD. They were spirited back by Saddam and then promptly killed. What did they reveal to U.S. authorities?

Libya's Colonel Khaddaffi gave up his WMD to the U.S. What weapons did the U.S. recover and ship back to America and who was working on these programs? Did Saddam Hussein sponsor the Libyan WMD program?

Early Reports

Seven months after the war began, an extensive report was published presenting a wealth of information on Iraqi WMD and containing 76 open source citations. It described how and what was hidden and how much of it was moved to Syria and Lebanon. It is ‘a must read'. The following paragraph is excerpted from that report.

"Now, it would be common to ask for the reason the Bush Administration has not revealed that WMDs are in Syria and/or Lebanon. According to Israeli intelligence sources, it is likely because exposure of that would lead to a domino effect where evidence would leak out that Iraq's programs had roles played by Egypt, Syria, Libya and Saudi Arabia. [plus the French, Germans and Russians] Such leaks will enflame the region and especially Iraq, and make things much harder, resulting in a more bloody and costly war and diminishing likelihood that other countries would send forces in.[71] Additionally, people would be skeptic, saying it was a lie so that the war-mongering neo-cons were trying to justify a new conquest. The other side would put enormous pressure to bring the war to Syria-a war we are not yet ready to fight."
Iraqi General Georges Sada

In another intelligence revelation, ex Iraqi General Georges Sada recently published his book, Saddam's Secrets: How an Iraqi General Defied & Survived Saddam Hussein. In it he explains how, just prior to the war, Saddam moved his WMD to Syria, with Russian help. Go to www.amazon.com and search for author Georges Sada. Click on picture of book, "Saddam's Secrets". Scroll down to read reviews.

Reviews from Publishers Weekly:

Reviewer 1: In General Sada's unique position, he was able to observe some of the worst of Saddam's behavior and trickery and confirms in this book not only the existence of weapons of mass destruction (WMD), but also the extraordinary lengths that Saddam went to hide these weapons....

Reviewer 2: The author tells how Saddam managed to trick the world into believing he did not have weapons of mass destruction. He goes into detail how Saddam managed to hide all evidence of WMD's and how he managed to move all of them out of Iraq under the noses of the United Nations weapons inspectors. ....

Reviewer 3: Of particular note are tapes of more than 3,000 hours of Saddam Hussein meeting with his war cabinet and millions of pages of documents that contain vital information about Saddam's WMD program and plans for transporting the WMDs out of the country in order to dupe the weapons inspectors.... American and world citizens must demand that these tapes and documents be immediately released, translated, and analyzed in their entirety.
Intelligence Summit Meeting

Hundreds of security experts of diverse backgrounds convened on February 17, 2006 to evaluate Iraqi WMD. The organizers announced that translations of 12 hours of tapes of Saddam Hussein's cabinet meetings would be revealed at the meeting. In it Saddam would be heard talking about Iraq's WMD, its nuclear programs and how he fooled UN inspectors. Ten days before the meeting attendees received messages from inside the administration pressuring them not to attend. "However, these new tapes would have forced the intelligence community to admit that they misled President George W. Bush to state that Iraq had no WMD. Such admission, apparently, was something the intelligence community wanted to avoid by attempting to discredit this conference."

Captured Tapes and Documents

"Who'll Let the Docs Out? Bush wants to release the Saddam files but his [national] intelligence chief [John Negroponte] stalls. By Stephen F. Hayes" 03/20/2006, Volume 011, Issue 25 of the WeeklyStandard.com

Excerpts:

"On February 16, President George W. Bush assembled a small group of congressional Republicans for a briefing on Iraq." Representative Mike Pence said to President Bush, "There are 3,000 hours of Saddam tapes and millions of pages of other documents that we captured after the war. When will the American public get to see this information?"

"Bush replied that he wanted the documents released. He turned to [National Security Advisor Stephen] Hadley and asked for an update. Hadley explained that John Negroponte, Bush's Director of National Intelligence, "owns the documents" and that DNI lawyers were deciding how they might be handled.
.......
"Bush told Hadley to expedite the release of the Iraq documents. "This stuff ought to be out. Put this stuff out." The president would reiterate this point before the meeting adjourned. .....
......

"Negroponte never got the message. Or he is choosing to ignore it. He has done nothing to expedite the exploitation of the documents. And he continues to block the growing congressional effort, led by [Rep. Pete] Hoekstra, [the Michigan Republican who chairs the House Intelligence Committee] to have the documents released.
‘I found Saddam's WMD bunkers'

Posted By Melanie Phillips On April 19, 2007 @ 9:26 am In Daily Mail |

A devastating expose of criminal incompetence and cover-up by the U.S. government. The first two paragraphs follow.

"It's a fair bet that you have never heard of a guy called Dave Gaubatz. It's also a fair bet that you think the hunt for weapons of mass destruction in Iraq has found absolutely nothing, nada, zilch; and that therefore there never were any WMD programmers in Saddam's Iraq to justify the war ostensibly waged to protect the world from Saddam's use of nuclear, biological or chemical weapons."

"Dave Gaubatz, however, says you could not be more wrong. Saddam's WMD did exist. He should know because he found the sites where he is certain they were stored. And the reason you don't know about this is that the American administration failed to act on his information, ‘lost' his classified reports and is now doing everything it can to prevent disclosure of the terrible fact that, through its own incompetence, it allowed Saddam's WMD to end up in the hands of the very terrorist states against whom it is so controversially at war."
Media Spin

Another problem with objectively appraising the danger of WMD is exemplified in a recent article  that originally appeared in the Los Angeles Times. The headline reads: "Scientist profits on fears of WMD. - Germ-weapons expert wins grants, federal contracts through his warnings of mass-casualty biological attack." Notice how the reader is immediately primed to be suspicious by the use of emotionally charged words such as "...profits on fears..."

The first paragraph reads,
"After helping to lead the Soviet Union's germ-weapons program, Ken Alibek defected to the United States and began warning about the threat of a mass-casualty biological attack. Alibek also has sought to profit from the fear of such weapons of mass destruction, landing federal contracts or grants totaling about $28 million."
The first sentence above acknowledges that Ken Alibeck had good reason to know about the Soviet Union's germ-weapons program and hence he has credibility. But then, as if to immediately undermine his credibility, there follows the insinuation that, ..." Alibek also has sought to profit from the fear ..." This implies a selfish, if not a sinister, motivation. And in support of this insinuation we are told that his company received government contracts or grants, as if that alone was evidence of wrongdoing.

If the LA Times has any proof of wrongdoing by Alibeck let them produce the evidence. Instead, this news implies an accusation without actually making a charge that could expose them to be prosecuted for libel. Honest reporting would require a clear separation between presenting hard facts and offering editorial opinion. Their blatant failure to observe journalistic ethics raises the question of an agenda on the part of the LA Times.

Too may people are imposing their biases and opinions on the WMD issue which makes it much harder to get the full truth and to defend against a future attack.


TOPICS: Editorial; Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: insurgents; iraq; saddam; syria; terrorism; terrorists; wmd; wot
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To: Bluebird Singing

“3. Massive amounts of WMD were removed to known locations in Syria just prior to the war.

Does anyone remember seeing the satellite footage of the caravans of Iraqi military vehicles heading to Syria which was shown in the weeks before we went to war in Iraq? The muteness of the Bush administration from the time this criticism started is frustrating.”

OK. Showtime or tinfoil hat time.

Democrats scream for four years(1998-2002) that Iraq has WMD
Colin Powell showed the WMD footage to the UN and the trucks and sites.
Trucks leave Iraq by the hundreds leading up to the war
We have all the trucks on Satellite and intelligence has trucks monitored.
The trucks all mysteriously disappear
US inveades Iraq.
Democrats scream no WMD exists.
Bush administration doesn’t argue. Why?

What happened?

If it was known that WMD existed, then terrorists would only have to say they had them and were planning attacks. This would send the world into a panic. Global markets would come crashing down, oil prices would skyrocket, people would basically go nuts.

In addition, the Democrats and the UN would blame the Bush administration for a total failure to secure Saddams WMD and putting the world in jeapordy.

By secretly destroying the WMD then saying there was none, it was the lesser of two evils for the Bush administration as well as for the world.

Call it taking one for the team.


101 posted on 07/03/2007 1:57:11 PM PDT by EQAndyBuzz (THE US SENATE IS THE MOST CORRUPT BODY POLITIC SINCE THE ROMAN EMPIRE.)
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To: MacDorcha
You assert you have no faith in another’s first-hand accounts. Fine. Guess that pretty much excludes the Bible from you “must-read” list.

Ah but that's the inspired Word of God isn't it? A little bit different.

You know what? Go to Hell! You can’t even take a fellow man’s word? Fine!

Well that's not nice is it? I've done nothing but banter, perhaps with a few smart remarks thrown in. Nothing out of the ordinary. But nothing to deserve that. Nowhere have I engaged in personal attacks or lost my temper. I have taken the word of some that have been there and then documentation of others to the contrary of your opinion.

If you think the WMDs are there then provide proof. But to hide behind cryptic 'I can't tell you because it's not my role but if I could boy howdy you'd be amazed' and then expect me to believe it is asking a bit much don't you think?

102 posted on 07/03/2007 1:57:43 PM PDT by billbears (Those who do not remember the past are condemned to repeat it. --Santayana)
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To: Bluebird Singing
The muteness of the Bush administration from the time this criticism started is frustrating.

Sadly muteness and the lack of reasoned rebuttal has been a sad trait of this administration.

At times...it seemed there was "no fight in the dog"....

But maybe I'm wrong....

103 posted on 07/03/2007 2:00:06 PM PDT by Osage Orange (Steal from one person, and you're a criminal. Steal from EVERYONE, and you're a Government.)
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To: billbears

I’m not hiding behind anything. I face legal reprecussions if I step out of line. You, do not.

And I believe you called me a “nut” and stated that I’m ignorant and buy into whacko-theories.

That coupld with your repeated insults dismissing of my statements earned every heart-felt urge to curse you into the place where reason does not exist!

And your statement about it being “inspired by God’s Word” better keep in mind- “Pearl Harbor” (the movie) was inspired by real events!


104 posted on 07/03/2007 2:06:56 PM PDT by MacDorcha (study links agenda-driven morons and junk science...)
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To: MacDorcha
And I believe you called me a “nut” and stated that I’m ignorant and buy into whacko-theories.

I just looked over the posts I made on this thread. At no point did I 'call you a nut', state your ignorance or that you bought into whacko-theories. Now I may have stated that some that believe in WMDs do so as ardently as those that believe in UFOs but I did not pick you out in particular did I?

That coupld with your repeated insults dismissing of my statements earned every heart-felt urge to curse you into the place where reason does not exist!

Looking over my statements they were meant in jest. Considering the number of times the existence of WMDs were really there keeps popping up from 'those in the know' I tire of it. I think there was a group that really did believe they existed at the level claimed by the administration. I also think there is a group of adults that still believe in Santa Claus. Doesn't make him any more real though does it?

And your statement about it being “inspired by God’s Word” better keep in mind- “Pearl Harbor” (the movie) was inspired by real events!

Well that and FDR's intervention into the Asian theater in the 1930s over something that was none of our business. No wait that's the actual event, not the movie. The movie hardly touched on it. Dern, over 70 years and we still haven't learned.

105 posted on 07/03/2007 3:37:50 PM PDT by billbears (Those who do not remember the past are condemned to repeat it. --Santayana)
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To: Quilla

bookmark


106 posted on 07/03/2007 3:38:52 PM PDT by GiovannaNicoletta
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To: Quilla
The Bush administration is saying there were no WMDs so that the leftist press, which always wants to contradict him, will dig around to prove there were weapons.

Then the Leftists can say Bush lied two times, once when he said there were weapons and once when he said there were no weapons.

107 posted on 07/03/2007 4:12:25 PM PDT by syriacus (If the US troops had remained in S. Korea in 1949, there would have been no Korean War (1950-53).)
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To: billbears

“But Mac and his flying car that he got from the aliens are going to prove me wrong it seems. “

Seems to me you DID in fact pick me out.

Now that I know you cant even bother to scroll a few posts back, I now know why I’m not getting through to you-

You have absolutely nothing but pre-concieved notions to believe in.

Good luck with that, this conversation is over.


108 posted on 07/03/2007 4:25:31 PM PDT by MacDorcha (study links agenda-driven morons and junk science...)
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To: Quilla

WMD ping.


109 posted on 07/03/2007 4:29:09 PM PDT by Former Proud Canadian (How do I change my screen name after Harper's election?)
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To: MacDorcha
“But Mac and his flying car that he got from the aliens are going to prove me wrong it seems. “

Ah but I didn't call you crazy did I? Tongue in cheek. A j..o..k..e.

Put some ice on it and keep waiting for the news to cover your story.

Good day.

110 posted on 07/03/2007 4:32:48 PM PDT by billbears (Those who do not remember the past are condemned to repeat it. --Santayana)
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To: Quilla

“Bush lied” bump


111 posted on 07/03/2007 5:06:27 PM PDT by Dajjal
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To: From One - Many

Excellent posting bud.


112 posted on 07/03/2007 5:22:01 PM PDT by ikez78 (http://www.regimeofterror.com)
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To: Quilla

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/848341/posts

Some more here.


113 posted on 07/03/2007 5:24:13 PM PDT by Jet Jaguar
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To: billbears
I guess that the Iraqi Kurds were just faking that nerve gas thing; same as them pesky Joos with the holocaust I ‘spose.

I guess that I never seen satellite pictures of scud warheads being filled with an agent. Oh wait that was pretty scented flower oil to be sprayed on happy Kuwaiti children.

Give it a rest huh? The rest is the belief that something tangible that did exist suddenly no longer exists. That’s absurd.

114 posted on 07/03/2007 5:35:08 PM PDT by samm1148 (Pennsylvania-They haven't taxed air--yet)
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To: EQAndyBuzz
Does anyone remember seeing the satellite footage of the caravans of Iraqi military vehicles heading to Syria which was shown in the weeks before we went to war in Iraq

In my opinion these caravans did not enter Syria although there were heading West toward Syria, they were heading to some specific locations in the Western Desert also know as the Anbar province. I think these caravans were carrying the Precursors (basic materials) and other equipments required to make Chemical Weapons and they were buried deep in the Anbar province.

115 posted on 07/03/2007 6:03:50 PM PDT by jveritas (Support the Commander in Chief in Times of War.)
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To: billbears

Have you seen this GIS research?

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1536665/posts

More at posts 80-85;

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1323498/posts?page=85#80


116 posted on 07/03/2007 6:37:52 PM PDT by dynoman (Objectivity is the essence of intelligence. - Marylin vos Savant)
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To: samm1148
I guess that the Iraqi Kurds were just faking that nerve gas thing, same as them pesky Joos with the holocaust I ‘spose.

I said neither (if you'll note in my previous posts) but as has become common practice of late, much easier to toss slurs eh? So tell us samm when did you stop beating your wife?

I guess that I never seen satellite pictures of scud warheads being filled with an agent. Oh wait that was pretty scented flower oil to be sprayed on happy Kuwaiti children.

You'll provide me the exact document that Kuwait is a member state of our union will you? How about Nigeria? Darfur, Sudan? Somalia? What happens between two other nations frankly is not of my concern as neither represent a threat to our nation.

The rest is the belief that something tangible that did exist suddenly no longer exists. That’s absurd.

Yes because once something exists by definition it cannot be destroyed until we say it is destroyed. Talk about absurd

117 posted on 07/03/2007 6:41:10 PM PDT by billbears (Those who do not remember the past are condemned to repeat it. --Santayana)
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To: Quilla

This was a very good article. My husband was in Iraq and served as a civilian convoy commander as a mail hauler out of BIAP, Bahgdad International Airport. He was in Bahdad for 15 months. He served in Afghanistan, Iraq and Kuwait for a total of two and a half years.
He traveled all over Iraq and has knowledge of these WMDs.
Why our President is denying this is a mystery. What is his purpose?
It sure leaves us, his supporters out on a limb.


118 posted on 07/03/2007 6:58:03 PM PDT by Betsy Reed
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To: From One - Many

Do you know something the rest of us don’t or just something the NY Times doesn’t report?


119 posted on 07/03/2007 9:36:43 PM PDT by ikez78 (http://www.regimeofterror.com)
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To: ViLaLuz

good point. He kinda got the hint over and over in the “rush” to war


120 posted on 07/03/2007 9:59:11 PM PDT by ikez78 (http://www.regimeofterror.com)
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