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To: aMorePerfectUnion

I thought I answered your question clearly. If I am striving in my life to be obedient to Christ’s teachings, then the answer is yes.

The reason is that good works (obedience to Christ’s teachings) are a means to faith; faith is the principle that saves. Remove good works, remove faith. Remove faith, remove salvation.

Am I currently striving to be obedient to Christ’s teachings? Well, that’s between God and me.


1,501 posted on 06/30/2007 1:14:49 PM PDT by tantiboh
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To: tantiboh; aMorePerfectUnion
Excuse me for cutting in.

I believe ampu's error lies in that he confuses "belief" with "faith" while they are not the same.

1,507 posted on 06/30/2007 1:19:33 PM PDT by DanielLongo (Don't tread on me)
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To: tantiboh

Sorry Tant, I don’t get your answer.

If I understand what you are saying...

As long as you are striving to be obedient
when you die, then you are 100% sure
that you will go to be in the presence of
God??

Consequently, if you are not striving to be
obedient, you will not go to be in the presence
of God??

If I have not accurately stated your belief,
I apologize in advance. And if I did, would
you kindly correct it?

“The reason is that good works (obedience to Christ’s teachings) are a means to faith; faith is the principle that saves. Remove good works, remove faith. Remove faith, remove salvation.”

If I’m hearing you right, you are not 100% sure until you
take your last breath? And do you have to be married
in the Temple and all that to spend eternity in
the presence of God?

best,
ampu


1,541 posted on 06/30/2007 1:55:03 PM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion
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