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PHONE-CALL MUTINY; HOW CITIZENS FELLED THE BORDER BILL (gov't OF, BY and FOR the people prevailed)
NY POST ^ | June 30, 2007 | RICH LOWERY

Posted on 06/30/2007 5:23:48 AM PDT by Liz

BEWARE of an aroused citizenry. It's an admonition that should be ingrained in the brain of any run-of-the-mill politician, let alone someone who has ascended to the United States Senate. But from the Olympian heights of the world's greatest deliberative body, it is often forgotten. So senators got a reminder in the humiliating defeat of a "comprehensive" immigration bill that had the support of the president of the United States, a bipartisan group of senators with the blessing of the leaders of their caucuses and the support of the editorial boards of the country's most important newspapers.

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Extended News; Foreign Affairs; Government; US: Arizona; US: California
KEYWORDS: aliens; bordercrossers; congress; deathofthegop; hyphenates; illegalimmigration; illegals; immigrantlist; immigration; noamnestyforillegals; senateshame; shamnesty; vampirebill; voiceofthepeople; voxpopuli
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To: Liz
In all the back patting and self congratulatory ranting has anyone noticed that this was a completely NEGATIVE victory?

The Right did not win anything. They merely stopped the other side from winning. So despite 5 years of daily non stop ranting about “We got to do something about the border, the illegals are destroying our country”, the Right is back at square one. Meanwhile the illegals continue to poor into the country and nothing is getting done.

The Illegals are the only people who won anything here.

So now want are you going to do Antis?

81 posted on 06/30/2007 6:58:19 AM PDT by MNJohnnie (If you will try being smarter, I will try being nicer.)
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To: sgtbono2002
They would vote to make Monica Lewinski Surgeon General if Bubba asked them too.

ROFL!!.....

Got to wonder what she would be in charge of....under the table issues?

82 posted on 06/30/2007 7:03:14 AM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach (The DemonicRATS believe ....that the best decisions are always made after the fact.)
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To: MNJohnnie

83 posted on 06/30/2007 7:03:46 AM PDT by Earthdweller (All reality is based on faith in something.)
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To: Liz
"Well, boo-----frickin'---hoo. It's about time they felt the wrath of the people...."


84 posted on 06/30/2007 7:06:23 AM PDT by Earthdweller (All reality is based on faith in something.)
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To: TomGuy

The statement,”We have the best government money can buy”, applies here.


85 posted on 06/30/2007 7:06:49 AM PDT by seemoAR (Absolute power corrupts absolutely)
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To: Liz
My e-mail to the white house and various senators: Mr. President, perhaps you and I have one thing in common, our strong feelings about the issue of illegal immigration. It should be obvious to even the most casual observer that you have to do something other than the status quo or the provisions of the senate bill.

Until we have security and some semblance of border control, most Americans will not support any benefits, amnesty, or whatever you want to do to help the illegal immigrant. This is the basic problem with your philosophy and those who supported the legislation. Security first. Then we will listen to other changes.

You need to impress upon us that you care more about us then you do illegal immigrants. And some of us have relatives waiting years to get in and the people you support can walk across tonight. THEY MUST GET IN LINE LIKE EVERYONE ELSE!

Here is my proposal. Feel free to run with it.

1. Do the job you swore to do. Enforce the current laws. Support and reinforce the officers working the border. Support a federal law directing local police and other law enforcement to take action to detain and initiate deportation of those here illegally. Jail employers of illegal immigrants.

2. No benefits for those in the country illegally. Exception, those with true emergency medical conditions will receive treatment while their deportation is initiated.

3. Initiate a constitutional amendment to stop the anchor baby phenomenon.

4. Build the fence.

5. Change the immigration quotas to reflect real needs justified by industry and/or states. Make the justifications public. So the average American knows how many we are allowing in and why. We will support something logical, fair, and needed AFTER our security is taken care of.

86 posted on 06/30/2007 7:09:14 AM PDT by herMANroberts
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To: freeangel; F15Eagle; TommyDale; indylindy
As FReeper F15 Eagle brilliantly posted; "Our best line of defense will be to watch the various alliances and not let them try to subvert the Constitution again........... "

I would go further and say "globaloney is kaput." Legislators, and others at the levers of the US government better perceive issues through the prism of the red, white, and blue.........or else.

This means every candidate for office, at all levels, as well.

87 posted on 06/30/2007 7:10:37 AM PDT by Liz (It is dangerous to be right when the government is wrong. Voltaire)
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To: herMANroberts; All

Here is FReeper herMANroberts’ proposal to prez Bush (what The People want):

1. Do the job you swore to do. Enforce the current laws. Support and reinforce the officers working the border. Support a federal law directing local police and other law enforcement to take action to detain and initiate deportation of those here illegally. Jail employers of illegal immigrants.

2. No benefits for those in the country illegally. Exception, those with true emergency medical conditions will receive treatment while their deportation is initiated.

3. Initiate a constitutional amendment to stop the anchor baby phenomenon.

4. Build the fence.

5. Change the immigration quotas to reflect real needs justified by industry and/or states. Make the justifications public. So the average American knows how many we are allowing in and why. We will support something logical, fair, and needed AFTER our security is taken care of.


88 posted on 06/30/2007 7:15:23 AM PDT by Liz (It is dangerous to be right when the government is wrong. Voltaire)
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To: Leftism is Mentally Deranged
Globaloney is kaput.

Legislators, and others at the levers of the US government better perceive issues through the prism of the red, white, and blue.........or we shall know the reason why.

This means every candidate for office, at all levels, as well.

89 posted on 06/30/2007 7:19:19 AM PDT by Liz (It is dangerous to be right when the government is wrong. Voltaire)
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To: Liz

90 posted on 06/30/2007 7:22:34 AM PDT by SerpentDove (See you at the bill signing. NOT.)
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To: Liz

White heat.


91 posted on 06/30/2007 7:24:23 AM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks (BTUs are my Beat.)
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To: Liz
"BEWARE of an aroused citizenry."

Indeed - I believe that we need to get aroused a bit more often. The amnesty bill didn't get past 'we the people' but plenty of other legislative actions have. I think that everybody ought to take a bit more active role in what's going on in the Senate and the House.

92 posted on 06/30/2007 7:24:51 AM PDT by meyer (It's the entitlements, stupid!)
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To: airborne

I think we need a good house-cleaning in Washington - including RINOs! I, for one, will not forgive and forget!


93 posted on 06/30/2007 7:28:09 AM PDT by The Sons of Liberty (It's as simple as ABC - Anyone But Clinton (that includes Osama Hussein OBama too))
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To: Liz

Get used to it Congress, the American people are on a roll!
We have seen what we can accomplish. People who never before got involved picked up a phone and called and now know the people are the government and we will not be silenced.


94 posted on 06/30/2007 7:28:54 AM PDT by TornadoAlley3
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To: SerpentDove

95 posted on 06/30/2007 7:30:45 AM PDT by Earthdweller (All reality is based on faith in something.)
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To: Liz

AMEN TIMES TEN!!!


96 posted on 06/30/2007 7:35:08 AM PDT by Travis McGee (--- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com ---)
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To: Liz

I would add

(d) Senators Lott and Voinovitch referring to their constituents calling their offices as “intimidation.”


97 posted on 06/30/2007 7:36:40 AM PDT by LadyNavyVet
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To: Liz
We don't need a constitutional amendment to deal with the "anchor baby" problem. The 14th Amendment refers to people who are "subject to the jurisdiction" of the United States. Congress had=s provided by statute that foreign embassies are not American soil. So a child born there is not an American. There are similar examples of legislative definitions such as the "inland ports," as far inland as West Virginia.

In short, that is a problem which Congress can resolve immediately by legislation. It doesn't lack the power to do that, only the will.

Congressman Billybob

Latest article, "Duke is Not Off the Hook"

98 posted on 06/30/2007 7:38:39 AM PDT by Congressman Billybob (Please promote Dr. Sowell's words, at Duke.)
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To: Liz
Americans have had it with these "hyphenated-supremacists" who get more rights than taxpayers. We are being suckered into footing the bills for these hyphenated jerks with no self-esteem. It's high time we send these hyphenated parasites back where they came from.

Excellent post!

99 posted on 06/30/2007 7:39:02 AM PDT by greyfoxx39 (Duct tape is like the Force, it has a light side and a dark side and it holds the universe together)
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To: Liz

BTW, Lowrey keeps getting better and better as a writer. His articles have lost that wimpish tone that they used to have. A little disillusion is good for a journalist.


100 posted on 06/30/2007 7:40:03 AM PDT by RobbyS ( CHIRHO)
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