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Man Set to Be Euthanized Regains Consciousness
The Christian Post ^ | 6-28-07 | Doug Huntington

Posted on 06/29/2007 8:23:46 AM PDT by Bladerunnuh

On May 30, Ramirez was part of a serious car accident where he suffered multiple injuries and was put into a comatose state. He was placed onto feeding tubes where he received nourishment and water.

Ten days later, the man’s wife, Rebecca, 33, asked doctors to pull him from the tubes after they explained that the accident would probably leave the man blind or in vegetative state.

For five days, the hospital withheld sustenance from the injured man, but restored the tubes after the Alliance Defense Fund (ADF) – an Ariz.-based Christian law firm – filed a lawsuit on behalf of the rest of Ramirez family.

On Tuesday, a settlement was reached in which all decision-making for the patient will move from wife Rebecca to a court-appointed guardian. The man will also be moved to a rehabilitation center.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Miscellaneous; US: Arizona
KEYWORDS: adf; alexramirez; arizona; euthanized; terri
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I hope I don't get hurt in Arizona-- ha
1 posted on 06/29/2007 8:23:47 AM PDT by Bladerunnuh
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The legal assumption that the spouse has the injured person's best interests at heart is questionable.
2 posted on 06/29/2007 8:27:18 AM PDT by wideawake ("Pearl Harbor is America's fault, right, Mommy?" - Ron Paul, age 6, 12/7/1941)
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To: Bladerunnuh

bookmark for later


3 posted on 06/29/2007 8:27:28 AM PDT by Cedar
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To: Bladerunnuh

“Ohhhhh.. what are you doing? Were you pulling the plug on me!”


4 posted on 06/29/2007 8:28:37 AM PDT by dfwgator (The University of Florida - Still Championship U)
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Yeah, she had his best interests at heart. Kill him and then go to the boyfriend.


5 posted on 06/29/2007 8:30:38 AM PDT by Old Retired Army Guy
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To: Bladerunnuh
after they explained that the accident would probably leave the man blind or in vegetative state.

Would they also have stopped feeding him if he was going to be a little deaf in the left ear? Although I suppose it is easier to starve a blind man because you can hide any food he might come across while walking down the hospital hallway.

6 posted on 06/29/2007 8:30:44 AM PDT by KarlInOhio (A base looking for a party.)
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To: Bladerunnuh
10 days is an insanely short amount of time to justify such a drastic action.

I truly believe that this young man and his family have been the beneficiary of a divine intervention.

7 posted on 06/29/2007 8:32:53 AM PDT by HEY4QDEMS (Sarchasm: The gulf between the author of sarcastic wit and the person who doesn't get it.)
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To: wideawake

I don’t know about it being questionable, although of course that’s a possibility. But with so many people and the MSM always touting that that’s what most people would want (not being on life support, etc. etc.), I think a significant number of people get conned into thinking that they are doing the right thing when they make a decision like this. I’ve told my family that they are not to remove reasonable life support on me. If they do and I die, I will come back to haunt them. I just don’t trust the medical establishment.


8 posted on 06/29/2007 8:33:30 AM PDT by twigs
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To: Bladerunnuh

“According to a report from Rebecca Ramirez, who was also in the Toyota SUV when it crashed, the accident was a result of a heated argument in the car between the husband and wife about a man’s phone number on Rebecca’s phone. It was reported that Jesse was suspicious of an affair.

After refusing to let the woman out of the car, she opened her door as if to jump, causing concern to Jesse which led to him to flip the car over and throw them both from the vehicle.”

So the wife wanted to pull the tubes.... gee I wonder why?????


9 posted on 06/29/2007 8:33:52 AM PDT by Sleeping Freeper
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To: Bladerunnuh

Boy, THAT’S going to make family dinners a lot more awkward...


10 posted on 06/29/2007 8:35:25 AM PDT by Malacoda (A day without a pi$$ed-off muslim is like a day without sunshine.)
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To: Bladerunnuh

The court appointed putting down of Terri Shiavo by the man who may well ave out her in that state has set precedence which will last for decades. Thank God Ramirez regained consciousness....though even before reading the original I had a feeling they were going to have marital problems very shortly. Now it looks as though marital problems caused hom to have the accident to begin with.


11 posted on 06/29/2007 8:36:54 AM PDT by cake_crumb (May I never live to see the day America has a 'popular war'. God bless our troops.)
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"Yeah, she had his best interests at heart. Kill him and then go to the boyfriend."

...With his life insurance check from an accident she admits she caused.

12 posted on 06/29/2007 8:37:59 AM PDT by cake_crumb (May I never live to see the day America has a 'popular war'. God bless our troops.)
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To: Bladerunnuh

Hmmm.... this could be bad, she’s probably already spent his life insurance money.... Try and explain that one.


13 posted on 06/29/2007 8:39:08 AM PDT by Cate (Thank God for the USA and our troops!)
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To: twigs

If you knew you were the cause of the accident that put your spouse in that state, would you wait a mere week and a half before asking them to let him die of thirst? I doubt it.


14 posted on 06/29/2007 8:39:55 AM PDT by cake_crumb (May I never live to see the day America has a 'popular war'. God bless our troops.)
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To: twigs

My dad recently passed away, and for the last 6 months of his life, he was in and out of the hospital. As they moved him from room to room, someone would always come in with a clipboard asking him if he wanted to be removed from life support and when, and my dad’s mind was sharp until the day he died, and he’d look at them, and say, “No, I’d prefer they stay on— thank you.”

And then they would leave and we’d all get a laugh out of it. Although it wasn’t funny, it was just tasteless, and morbid. We probably had to sign that thing 50 times in 6 months.


15 posted on 06/29/2007 8:41:29 AM PDT by Bladerunnuh
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To: Bladerunnuh

That was fast on the trigger. Usually they don’t begin to consider pulling the plug for 6 weeks if the person isn’t declared brain dead.


16 posted on 06/29/2007 8:43:32 AM PDT by Kirkwood
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To: Bladerunnuh

Better here than anywhere else. The Alliance
Defense Fund is located here.


17 posted on 06/29/2007 8:44:19 AM PDT by righttackle44 (The most dangerous weapon in the world is a Marine with his rifle and the American people behind him)
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To: wideawake
This was in the print edition of my local paper here in AZ...this happened a few miles from where I live.

Left out of this story was an interesting remark from the Judge...

He ["Judge" Paul Katz] also admonished the families to get along for Jesse Ramirez’s sake and questioned aloud whether any of them had his best interests at heart."

I wonder how the judge managed to torture his mind into such a non-judgemental position? Let's see...the spouse was fighting with him at the time of the crash, and demanded food cut-off almost immediately. His family intervenes to save his life, and the "judge" can't figure out who has the patient's best interests in mind?

I know this Judge because I've been before him. He is a total asshat. He think "everybody should just get along," and that he can make it so by simply ordering it.

I found the link to the online story: Here

18 posted on 06/29/2007 8:45:09 AM PDT by Cyber Liberty (Did Dennis Kucinich always look like that or did he have to submit to a series of shots? [firehat])
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To: Bladerunnuh

Even the French, with their socialized medicine hospitals, don’t usually pull the plug on you for at least 30 days;-)


19 posted on 06/29/2007 8:45:54 AM PDT by toothfairy86
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To: dfwgator
From the article, “The incident is similar to case involving Theresa Marie “Terri” Schiavo in Florida in 2005. She too was placed on feeding tubes and was eventually starved to death after authorities removed them. She had been in a vegetative state since 1990, however.”

What?
First of all, she was not in a vegetative state and I wish people would quit spouting off this lie. Second, does the length of her condition make it okay to withhold basic care such as food and water (the word however at the end seems to be a justification). Third, she died of complications due to dehydration. Fourth, this is from a Christian source? Like the abortion issue, this has to be surrounded by so many lies to make it palatable to the masses.

20 posted on 06/29/2007 8:48:31 AM PDT by christianhomeschoolmommaof3 (new poster, not enough time to think up a clever tagline.)
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