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Buying Into The Gun Culture (Kansas Journalist Goes RTC Alert)
LJ World.com ^ | 07/01/2007 | Chad Lawhorn

Posted on 07/03/2007 3:11:51 AM PDT by goldstategop

t is just a simple click, but it gets my mind racing.

That’s the sound that a Colt .380 pocket pistol makes when it is being cocked. I know that’s the sound it makes, but it is still an attention-getter when you hear it in person.

It isn’t the only thing that gets my attention this late June morning. More so is the guy behind the pawn shop counter explaining to me how I could feel comfortable sticking this cocked pistol down the front of my pants.

Welcome to the world of concealed carry.

Yes, I’m in the gun-buying market. Now that Kansas is on the growing list of states allowing a person to get a permit to carry a concealed weapon, it makes sense to thoroughly explain the process of getting a concealed carry permit.

So, here I am. The best way to explain is first to do. Periodically this summer, I’ll be writing these first-person accounts as I receive gun training, fill out the necessary paperwork and, ultimately, carry a concealed weapon around for a few days.

•••

I haven’t told this guy on the other side of the pawn shop counter that I’m a reporter. I just want to hear how he would talk to me, the real me. Believe it or not, people sometimes get a little reserved around reporters.

I’m in an area pawn shop (there are only two in Lawrence, but if you drive to Topeka or Kansas City there are plenty) because I figure that’s the place to find an affordable gun. Affordability is in the eye of the beholder. The seller prices this .380-caliber weapon at $575.

“Chances are, you’ll never need to pull it in your life,” he says. “But if you do, you need it to be a reliable weapon.”

That’s what this is, he says. He tells me it is a very sought-after weapon for concealed carry. The reason: It is small.

He drops it into the front pocket of his baggy shorts to show me that no one would ever know. Some guys carry it that way, but without a pocket holster it kind of bounces around in there. Plus, you don’t want to sit down in a chair, lean back and have your pistol fall on the floor. That’s not the best of icebreakers.

He says for people who regularly wear a jacket or blazer, concealing a weapon is a piece of cake. A small holster that clips on the side of your belt or fits in the small of your back will do the trick.

But I’m just wearing a T-shirt and blue jeans today. What about that? The man says a lot of guys do wear them down the front of their pants inside a special holster called a crotch holster. He laughs a little as he says this. I laugh more nervously.

He tells me this is a good gun for it, though. He tells me it is safe with this gun to “carry one in the chamber.” Just cock it and put it on safety. That way, it just requires a quick flick of the safety and a pull of the trigger. A gun for a man with no time to waste.

That’s about it on that gun. As an afterthought, he tells me I would want to load this one with hollow-point ammunition — a type of ammunition designed to expand once it hits a target rather than travel straight through it. It reduces the risk of hitting something you didn’t intend to.

It drives home the point of what this is all about.

•••

I go to a few more places. I ask what I really should be looking for in a gun for concealed carry. One guy tells me definitely a semiautomatic — a type of gun that once cocked allows you to fire all the shots in your magazine simply by repeatedly pulling the trigger.

“Bottom line, if you ever get in a situation, the idea is to fire as many shots as you can,” the salesman says.

Others tell me that it is just whatever I’m comfortable with. Size seems to be the biggest factor in determining whether a gun is a good fit for concealed carry.

Ultimately, I decide to buy local. After all, I’ve heard City Hall needs sales tax dollars. There are not a lot of places to buy a handgun in Lawrence. Three that I found were Jayhawk Pawn and Jewelry, 1804 W. Sixth St.; Lawrence Pawn and Jewelry, 944 E. 23rd St.; and Hacks Outfitters, 941 E. 23rd St.

I end up with a .22-caliber semiautomatic. It is not a Dirty Harry gun by any means. It is about the size of my cell phone, and about twice as heavy. What I can say about this gun is that the price is right. It’s a new gun — not used — and cost me $139.99.

The seller is upfront with me. He says it is a good gun, but basically a hobby gun for people wanting to find out whether the idea of owning a gun is right for them. Someone else describes it as “kind of hit or miss.” That’s a phrase I can’t get out of my head.

I buy it at Jayhawk Pawn and Jewelry. It is a professional process but a quick one. Before I could even look at a gun, I had to show my driver’s license. If you’re not a Kansas resident, you can’t legally buy a gun here.

After I hand over my cash, I get a two-page sheet to fill out for the Federal Bureau of Investigation. It asks for my name, address, Social Security number, the make and model of the gun, and its serial number. The form includes a handful of questions, including whether I have been convicted of a felony, had a restraining order related to domestic violence or have renounced my U.S. citizenship.

And the question that apparently doubles as an audition for America’s Stupidest Criminals: Am I a fugitive of the law?

Apparently, I answer everything correctly. The clerk calls my information into the FBI, and gets the go-ahead to sell me the gun. I entered the store at 1:30 p.m. and have a gun by 1:50 p.m.

I check the form that I filled out to make certain that the serial number on it is the same one on the gun. That number will be attached to my name, so I want to make sure it is right.

I walk out the door with a lot of questions. Among them is the one I came in with: Where am I going to conceal this thing? In my boot? In my pocket? On my back?

I have time to figure this out. I can’t conceal it anywhere until I go through a state-mandated class and fill out the necessary paperwork for a permit.

But my outing has given me one answer. I already can tell you the one place I definitely won’t be concealing it.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Philosophy; US: Kansas
KEYWORDS: banglist; chadlawhorn; concealcarry; kansas; rtc; secondamendment
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Kansas reporter Chad Lawhorn describes how to acquire a gun in Kansas and conceal carry. Good read on being a new gun owner in a RTC state.

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelologus

1 posted on 07/03/2007 3:11:54 AM PDT by goldstategop
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To: goldstategop

“I end up with a .22-caliber semiautomatic. What I can say about this gun is that the price is right. It’s a new gun — not used — and cost me $139.99.”

Sounds like he bought a piece of junk. A new gun for $139.99? He’ll be so disgusted with using it, that it will color his whole attitude towards guns. That is if that’s not what he’s intending anyway. I have to wonder.


2 posted on 07/03/2007 3:20:29 AM PDT by caver (Yes, I did crawl out of a hole in the ground.)
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To: caver

He’s not buying it for the reason you’d buy a gun. He’s a reporter and only bought the gun to go through the process in order to write about it. Buying the el-cheapo gun makes it easier to justify on his expense account. After his series of articles he’ll take it back to the pawn shop and sell it.


3 posted on 07/03/2007 3:33:28 AM PDT by libertylover (Liberals: Trying to convert the U.S. into a country the Founding Father's wouldn't recognize.)
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To: libertylover
First time gun owners buy the cheapest gun ("hobby gun") they can afford to decide if owning a gun is for them. After going to training and getting their CCW license, if they feel comfortable with it by then, odds are good they'll upgrade to a solid quality gun.

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelologus

4 posted on 07/03/2007 3:36:04 AM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: libertylover

Most likely that indeed is what will happen.


5 posted on 07/03/2007 3:37:48 AM PDT by Eye of Unk
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To: Eye of Unk
No crotch holder for him. Some guys don't want it around the family jewels.

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelologus

6 posted on 07/03/2007 3:39:45 AM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: libertylover

He might come around. He can always upgrade. Judging by the price of the Colt, he’s not getting any bargains. For a little more, he could have purchased a KelTec. I carry a Keltec all summer long when in my “shorts and flip flop” mode. For dress up and church, I have my “pimp” gun. A nickle plated, faux pearl gripped, S&W Airweight in .38
Any other time, I’m packin’ a 1911 in .45 acp(Since my wife took my .357 for her own...).


7 posted on 07/03/2007 3:43:39 AM PDT by chadwimc (Proud to be an infidel ! Allah fubar !!!)
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To: goldstategop
a semiautomatic — a type of gun that once cocked allows you to fire all the shots in your magazine simply by repeatedly pulling the trigger.

And then jams half way through the magazine. I've not had the best luck with semi-autos, and I've owned a bunch of them. Only had two that haven't jammed on me (so far), and one of them's nearly new with less than 200 rounds through it.

8 posted on 07/03/2007 3:44:00 AM PDT by Hardastarboard (DemocraticUnderground.com is an internet hate site.)
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I end up with a .22-caliber semiautomatic.

If I actually needed to use a pistol for self defense, I'd want one that has some stopping power. A .45 can stop even someone on PCP who feels lucky.

9 posted on 07/03/2007 3:44:31 AM PDT by Paleo Conservative
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To: libertylover

I guess I’n being suspicious, but I wonder whether the guy already has an agenda about guns? He has this non-chalant type attitude for someone that will be carrying a gun. Maybe it is all about his article.

Any gun I’ve seen for $139.99 is an absolute piece of crap. They had some at the last gun show that looked like someone made them in their garage with a hammer and file.


10 posted on 07/03/2007 3:48:12 AM PDT by caver (Yes, I did crawl out of a hole in the ground.)
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“If I actually needed to use a pistol for self defense, I’d want one that has some stopping power.”

The pawn shop guy sure didn’t tell him that.


11 posted on 07/03/2007 3:49:50 AM PDT by caver (Yes, I did crawl out of a hole in the ground.)
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To: caver
Most journalists lap up whatever the Brady Bunch feeds them about guns. Its the rare journalist who is willing to see what its like to be on the other side. To own a gun and live with it. That means abandoning Wild West stereotypes about gun owners and looking at the facts.

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelologus

12 posted on 07/03/2007 3:51:00 AM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: caver
I end up with a .22-caliber semiautomatic. It is not a Dirty Harry gun by any means. It is about the size of my cell phone, and about twice as heavy. What I can say about this gun is that the price is right. It’s a new gun — not used — and cost me $139.99.

This reporter isn't to bright

13 posted on 07/03/2007 3:59:10 AM PDT by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: goldstategop
Best pocket pistol around (IMO)
14 posted on 07/03/2007 4:12:39 AM PDT by Beckwith (dhimmicrats and the liberal media have chosen sides -- Islamofascism)
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To: goldstategop

Sounds like the pawn shop owner is trying to sell the buyer on a Colt Mustang, and telling him to carry it with a round in the chamber, cocked and locked (condition one), shoved down his pants. IMO, this doesn’t seem like a particularly good idea for a beginner; I certainly wouldn’t do it myself, and I’ve been shooting for more than forty years.


15 posted on 07/03/2007 4:14:03 AM PDT by Jack Hammer
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Some guys don't want it around the family jewels.

He's a reporter. Therefore he's got nothin' to worry about!!!

16 posted on 07/03/2007 4:14:27 AM PDT by ExSoldier (Democracy is 2 wolves and a lamb voting on dinner. Liberty is a well armed lamb contesting the vote.)
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The clerk calls my information into the FBI, and gets the go-ahead to sell me the gun. I entered the store at 1:30 p.m. and have a gun by 1:50 p.m.

Does Kansas not have three day wait or is this guy blowing smoke?

17 posted on 07/03/2007 4:18:51 AM PDT by Hazcat (We won an immigration BATTLE, the WAR is not over. Be ever vigilant.)
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To: Beckwith

Hey Beck,

I bought one of those two weeks ago and I love it.

I have fired over 200 rounds out of it with four different types of ammo and not one problem.

I recommend the Winchester Silver Tip ammo. Good penetration and very good expansion. I tested some along with CoreBon, Magtech and Blaser on some phone books and the Silver tips were FAR superior.


18 posted on 07/03/2007 4:22:30 AM PDT by Hazcat (We won an immigration BATTLE, the WAR is not over. Be ever vigilant.)
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To: caver

CZ-52s aren’t crap, though they are inexpensive.

Probably the only gun at that price which isn’t..

Anyway the guy should consider what his life is worth
and purchase accordingly.


19 posted on 07/03/2007 4:24:32 AM PDT by rahbert
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“CZ-52s aren’t crap, though they are inexpensive.”

Agreed on the CZ-52.

I was thinking along the lines of one of those Jiminez guns, if I spelled it right. I seen those at a gun show. They were the absolute worst piece of junk I ever held in my hand.


20 posted on 07/03/2007 4:33:27 AM PDT by caver (Yes, I did crawl out of a hole in the ground.)
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