Denial In Britain (Robert Spencer on the UK's Failure To Acknowledge Muslim Roots Of Jihad Alert)

Frontpagemag.com ^ | 07/03/2007 | Robert Spencer

[goldstategop]

In the wake of the two bomb-rigged cars discovered in London and the flaming jeep that crashed into a Glasgow airport terminal, the terror threat level in Britain has been raised to critical. British authorities are continuing to search for suspects, and haven’t ruled out the possibility that more catastrophic attacks are being planned, and could be imminent. Authorities have noted similarities between these events and past jihad terror plots, are investigating a possible link between one of the would-be car bombers and Islamic jihad terrorist Dhiren Barot, who is serving a life sentence for an Al-Qaeda-backed plot to bomb the World Bank, New York Stock Exchange, and headquarters of the International Monetary Fund, among other targets.

As has become the pattern in such cases, authorities brushed aside and declined to consider the implications of evidence that the events in London and Glasgow were motivated by the ideology of Islamic jihad. Daud Abdullah, the Deputy Secretary General of the Muslim Council of Britain (MCB), suggested that the religion of the attackers was incidental to their actions when he said: “Let’s not create a hypothetical problem…it can be the work of Muslims, Christians, Jews or Buddhists.” The new British Prime Minister, Gordon Brown, appeared to agree, saying that new efforts had to be undertaken to win the “hearts and minds” of Muslims. “We have got to separate,” he added, “those great moderate members of our community from a few extremists who wish to practice violence and inflict maximum loss of life in the interests of a perversion of their religion.” The new First Minister of Scotland, Alex Salmond, assured Muslims in Scotland that no community would be “scapegoated” in the wake of the Glasgow Airport attack. “In Scotland,” he maintained, “the Muslim community is part of the fabric of society, and is hugely important for social life, and this community link will remain strong.” London Mayor Ken Livingstone went even farther, asserting: “In this city, Muslims are more likely to be law-abiding than non-Muslims and less likely to support the use of violence to achieve political ends than non-Muslims.”

These words were no doubt reassuring to Mohammad Sarwar, a Glasgow politician and a member of Parliament until he stepped down in late June after receiving death threats from Muslims over his aid with the prosecution of a group of Muslim murderers. Despite this unpleasantly close encounter with Islamic extremism, Sarwar seemed more concerned about actions by non-Muslims against Muslims. Announcing that Muslim leaders in Scotland were coming together at a hastily-convened meeting in Glasgow, he explained: “They’re concerned about a backlash and that’s why the emergency meeting has been called.”

Osama Saeed of the Muslim Association of Britain, meanwhile, expressed exasperation at the fact that non-Muslims expected Muslims to be active in opposing terror activities within the Islamic community: “We are seething with anger about this,” he said – that is, about the idea that jihad plots should be seen as a challenge to the larger Islamic community to do more against terrorism, not about the jihad plots themselves. “As a community,” he said, “not only are we just as likely to be victims as anyone else, but we are also looked to in order to provide direction and in some respects take responsibility for this. We are sick of being defined as a community by terrorism and having to answer for it.”

Saeed’s anger was ironic in light of the haste with which Brown, Livingstone, and Salmond drew distinctions between the Muslim community in Britain and those who were behind the London and Glasgow jihad plots. As the plots continued to be investigated over the weekend, no British officials were saying anything at all about the need for Muslims in Britain to redouble their efforts to teach against the jihad ideology of Islamic supremacism, to formulate new understandings of the Qur’an and Sunnah, rejecting the literal and mainstream legal interpretations of a large number of passages, to renounce any intention to impose Sharia in Britain at any time in the future, and to work much more closely with British authorities in order to root out jihadists from their ranks. In Britain, only the ex-jihadist Hassan Butt, who now calls himself a moderate Muslim, spoke more realistically about what needs to be done: “It isn’t enough for Muslims to say that because they feel at home in Britain they can simply ignore those passages of the Koran which instruct on killing unbelievers. By refusing to challenge centuries-old theological arguments, the tensions between Islamic theology and the modern world grow larger every day.”

The official silence about the Islamic element of the attacks was all the more curious in light of the revelation that British authorities were deeply concerned by the fact that the London and Glasgow plotters had no clear or readily discernable ties to terror groups: they were “off the radar.” One remarked: “If there is no trace then this means the terrorism situation in the UK is much worse than we have believed.” Indeed it is, because no Muslim group in the United Kingdom or elsewhere has drawn a distinction between themselves and the jihadists that is sufficiently sharp to prevent those jihadists from moving freely among the peaceful Muslims. They have not expelled jihadists from mosques, and they have not instituted comprehensive, compulsory programs to teach against the jihad ideology. And since the threat is not being challenged at the ideological level, it is entirely possible for a peaceful Muslim to turn into a jihadist under the noses of authorities -- as Mike Hawash and others have done in the U.S.

The problem is, therefore, much bigger than British authorities think, and much bigger than they are even now willing to admit. Until they are willing to face the fact that attackers such as those we have seen in Britain over the last few days couldn’t just as well have been Buddhists, but rather arise from the Islamic community and base their actions upon Islamic principles, they will not be dealing with the root of this problem realistically, and we are going to see many more attacks. “I believe,” said Butt, “that the issue of terrorism can be easily demystified if Muslims and non-Muslims start openly to discuss the ideas that fuel terrorism.” Do Brown, Livingstone, Salmond and the rest have the courage to do this?

[goldstategop]

Thanks to multiculturalism and political correctness, the UK authorities can't honestly acknowledge jihad has Muslim roots. That the attackers are inspired by Islamic doctrines of holy war and world conquest. If the UK's leaders can't identify and denounce this openly, when? Not all Muslims are peaceful and law-abiding and it makes no sense to fail to identify those who contravene the rules of British society as adherents of Islamic fascism.

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelologus

[BykrBayb]

So, it was the Amish?

[AmericanInTokyo]

This tiptoeing around the situation, all in the name of “trying not to hurt someone’s feelings” is going to get us ALL BLOWN UP!

[Nathan Zachary]

'British authorities are continuing to search for suspects, and haven’t ruled out the possibility that more catastrophic attacks are being planned, and could be imminent.'

You'd think they would grab a brain and look inside mosks, arrest the guy in the black robes and rag top, then sweat the list of his "students" (mosk members) out of him. Or just wait till friday evening and load them all up after lessons.

[sport]

So, it was the Amish?

2 posted on 07/03/2007 1:35:10 AM PDT by BykrBayb

Either them or the Southern Baptists.

We all know, or should by now, that islam is the religion of peace. Or is it piece[s]?

[BykrBayb]

It should be pieces. Then, there would be peace. ; )

[ZULU]

“..it can be the work of Muslims, Christians, Jews or Buddhists.”

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The only people who have signature fingerprints on stunts like this stick their butts into the air with their faces towards Mecca and worship an pedophile bandit’s god.

[LegendHasIt]

How Dare You say anything like this, Robert Spenser, you evil man.

There is no connection between terrorism and muslims.

Well, OK, these and almost all the other terrorism events in the last decade were perpetrated by muslims, but that’s just coincidence; They were merely poverty stricken disaffected youth who happened to be muslim, driven by desperation to commit bad acts so they could buy food for their babies.

What’s that you say; Bin Ladin was a hundred millionaire from a family worth billions? Well, he is just the exception that proves the rule.

What’s that you say; Most of them were single men without children or other dependents? Well, they were still starving and society refused to allow them to assimilate.

What’s that you say; Many of the perpetrators of this most recent event were well paid doctors working for the British government? Well, they practice a perverted version of the Religion of Peace; They aren’t REAL muslims; REAL muslims don’t believe in violence and love everyone.

What’s that you say: The Quran, their holy book, says in many places, straight out, that they MUST kill or convert anyone that doesn’t believe exactly as they do? Well, maybe there is some remote connection between terrorism and muslims, but you are a racist, a zenophobe and no gentleman for mentioning it Robert Spencer, and you are going to make them mad and FORCE them to commit more terrorist acts due to your cultural insensitivity.

And anyway, Britain DESERVES to be punished for its role in the genocide of peaceful musims where were merely minding their own business during the Crusades.
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(All of the above is sarcasm, if you had any question. Civilized people the world over owe a debt of gratitude to Mr. Spencer for his efforts to educate the ignorant and those in denial. HE should be Knighted, right along with Rushdie.)

[DTA]

>>>>>>>Thanks to multiculturalism and political correctness, the UK authorities can't honestly acknowledge jihad has Muslim roots. <<<<<<

No. British authorities have made a pact with Islamists, they promissed to give them free rein in Britain and support outside of Britain, in exchange for Islamists not attacking British interests at home and abroad.

British authorities are up to the neck in support to Islamist terrorists, first in Bosnia, then in Kosovo.

Now, British authorities can not admit that their pact with Islamofascists does not work.

Only the fool does the same over and over again and expects different outcome.

It will be shattering if Islamofascists start speaking up and expose their allies in British government.

[Leftism is Mentally Deranged]

It’s not a religion. It is a way of life and a political movement that does some things resembling religion.

[BuffaloJack]

I’ve read several of Robert Spencer’s books. There isn’t another person alive with his insite on muslims and the problems of how governments deal with them. It’s too bad the decision makers are too worried about being labeled non-PC to deal with Islam effectively.

[britemp]

‘No. British authorities have made a pact with Islamists, they promissed to give them free rein in Britain and support outside of Britain, in exchange for Islamists not attacking British interests at home and abroad.’

Of course we have. That’s why we were first into Iraq and first into Afghanistan. That’s why we knighted Rushdie. That’s why Britain re-elected the govt that took it to war in 2003 and America threw out the govt that took it to war and replaced it with the muzzie loving democrats in both houses, just like Spain did. Stop talking out of your arse and put some effort into getting rid of your democrat masters before they find a way to surrender to the islamofascists once and for all. Either way, England will still be fighting islam as she has done since 1095.

[snugs]

Right on I feel there is as much denial in the US as elsewhere in the world if not more because historically immigrants have integrated in the US more than other countries.

Many Americans IMHO do not want to admit this is no longer true which I can understand no one wants to acknowledge that part of society has or is about to break down in their own country.

Yes we have a problem in Britain but so does America and every other country.

[nativist]

Maybe in some countries, but remember we do not have to rely on gov't to protect us. We don't rely on the cops to protect us, just to clean up the mess. In America we have the 2nd amendment and it would be wise to be vigilant rather that PC.

I had an A/C repairman come fix my A/C last year. He arrived in his own turquoise taxi with tools in the back. He was Iraqi and a nice guy. I left him there and gave him permission to go in and out as he needed because I was going to do some work elsewhere.

I called him and he had returned home and asked me to meet him at me house to finish the job. I did and all went well.

That evening my neighbors daughter asked why the cops were at my house earlier. I was oblivious but apparently a neighbor had seen a middle eastern man arrive in a taxi and mess with my A/C. He also saw him go in and out of my house and called the cops and confronted him. The guy freaked and took off.

Now while I felt sorry for the guy I understood and appreciated my neighbors awareness and vigilance.

He probably knew what a threat I was to Al Quaeda and figured Bin Laden had put a bounty on my head. :)

[nativist]

Come on man, that doesn’t even make sense. Britain is our strongest Ally and that is why they were attacked. It is also in the terrorist playbook to stage an attack right after a new leader is sworn in, plus Rushdie being knighted probably pissed them off more than the exposed ankles of their sister.

[PGalt]

HOORAY Robert Spencer!
HOORAY Robert Spencer!
HOORAY Robert Spencer!

[DTA]

I will not repeat what has been already eloquently said. Melanie Philips: LONDONISTAN

Spend couple of quid and get aqcuainred with the facts.

[DTA]

>>>>>Either way, England will still be fighting islam as she has done since 1095.<<<<<

This is rather striking claim, having in mind chequered historical record.

- Enlgand was nowhere is sight when Ottomans invaded Europe, but was eager to support Ottoman Empire to the bitter end. England and later Great Britain did not lift a finger to help Christians under Ottoman yoke. Actually, did help, but Muslims to murder European Christians with impunity.

-British Raj in India was enforced mainly by Bengali muslim troops, renowned for being ruthless towards Hindi. Hindi still "fondly" remember how British fought Islam. \

-Britain established Saudi Arabia, the ground zero of Islamic radicalism. According to Turkish sourches it was a certain English chap by the name of Hempher who invented this scourge while in service of his employer.

This is how British fight the Islam. To the last drop of European Christian blood.

[Former Proud Canadian]

I fear that the ruling elites in the West, much like Neville Chamberlain in 1938, do not understand the threat we face. There is somewhat more understanding by the ruling classes in the US, Canada, and Australia, but the Europeans, including the Brits, don’t seem to have a clue.

[Aquinasfan]

As has become the pattern in such cases, authorities brushed aside and declined to consider the implications of evidence that the events in London and Glasgow were motivated by the ideology of Islamic jihad.

My sympathy has run out. Useful idiots will get what they deserve.

I was flipping around the dial last weekend and landed on CNN's coverage of the club bombings. The reporter was perplexed as to why medical doctors, who are trained to saving lives, would attempt to slaughter hundreds of innocent people. It was pathetic.