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Police in Plantation, Florida, say ex-Marine within his rights to shoot armed robbers in Subway
South Florida Sun Sentinel ^
| 6/29/2007
| Akilah Johnson, Andrew Tran and Juan C. Ortega
Posted on 06/29/2007 6:11:33 AM PDT by Happy Valley Dude
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To: Savage Beast
""No need to let something like that live"'nuff said.
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posted on
06/29/2007 6:39:08 AM PDT
by
cake_crumb
(May I never live to see the day America has a 'popular war'. God bless our troops.)
To: Sir Hailstone
m But he was a good boy.S
42
posted on
06/29/2007 6:39:36 AM PDT
by
Unicorn
(Too many wimps around.)
To: Sir Hailstone
But the mens friends and family want to know how he could gun them down and not be charged.
Five will get you ten that the surviving perp, surrounded by newly arrived lawyers hoping for a contingency fee, will announce from his taxpayer-funded hospital bed that he’s suing the Marine for being shot while trying to make a living. “That mean ol’ Jarhead — he creatin’ a hostile workplace!”
43
posted on
06/29/2007 6:40:12 AM PDT
by
Clioman
To: texas booster
And a Corvette! At 71, driving a "pick-up-babes" mobile like a Vette. Yeah, give the guy a free cruise.
Have no idea if he still has the Vette, but it said that happened in 1990 when he would have been 54-years old.
To: YOUGOTIT
But the men's friends and family want to know how he could gun them down and not be charged.
Cuz folks, some people just need killin.
45
posted on
06/29/2007 6:42:40 AM PDT
by
HEY4QDEMS
(Sarchasm: The gulf between the author of sarcastic wit and the person who doesn't get it.)
To: claudiustg
The parents should be charged with conspiracy to commit armed robbery. The family was probably benefiting from the loot of the man's criminal career, which is why they're so upset
To: YOUGOTIT
They said their grandson sometimes hung with the wrong crowd but never got into legal trouble. According to the Florida Department of Law Enforcement, he has no arrest record. They said Gadson, who never finished high school, got tired of low-wage jobs and was pursuing his GED. Yes, of course, we've all heard that before. But they left out the "aspiring rapper" part. And they also forgot to mention that he was thinking about asking his latest baby-mama if he could move in with her. C'mon Granny, stick to the script!
-ccm
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posted on
06/29/2007 6:47:58 AM PDT
by
ccmay
(Too much Law; not enough Order.)
To: NorthFlaRebel
Good catch. Still, it looks like the Vette is almost mandatory for old guys in Florida, and then for their widows when they pass (see post 36).
48
posted on
06/29/2007 6:48:00 AM PDT
by
texas booster
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To: bill1952
-—They have zero shame and do not believe that real punishment extends to them, since they are all victims of being black.-—
They don’t feel guilt, only a sense that something has unexpectedly gone wrong.
The only time they’ll possibly feel shame is when they are publicly dragged out and hung. It exposes them as powerless failures. Our ancestors realized this very well.
49
posted on
06/29/2007 6:48:10 AM PDT
by
claudiustg
(You know it. I know it.)
To: Lonesome in Massachussets
The “friends and family” need to be tarred and feathered and run out of town on a rail.
50
posted on
06/29/2007 6:49:22 AM PDT
by
Little Ray
(Rudy Guiliani: If his wives can't trust him, why should we?)
To: All
Now the countdown to the arrival of the Justice Brothers with megaphones in South Florida.
51
posted on
06/29/2007 6:50:26 AM PDT
by
Sir Hailstone
(Graduate of Archie Bunker's School of Conservatism. . . . [http://digitalfarmers.blogspot.com])
To: NonValueAdded
VERY good post. Love your tagline. He’d have loved this story.
52
posted on
06/29/2007 6:51:41 AM PDT
by
cake_crumb
(May I never live to see the day America has a 'popular war'. God bless our troops.)
To: YOUGOTIT
This is why I’m moving to Florida. If this happened in Maryland, the Marine would be going to jail.
53
posted on
06/29/2007 6:51:58 AM PDT
by
Vision
("Blessed is the man who trusts in the Lord, whose confidence is in him." Jeremiah 17:7)
To: YOUGOTIT
I’m a Canadian, so you can guess how many people I talk to have trouble grasping that concept. They think that you should retreat or cower from armed robbers, and that those armed robbers are just poor, misunderstood folks who come from broken families and poor socio-economic backgrounds and blah blah blah. I don’t know what’s wrong with them that they can’t see that someone sticking a gun or a knife in people’s faces for money is threatening bodily injury or death, and that whatever happens to them they have coming to them. What the heck is wrong with them?
54
posted on
06/29/2007 6:54:52 AM PDT
by
-YYZ-
(Strong like bull, smart like ox.)
To: GovernmentShrinker
Mr. Lovell shouldn't have had to wait until the perps turned on him to legally shoot them. He should have been perfectly free to shoot them while they were focusing on the cashier, without fear of prosecution. I believe that's aleady the case in most states.
Here in Arizona the relevant statute reads:
"Section 13-406:
A person is justified in threatening or using physical force or deadly physical force against another to protect a third person if:
- Under the circumstances as a reasonable person would believe them to be, such person would be justified under section 13-404 or 13-405 in threatening or using physical force or deadly physical force to protect himself against the unlawful physical force or deadly physical force a reasonable person would believe is threatening the third person he seeks to protect; and
- A reasonable person would believe that such person's intervention is immediately necessary to protect the third person."
-ccm
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posted on
06/29/2007 6:56:56 AM PDT
by
ccmay
(Too much Law; not enough Order.)
To: YOUGOTIT
“Florida law gives people the right of “self-defense without the duty to retreat.” That means individuals can use deadly force virtually anywhere to prevent death or serious injury.”
This is the REAL pi55er here! A principality or power cannot confer a right. A right exists intrinsically and is not a privilege.
Nice shooting Tex!
Stay alert
56
posted on
06/29/2007 6:58:15 AM PDT
by
petro45acp
(SUPPORT/BE YOUR LOCAL SHEEPDOG! "On Sheep, Wolves, and Sheepdogs" By David Grossman)
To: GovernmentShrinker
".9 mm " Dang! That thing shoots micro BB's!
To: All
Arrindell was struck twice once in the head and once in the stomach...
Gadson was hit in the chest...
Nice grouping, and he probably only pulled the trigger 3 times.
58
posted on
06/29/2007 7:02:44 AM PDT
by
Cyclone59
(I'm trying to think, but nothing happens)
To: GovernmentShrinker
" police had arrested him for having a loaded .9 mm and three extra clips behind the driver's seat of a Corvette without proper permits for the gun. The Broward State's Attorney's Office declined to file charges in that case." No charges files because the DA got a phone call explaining how Mr. Lovell had ably served the Kennedy/Johnson administration aboard Marine 1.
Good deal!
To: All
loaded .45 caliber handgun from his holster and fired seven rounds,”
Sorry, I didn’t see this the first time around. Dayam, a 45, he put three giant holes in these dudes.
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posted on
06/29/2007 7:05:24 AM PDT
by
Cyclone59
(I'm trying to think, but nothing happens)
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