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'We Will Try to Form an Islamic Society': Hamas co-founder
Der Spiegel Online ^ | 06/22/2007 | Ulrike Putz

Posted on 06/23/2007 2:02:00 AM PDT by Republicain

Mahmoud Zahar -- a founder of Hamas, and one of its most militant hardliners -- has called for an Islamic state in the Gaza Strip. After the Hamas takeover of the territory last week, he's also threatened Fatah with more violence in the West Bank.

SPIEGEL ONLINE: After heavy fighting, Hamas won control over the Gaza Strip last Saturday. But it's not clear what your party now intends to do. The assumption in the Western world is that Hamas wants to establish an Islamic state in Gaza. Is this true?

Zahar: Of course. We want to do that, but with full support of the people. At the moment we can't establish an Islamic state because we Palestinians have no state. As long as we don't have a state, we will try to form an Islamic society.

SPIEGEL ONLINE: How would a Hamas-led Islamic state look?

Zahar: There would be no difference from how it looks today, because our customs and traditions in Gaza are already Islamic. Marriage, divorce, daily business -- everything is Islamic. As soon as we have a state, then everyone will have their freedom. Christians will remain Christians, parties could be secular or even Communist.

SPIEGEL ONLINE: If an Islamic state is the ideal, why are there not more of them?

Zahar: If there were free and fair elections throughout the Arab world, Islamic forms of government would win everywhere. Islam is against the corruption, weakening, and materialism which have destroyed societies in Europe and America. Families are broken (in the West); there are AIDS and drugs. We don't have such things here.

(Excerpt) Read more at spiegel.de ...


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: gaza; hamas; islam; palestine
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1 posted on 06/23/2007 2:02:03 AM PDT by Republicain
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To: Republicain
We can expect them to cutting off hands and feet soon I suppose.

Does anyone in Washington have any gravitas left?

An American Expat in Southeast Asia

2 posted on 06/23/2007 2:04:53 AM PDT by expatguy (http://laotze.blogspot.com/)
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To: expatguy

I did not know that W. had appointed a woman as ambassador to Pakistan (and it wasn’t Harriet Myers). What a bloody genius! Of course his father had a woman ambassador to Iraq, at the time of their invasion of Kuwait.

I would think it would, at least, be considered an insult to the powers that be, in those countries. How anyone could consider such an act to be “diplomatic”, is beyond me. Sometimes mere stupidity does not quite answer the question.


3 posted on 06/23/2007 2:18:57 AM PDT by David Isaac (Duncan Hunter '08)
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To: Republicain
“The assumption in the Western world is that Hamas wants to establish an Islamic state in Gaza.”

That is the assumption by the idiotic liberals who run the Western World. Hamas and their ilk want to establish an Islamic world, with the establishment of Islamic states in Gaza, West Back, Israel, Iraq, Afghanistan, simply being steps along the path to that ultimate goal.

4 posted on 06/23/2007 2:32:11 AM PDT by Ninian Dryhope ("Bush lied, people dyed. Their fingers." The inestimable Mark Steyn)
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To: Republicain
“We don’t have such things here.”

Sure, we have honor killings and our women walk around looking as dehumanized zombies, but that is a small price to pay for the backwards squalor that Islam has brought to our land.

5 posted on 06/23/2007 2:35:34 AM PDT by Ninian Dryhope ("Bush lied, people dyed. Their fingers." The inestimable Mark Steyn)
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To: David Isaac

You are so correct and even more insulting to those of so sensitive Muslims, those ambassadors were probably Christians. What idiots our Presidents were to appoint dirty stinking infidels as ambassadors to those wonderful Muslim countries.


6 posted on 06/23/2007 2:39:43 AM PDT by Ninian Dryhope ("Bush lied, people dyed. Their fingers." The inestimable Mark Steyn)
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To: Republicain

No aids and no drugs! how do you explain that queer sodomite Arafat and his ilk?


7 posted on 06/23/2007 3:11:55 AM PDT by Lewite (Praise YAHWEH and Proclaim His Wonderful Name! Islam, the end time Beast-the harlot of Babylon.)
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To: David Isaac
It is a stroke of Genius, if you want a war with Islam. The state department are not fools, just evil geniuses. They have gained more power over the American people because of Islam than any public benefit program in History.

Islam is the 21st century useful idiots.

8 posted on 06/23/2007 3:14:54 AM PDT by American in Israel (A wise man's heart directs him to the right, but the foolish mans heart directs him toward the left.)
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To: Republicain
Marriage, divorce, daily business -- everything is Islamic. As soon as we have a state, then everyone will have their freedom.

Freedom? Try slavery to Satan.

9 posted on 06/23/2007 3:20:10 AM PDT by SkyPilot
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To: Republicain

No surprise. That is their stated goal. There is no possible dealing with these people. Confining them to their territory may work.


10 posted on 06/23/2007 3:27:19 AM PDT by Leftism is Mentally Deranged
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To: SkyPilot

Maybe their slogan can be - “ The State will set you free”.
Government models other than Anglo Saxon Judeo Christian Rule of Law based ones don’t seem to have a good track record of setting people free and respecting the rights of individuals.
( I rule out the French Revolution because it was followed by a rain of terror, beheadings, rule by early socialists who called themselves a republic but organized like a totalitarian state, and then a dictatorship).


11 posted on 06/23/2007 3:27:42 AM PDT by Waverunner ( "Think for yourselves and let others enjoy the privilege to do so too." Voltaire)
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To: Ninian Dryhope

The HAMAS children’s magazine (No. 66), tells the children about the city called Asbilia (Seville) and calls on them to free it, together with the whole country, from the infidels and to reinstate Muslim rule.

This is how the magazine has the city Asbilia (Seville) telling its story to Hamas’ children: “Salaam Aleykum my dear beloved. I would like to introduce myself: I am the city Asbilia, the bride of the country Andalus (Spain). In the past I was the Capital of the Kingdom of Asbilia… the Arab Muslims, led by the hero-commander Musa bin Nusair, conquered me in 713, after a siege, which lasted one month.

“In the year 97 of the Muslim calendar, the ruler of Andalus, Ayoub bin Habib al-Lahimi moved the Capital to my sister city, Cordoba… in the year 646 of the Muslim calendar, Ferdinand III besieged me and conquered me after a siege which lasted one year and five months, and that was due to the strength of my fortifications and my walls. This is when the Golden Age of the Muslims ended, and Asbilia (Seville) was lost by the Muslims.”

And the story goes on: “However, Muslim cultural expression and symbols still remain witness to the superior Muslim culture on my soil…I yearn that you, my beloved, will call me to return, together with the rest of the lost cities of the lost orchard [Andalus] to the hands of the Muslims so that joy and happiness will fill my land, and you will visit me because I am the bride of the country of Andalus.”

http://www.frontpagemag.com/Articles/ReadArticle.asp?ID=20726


12 posted on 06/23/2007 3:27:51 AM PDT by endthematrix (a globalized and integrated world - which is coming, one way or the other. - Hillary)
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http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1843491/posts?page=934#934
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1843491/posts?page=952#952


13 posted on 06/23/2007 3:39:50 AM PDT by Cindy
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A Sampler -- ON THE NET:

BBC NEWS.com: "GAZA MILITANTS LAUNCH 'WEB-WAR'" by Malik Mohamed al-Abdeh (June 21, 2007, 14:05 GMT, 15:05 UK)



LittleGreenFootballs.com - weblog: "NEW YORK TIMES SHILLS FOR HAMAS (Again)" (Note: Video included in the update.) (June 20 2007)

WorldNetDaily.com: "HAMAS: WE'LL OBTAIN EMERGENCY U.S. AID After seizing American weapons in Gaza, 'hopes' more arms provided to West Bank" by Aaron Klein (Posted June 19, 2007, 5:20 p.m. Eastern)

FreeRepublic.com - Key Word: "HAMAS"



FRONTPAGE MAGAZINE.com (PALESTINIAN MEDIA WATCH): "CHRISTIAN MONASTERY ATTACKED IN GAZA" by Itamar Marcus and Barbara Crook (June 20, 2007)



WorldNetDaily.com: Jerusalem - "CHRISTIANS WARNED: ACCEPT ISLAMIC LAW 'New Hamas rule means real changes,' missionaries to be 'dealt with harshly'" by Aaron Klein (Posted June 19, 2007, 1:00 a.m.)

YNET NEWS.com: "MILLIONS OF SHEKELS TRANSFERRED FROM SAUDI TO HAMAS Charity associations in Jerusalem receive millions of shekels to fund Hamas hostilities" by Aviram Zino (Published June 18, 2007, 20:22)

14 posted on 06/23/2007 3:43:43 AM PDT by Cindy
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http://www.truthusa.com/IRAN.html

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http://www.jihadwatch.org/archives/016745.php
JIHAD WATCH.org (YNET NEWS.com): “COUNTDOWN TO ISRAEL’S DESTRUCTION HAS BEGUN, SAYS AHMADINEJAD”
(June 3, 2007)

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http://www.jihadwatch.org/archives/016743.php
JIHAD WATCH.org (YNET NEWS.com): “IRAN URGES HAMAS TO FIGHT ON”
(June 3, 2007)


15 posted on 06/23/2007 3:50:45 AM PDT by Cindy
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To: Republicain
Zahar: There would be no difference from how it looks today

Except everyone will be wearing a burka!!!

16 posted on 06/23/2007 3:53:02 AM PDT by BunnySlippers
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To: Waverunner
You meant “Reign of Terror”.
17 posted on 06/23/2007 4:09:35 AM PDT by Ninian Dryhope ("Bush lied, people dyed. Their fingers." The inestimable Mark Steyn)
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To: David Isaac
Funny you should mention that, because I had rewritten the post in my blog a few times ~ and then found myself downplaying that particular issue so as not to divert myself from the main issue which was the new reactor.

The truth is that she won't be effective in an Islamic country.

Thanks for bringing it up - I might do a part 2 now.

An American Expat in Southeast Asia

18 posted on 06/23/2007 4:09:59 AM PDT by expatguy (http://laotze.blogspot.com/)
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To: Republicain

How would a “islamic society” differ from the “islamic society” already on display for the world? Will the jihadis STEP UP the KILLING?

LLS


19 posted on 06/23/2007 4:19:36 AM PDT by LibLieSlayer (Support America, Kill terrorists, Destroy dims!)
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To: David Isaac

Pakistan already has had a WOMAN as their leader. Would they not accept a woman as a representative for another Nation?

LLS


20 posted on 06/23/2007 4:21:22 AM PDT by LibLieSlayer (Support America, Kill terrorists, Destroy dims!)
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