Posted on 06/23/2007 1:28:02 PM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist
(AP) SALT LAKE CITY -- Mitt Romney said Saturday that criticism of his Mormon religion by rival GOP presidential campaigns is happening too frequently.
“Clearly, any derogatory comments about anyone’s faith—those comments are troubling. The fact they keep on coming up is even more troubling,” Romney said during a fundraising trip in the home state of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints.
The Mormon church is one of the fastest-growing religions and claims about 12.5 million members worldwide. But many evangelical Christians in crucial primary states such as Iowa and South Carolina consider the faith a cult.
Romney’s remarks follow an apology from GOP rival John McCain’s campaign for comments about the Mormon church allegedly made this year by a volunteer.
Also recently, Republican presidential hopeful, Sen. Sam Brownback of Kansas, issued a similar apology for a campaign worker’s e-mail to Iowa Republican leaders that was an apparent attempt to draw unfavorable scrutiny of Romney’s religion. Former New York City mayor Rudy Giuliani apologized after the New York Sun noted that a campaign aide had forwarded to a blogger a story about unofficial Mormon lore. Legend has it that a Mormon would save the Constitution, the story said. The campaign aide passed the story along with a note: “Thought you’d find this interesting.”
Romney said in a large presidential race there always will be some volunteers or workers who cannot be controlled. But he said the difference between derogatory comments that originated from the McCain campaign and others is that the Arizona senator has not personally apologized to him.
“In the case of Senator Brownback and Mayor Giuliani ... they called immediately. They each spoke with me personally. I don’t have any issue with that at all,” Romney said.
He said McCain “can do whatever he feels is the right thing. There’s no need for me to suggest how people respond to things that go on in the campaign.”
Tucker Bounds, a McCain campaign spokesman, said the McCain campaign has already apologized.
“It’s a very sincere apology. There is absolutely no place for those type of comments in our campaign,” he said.
Romney, a former governor of Massachusetts, said he had not spoken with McCain since the last presidential debate, on June 5.
Romney used a fundraiser hosted by Utah Jazz owner Larry Miller to criticize the McCain-Feingold campaign finance law. It banned unregulated, unlimited contributions from corporations, unions and wealthy individuals to national political parties and federal candidates.
“The bill ought to be repealed,” he said. “It’s been the wrong course for American campaigns.”
Romney said he favors unlimited donations as long as they are immediately disclosed on the Internet.
Romney was attending fundraisers in Salt Lake City and in Logan on Saturday.
I thought I answered your question clearly. If I am striving in my life to be obedient to Christ’s teachings, then the answer is yes.
The reason is that good works (obedience to Christ’s teachings) are a means to faith; faith is the principle that saves. Remove good works, remove faith. Remove faith, remove salvation.
Am I currently striving to be obedient to Christ’s teachings? Well, that’s between God and me.
~”What do mormons today think about the wacky stuff like
that, which it’s leaders have said?”~
Generally, the “wacky stuff” that we are accused of is untrue or twisted to fit an agenda, so we naturally don’t think much of it.
As for the remaining “wacky stuff” that is accurate to what we believe, we own it. Ask me about it sometime; I’ll talk about it without shame.
The only “substance” I care about at this point is Jesus Christ and Him crucified to save the whole world and that includes me and you.
I don’t like to read all the vile comments about my faith and my Church but I can’t stop you. Have at it. Free country.
But know this: You will only cause my faith to grow stronger. I am not ashamed of the Gospel of Jesus Christ. I love my Church. I love my Savior.
You are most welcome, I do what I can. Works you know.
Remaining comments self censored.
Enjoy Hell.
I believe ampu's error lies in that he confuses "belief" with "faith" while they are not the same.
Thank you for being a good example, FReeper pal. I am grateful for your testimony.
You are so funny.
Wow! You are God Almighty in the flesh. You know who’s going to hell and who’s not.
The LDS do not disagree one does not have to do works to be SAVED!
But the LDS do believe we must allow the Lord to edify us and we exercise to strengthen our abilities that Lord gave us by obeying his commandments by doing the Lord’s work in righteousness and that is only achieved when we are in the spirit of the Lord.
The Spirit of the Lord is something you can’t always see, or smell or taste when doing his will, but will feel the warmth of the Lord when a job well done!
Matthew 12:32
Matthew 12:32
Baptolic
http://www.google.com/search?sourceid=navclient&ie=UTF-8&rlz=1T4GGLJ_enUS227US228&q=Baptolic%2e
Sounds good to me. I'm with you on this one.
LOL! I should have known someone thought of that before me.
Enosh does appear to represent a significant portion of Orthodox Christianity in his position.
I’ve actually read commentary - which was agreed to by several participants on this thread - that essentially stated that law is for those who have not been saved through their faith.
In other words, many Orthodox Christians appear to believe that all a person has to do to enter Heaven is to have faith in Christ’s atonement. No other action is required - evidently not even obedience to the commandments that have been given by Christ.
Where the logic breaks down is this: I have faith in Christ’s atonement. By their definition, I am saved, no matter what I do, as long as I have that faith. Yet, I am a Mormon; therefore, I am not saved, because I follow heresies.
So, which is it? Am I saved by faith, just like them, despite my “good works?” Or am I damned by my heresies? The two assertions are mutually exclusive, and I invite any Orthodox Christian to explain the apparent contradiction. I have done so in the past, and am yet to receive an answer.
Enjoy Hell.
Excuse him, he must only be about 16 or 17 when He is 25 or 30, his head full mush should be developed!
I might just add that we cannot perform any work of ourselves that would bring us salvation. It is only through Christ that we may receive such. However, Christ having purchased us, it is also His will and His prerogative to set the terms of our debt that He now owns. He has commanded us to do many things. There are principles, ordinances and covenants that we must receive and enter into to be acceptable before Him and to enter into His kingdom and into His presence. Faith, repentance, baptism, and the reception of the Holy Ghost are among them.
~”Show me one place where I ever claimed to be Catholic.”~
You did tell me on this thread that you consider yourself “99% Catholic.”
It seemed apparent to me from this statement that you were saying you were Catholic, with a couple of Evangelical viewpoints. Evidently, my conclusion was wrong.
You may want to modify your descriptions of yourself if you want to prevent people from coming to false conclusions about your religious affiliation.
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