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Darwinism and popular culture: Darwinism, religion, and the courts
The ID Report ^ | June 24, 2007 | Denyse O'Leary

Posted on 06/24/2007 12:20:25 PM PDT by GodGunsGuts

The effort to recast Darwin as a religious man, more religious in fact than the common run of Christians and other believers, in the runup to the bicentennial of his birth is well under way in many quarters:

"Darwin counted himself an agnostic, but in his reverence for the creative agency of nature we should count him a devoutly religious man. "There is a grandeur in this view of life," he famously wrote on the last page of The Origin of Species. The grandeur of which he spoke of has more of the divine about it than did the anthropomorphic idol who occupied the thoughts of his contemporaries."

This musing by Chet Raymo (April 22, 2007) is a typical encomium. Go here, here, and here for examples of ridiculous hagiography whose authors take it all quite seriously. For intolerance, unreasoning fanaticism, and belief in miracles, there is no religious bunny anywhere like the serious Darwinist.

But recently, my attention as attracted to Lifetime: Songs of Life & Evolution a musical by British composer David Haines, with somewhat catchy songs, sung by people "with a mission to spread the good word about evolution."...

(Excerpt) Read more at arn.org ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Government
KEYWORDS: creationscience; darwin; devoutpagan; enjoythevoid; evolution; freetard; godless; intelligentdesign
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1 posted on 06/24/2007 12:20:26 PM PDT by GodGunsGuts
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To: DaveLoneRanger; SirLinksalot; Tolerance Sucks Rocks

ping!


2 posted on 06/24/2007 12:21:26 PM PDT by GodGunsGuts
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To: GodGunsGuts

“The good word” about Darwinism?

Deosn’t Satan ever sleep?


3 posted on 06/24/2007 12:26:41 PM PDT by BenLurkin
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To: GodGunsGuts

bump


4 posted on 06/24/2007 12:28:13 PM PDT by VOA
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To: BenLurkin

LOL


5 posted on 06/24/2007 12:28:37 PM PDT by GodGunsGuts
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To: Youngblood; Coyoteman; ahayes; Stultis; narby

ping


6 posted on 06/24/2007 12:31:19 PM PDT by GodGunsGuts
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To: BenLurkin

Deosn’t Satan ever sleep?
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Never. There are “people” on this planet that have little to do in life, so they create the insane, the absurd, the ridiculous pursuits of anything they can make trouble for. Just ask Al Gore and his “religous” following of liberal zombies...


7 posted on 06/24/2007 12:32:33 PM PDT by EagleUSA
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To: GodGunsGuts

Denyse O’Leary is great.


8 posted on 06/24/2007 12:35:11 PM PDT by Tribune7 (A bleeding heart does nothing but ruin the carpet)
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To: Tribune7

Yes she is! I have been a regular reader of hers for the last six months or so...and I must say, she consistently fails to disappoint :o)


9 posted on 06/24/2007 12:40:16 PM PDT by GodGunsGuts
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To: GodGunsGuts

read later


10 posted on 06/24/2007 2:00:15 PM PDT by LiteKeeper (Beware the secularization of America; the Islamization of Eurabia)
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To: GodGunsGuts

The fun thing about Darwin is his years of experimentation.

He spent years (and published hundreds of papers) on how long seeds would remain vital soaked in sea water. By matching that with the known direction of wind and current, he was able to match the extent of species to the viability of their seeds.

The alternative? A combination of Special Creation (divine intervention in the creating of each species) and Special Delivery (divine intervention in the positioning of each species).


11 posted on 06/24/2007 2:06:02 PM PDT by donmeaker (You may not be interested in War but War is interested in you.)
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To: donmeaker; GodGunsGuts
Good point. Biogeography isn't much discussed nowadays in popular treatments of evolution, but it remains very compelling evidence. It was probably a big factor in convincing many of the initial converts to evolution. Some of the earliest work by contributors other than Darwin himself were in this area, showing how otherwise unaccountable patterns in the distributions of plants animals were explicable assuming evolution; e.g. botantists like Asa Gray in America and Joseph Hooker in England, and zoologists like natural selection co-discoverer Wallace.

Of course the argument from biogeography -- or rather the combination of biogeography and paleontology -- presents a double problem for strict creationist who insist on "flood geology" and the story of Noah's ark.

Not only did the plants and animals, upon being released from the ark, have to arrange themselves about the globe in patterns of distribution that mimicked the results of descent with modification over millions of years, but the also and simultaneously had to manage to return to those places where their fossils, and those of their (apparent) ancestors were buried. Quite a trick!

12 posted on 06/24/2007 6:25:21 PM PDT by Stultis (I don't worry about the war turning into "Vietnam" in Iraq; I worry about it doing so in Congress.)
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To: GodGunsGuts
Despite the fact that Darwinists insist that their concerns are secular, it is painfully obvious that a religious agenda lies at the heart of Darwinism...

We have been hearing a lot lately about the scientific theory of evolution being a religion. This idea is BS, of course, and pretty much everybody knows it. But who keeps repeating this falsehood, and what is their motivation?

(Who was it who first said that if you tell a lie often enough, it becomes the truth?)

13 posted on 06/24/2007 7:01:44 PM PDT by Coyoteman (Religious belief does not constitute scientific evidence, nor does it convey scientific knowledge.)
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To: RightWingAtheist; Admin Moderator

Perhaps you should have the moderator delete your comment. I know FR isn’t what it used to be, but hopefully they still don’t allow the “F” word.


15 posted on 06/24/2007 9:57:21 PM PDT by Chena (I do not spend time with liars or go along with hypocrites. - Psalms 26:4)
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==We have been hearing a lot lately about the scientific theory of evolution being a religion. This idea is BS

The (neo-pagan) Church of Darwin worships a mysterious force that they fervently believe both creates and pushes life towards ever greater degrees of complexity and perfection. Sorry Coyote, in my book, that's religion.

16 posted on 06/25/2007 2:49:41 PM PDT by GodGunsGuts
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To: GodGunsGuts
The (neo-pagan) Church of Darwin worships a mysterious force that they fervently believe both creates and pushes life towards ever greater degrees of complexity and perfection. Sorry Coyote, in my book, that's religion.

Still BS.

17 posted on 06/25/2007 3:54:49 PM PDT by Coyoteman (Religious belief does not constitute scientific evidence, nor does it convey scientific knowledge.)
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To: Coyoteman

==Still BS.

I wonder how many times you have to repeat that to yourself every day in order to justify your membership in the Church of Darwin.


18 posted on 06/25/2007 3:58:13 PM PDT by GodGunsGuts
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To: Chena
I know FR isn’t what it used to be, but hopefully they still don’t allow the “F” word.

If you google the "F" word on freerepublic.com you will find hundreds of instances wher it has not been deleted.

19 posted on 06/25/2007 3:59:24 PM PDT by js1138
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If you google the "F" word on freerepublic.com you will find hundreds of instances wher it has not been deleted.

JS, you made that remark before. I already went through that issue with you right here.

Link to delicious take down of js1138's bogus assertion

I really don't like it when you try to manufacture an "outrage" against FreeRepublic. If you're going to manufacture an outrage against this site, try to come up with more original material.

I'm personally glad that RightWingAtheist is gone. He doesn't belong here, and he doesn't do any good. He is ignorant, ill-mannered, and foul mouthed. Maybe he would be happier over at Darwin Central. Since you're a moderator over there, I'm sure you could get him in.
20 posted on 06/27/2007 1:03:28 AM PDT by dbehsman (RADIO IS GONE, AND FREEREPUBLIC STILL STANDS!!!!!!!!!)
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