Tahoe agency (TRPA) is focus of fury; Residents say they weren't allowed to clear trees, brush.

Sacramento Bee ^ | June 30 2007 | Mary Lynne Vellinga

[freedomdefender]

This is the problem with freeper-brand conservatism, as I see it. Freepers are obsessed with what's happening in Iraq and the middle east. In my brand of conservatism, I want freedom IN AMERICA! When people are victimized by government agencies like TRPA - and their homes are destroyed as a result - it's hard for me to get worked up about some tin-pot dictators on the other side of the world. TRPA (and agnecies like it) are more of a threat to our freedom than Iran, but all I read about on FR is Iran. And while Bush is spending billions fighting muslamnuts in Iraq, he's doing nothing to free us from tyrannical bureaucrats here at home.

[Spktyr]

Psst - TRPA is a *local* problem, not a national one. Don’t like it? Organize your local conservatives and get rid of it. Other FReepers have used the same techniques, often using FR to gather support, to get rid of problems in their area. Case in point - the Nifong Affair in Durham.

I think it’s less about FR-style conservatism ignoring other issues and more about YOU. You obviously missed most of the local activism posts.

[Atlas Sneezed]

TRPA is property rights tyranny.

[technomage]

Freepers are obsessed with what's happening in Iraq and the middle east. In my brand of conservatism, I want freedom IN AMERICA!

Are you actually reading this board on a regular basis? There are plenty of threads concerning our internal freedoms.

I would say that Free Republic is a perfect example of a multi task site, with articles and discussions on all subjects, including those you mention.

[hedgetrimmer]

I want freedom IN AMERICA!

Worth repeating until the people get it!

It's time to disband all those unconstitutional regional councils and restore constitutional government.

Regional councils brought to American by the internationalists,are used to usurp the authority of citizens and are part of the framework for establishing a UN-style 'civil governance' model that give international institutions power over the citizens of a country.

If you want to see citizenship rendered completely ineffecutal look to see what happened to Britain, after the regional government councils were established there. It was the tool that allowed the EU to be created.

Time to get rid of these groups in America. It won't be an easy task, there are probably millions of them now.

[rellimpank]

—check these—

—http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/search?m=all;o=time;s=Vin%20Suprynowicz

[freedomdefender]

Psst - TRPA is a *local* problem, not a national one.

Wrong. It's a congressionally created agency. And it's symptomatic of a lot of federal and regional bureaucracies nationwide. Our home-grown bureaucrats are a more direct danger to our freedoms than ahmadinnenut in Iran, but all I hear about from conservatives these days is Iran and Iraq.

[bybybill]

These unelected boards and agentcies are never worth a d*7m

[technomage]

These unelected boards and agentcies are never worth a d*7m

Can't argue with you there.

[Eva]

TRPA and similar agencies, mostly termed watershed districts (I guess they have another name for them in states like Arizona) are the main mechanism that the left is using to exert its power over the states. The agencies are virtually shadow governments that are made up of unelected environmental activists. Their main agenda is social engineering and redistribution of wealth. They usually make some kind of fascist arrangement with business and industry that allows business to proceed as usual, as long as the industry contributes to their cause and pays mouth service to their agenda.

[hedgetrimmer]

Order: Halt South Lake Tahoe Airport Tree Cutting

Tahoe land regulators have issued a cease-and-desist order to stop tree cutting at South Lake Tahoe airport, where officials said dozens of trees may have been illegally felled....
...The controversy comes at a time TRPA is focusing increasing attention on illegal tree-cutting around the Tahoe Basin. Last April, the agency fined a north Lake Tahoe man $50,000 for poisoning three trees to improve his view of the lake....
...The controversy comes at a time TRPA is focusing increasing attention on illegal tree-cutting around the Tahoe Basin. Last April, the agency fined a north Lake Tahoe man $50,000 for poisoning three trees to improve his view of the lake.

--look at all the groups that are tying the hands of the citizens--- the do not have dominion over their rightfully owned property.

[traviskicks]

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[ClaireSolt]

I think this story has huge implications. I know that Bush led a Healthy Forests initiative that would have cleaned up forests and reduced the load that makes fires bad, but I think environmentalists have stymied the law in court. Californians think of themselves as the leaders in environmentalism but they have had several fires this year that seem to have been caused by dumb land use policies. This one has the potential to turn into a huge class action lawsuit that would force reexamination of them. We have to fight back knee jerk environmentalism that throws monkey wrenches in everything anyone tries to do. We can start by realizing that these are anticapitalists who don’t give a hoot about nature.

[technomage]

We have to fight back knee jerk environmentalism that throws monkey wrenches in everything anyone tries to do. We can start by realizing that these are anticapitalists who don’t give a hoot about nature.

I agree.

[sgtbono2002]

I have never understood why freedom loving Americans buy property is communities such as these. They are for sheep. Let the sheep live there.

If you want freedom do not buy property where covenants and crap like this are allowed.

[finnsheep]

Even without TRPA here in the Poconos, the potential for a similar event is very, very real. Homes are built right into the pine trees. Pine trees touch the roofs of homes. Mountain laurel will go up like tinder because of all the flammable resins in it. Some big developments have home owners’ associations that forbid removing trees close to homes.

The past couple of years we have had lots of rain, but the decade before that, it was so dry that mature trees died. Plus we have a tremendous amount of standing dead trees killed by the gypsy moth.

[apocalypto]

Also tryrannical judges.

[july4thfreedomfoundation]

Another huge pain in the butt is the California Coastal Commission.

I believe it was created by the voters circa 1972, but I wonder how many voters actually own any property on or near the coast? These non-owners should not be telling the property owners, the ones who are paying the real estate taxes, what to do with THEIR land.

[xzins]

but all I read about on FR is Iran.

Then you better start reading the other 1000's of stories on FR NOT about Iran.

[maryz]

but they have had several fires this year

This year? Hasn't this been going on for years? Maybe the fires aren't as bad every year or the location spares houses, but I know I read a story in the WSJ maybe 5-7 years ago -- it mentioned a man who cleared brush,etc. around his own house -- in violation of the law! -- when he first heard of a nearby fire. His house was spared. Like that guy interviewed on Fox this time -- he did the same thing, saved his house -- and fully expects to be fined.