The Inside Story Of How The Senate Immigration Bill Died: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1846868/posts
Mitch McConnell should see a huge jump in letters, faxes, emails, phone calls protesting his actions IMMEDIATELY!
Has anyone else noticed that when the pubbies were in charge, all that had to happen for a filibuster to stop a bill was for the dems to announce it, yet with the dems in charge, actual votes are taken for cloture?
Lott and Graham at a 14 percent favorability rating and dropping.
Looks like they won’t be satisfied until they reach a single digit score.
Now the RINO's know how America feels. We kept voting them into office to do our bidding and what have we received in return?
Besides... It's not the rights of Republican Senators Harry Reid and Mitch McConnell are curtailing... It's the American people's rights to have representatives that represent those that sent them to Washington in the first place.
Jerks!
Ping
There was something in this piece that I have not seen anywhere else before. That is the cloture vote on whether or not to bring out the bill as a new bill. Sounds like the bill can be killed if this cloture vote fails. Someone should post the details on this second cloture vote in a separate post for all to see.
It’s time for the voters to retire Graham and Lott.
One point not mentioned..Reid, after he gets cloture, will allow members of his caucus, i.e. Pryor and Landrieu, both of whom are up in 2008..to vote AGAINST the bill..which is wildly unpopular in their home states...thus McConnell is being doubly rolled..
Linseed Graham, “SHUT UP, you BIGOT!”
Trench Lott, “Turn yourself to SALT!”
They are trying to use the summer to their advantage. With so many people on vacation and such in the next two weeks, the gang in Washington hopes to sneak this one through.
Latest Zogby poll shows 3% popular support for the bill. I doubt you hear this on the old media networks.
Graham staked out his position on this because he thought that in the 08 election, he would be out of the Senate and in the McCain Administration as VP.
With McCain’s obvious decline in recent weeks, however, Graham may see the writing on the wall. His rants are out of desperation, as that giant sucking sound he hears is his Vice Presidency and very possibly his Senatorial career swishing around the opened drain.
Congress ordered exit and entry system in 1996 and … we still don’t have one. In fact, last fall [Secretary of Homeland Security] Michael Chertoff said building one would be cost prohibitive, it would cost billions of dollars and would take more than ten years. One of the things they are saying about this bill is, it is going to have an entry and exit system. They are lying to us again.
In 2002, there was a backlog of four million Green Card cases of “rampant and pervasive document fraud”, an increase of 50% over six years. “The staff is rewarded for timely handling of petitions,” rather than scrutiny on the merits. How is this going to happen now if suddenly they are inundated with 12 to 20 million applications…”
Congress and the Bush administration have used “subject to the availability of funds” to not fully implement the border security provisions of every bill they have passed and signed into law since 9/11.
The touch-back provisions that Sen. Hutchinson wants have nothing to do with slowing down illegal immigration in the future. The bill's actual provisions make no promises of lower illegal immigration and set no numerical reduction goals at all.
Most of the illegals here now do not want to become citizens, they want to remain citizens of their home country, but benefit from our social services, our tax dollars and our hard fought for way of life. How can anyone want to give legal status to criminals, gang members, fugitives, child molesters, rapists, etc. ?
Pres. Bush keeps saying this is to protect us, but these people are coming carrying diseases that we had wiped out years ago. I just don't trust congress or our government any more. They say one thing, but their actions don’t support their words. I’m fed up with this. Throwing money at it isn't the answer, actions are and there have been precious few of those. This bad bill will only be a magnet for more to cross the border. I am opposed to this bill from top to bottom, and there is no way they can spin it to change my mind.
I am surprised about McConnel. He’s usually good across the board. He wants to throw Bush a bone, but if he lets this bill through I believe he’s toast, as Rep leader. The Pubbies will get trounced in ‘08, big time and I cant believe he wants to end it this way. Spit or get off the pot, Mitch!
This article offered some needed clarity. There will be two big votes: the cloture vote, in which 60 votes are needed to invoke cloture and bring the bill to the floor, and the final vote approving the bill, which only requires a simple majority of 50 votes for it to pass. These people need to be leaned on to vote against cloture, first and foremost, because their “no” vote will count for less when only a majority is needed to pass the bill. I believe the Dems have the votes to pass the bill on the final vote. DEMAND THAT THEY VOTE AGAINST CLOTURE.
Who’d a thunk it, when they were taking history or civics class in high school, that members of the United States Senate would be plotting to find a way to SHUT OFF DEBATE about an important subject.
Cripes, Reagan got them to tear down the wall, and we’re turning into them!!
Truly a sad outcome.
What’s next? If you want to debate something they just send in the SS and shoot you?
Any thoughts on when these votes might come up? Are we talking today? next week, on the 4th of July during the fireworks display so no one will notice...?