Posted on 06/22/2007 5:48:28 AM PDT by indcons
Linseed Graham, “SHUT UP, you BIGOT!”
Trench Lott, “Turn yourself to SALT!”
They are trying to use the summer to their advantage. With so many people on vacation and such in the next two weeks, the gang in Washington hopes to sneak this one through.
Latest Zogby poll shows 3% popular support for the bill. I doubt you hear this on the old media networks.
Graham staked out his position on this because he thought that in the 08 election, he would be out of the Senate and in the McCain Administration as VP.
With McCain’s obvious decline in recent weeks, however, Graham may see the writing on the wall. His rants are out of desperation, as that giant sucking sound he hears is his Vice Presidency and very possibly his Senatorial career swishing around the opened drain.
Republican strategies got a lot done. Dems have nothing, so far.
Congress ordered exit and entry system in 1996 and … we still don’t have one. In fact, last fall [Secretary of Homeland Security] Michael Chertoff said building one would be cost prohibitive, it would cost billions of dollars and would take more than ten years. One of the things they are saying about this bill is, it is going to have an entry and exit system. They are lying to us again.
In 2002, there was a backlog of four million Green Card cases of “rampant and pervasive document fraud”, an increase of 50% over six years. “The staff is rewarded for timely handling of petitions,” rather than scrutiny on the merits. How is this going to happen now if suddenly they are inundated with 12 to 20 million applications…”
Congress and the Bush administration have used “subject to the availability of funds” to not fully implement the border security provisions of every bill they have passed and signed into law since 9/11.
The touch-back provisions that Sen. Hutchinson wants have nothing to do with slowing down illegal immigration in the future. The bill's actual provisions make no promises of lower illegal immigration and set no numerical reduction goals at all.
Most of the illegals here now do not want to become citizens, they want to remain citizens of their home country, but benefit from our social services, our tax dollars and our hard fought for way of life. How can anyone want to give legal status to criminals, gang members, fugitives, child molesters, rapists, etc. ?
Pres. Bush keeps saying this is to protect us, but these people are coming carrying diseases that we had wiped out years ago. I just don't trust congress or our government any more. They say one thing, but their actions don’t support their words. I’m fed up with this. Throwing money at it isn't the answer, actions are and there have been precious few of those. This bad bill will only be a magnet for more to cross the border. I am opposed to this bill from top to bottom, and there is no way they can spin it to change my mind.
At the bottom of the article about how the bill died the first time is speculation about why Republican Senators might be supporting this stinker of a bill. One “reason” given was that Republicans would shore up the Hispanic vote forever.
I am shocked by this thinking. “Takers” always vote Democrat b/c that’s where Big Government lives. Are they nuts? Republicans getting the Hispanic vote? Is this really what this awful legislation is all about?
I am surprised about McConnel. He’s usually good across the board. He wants to throw Bush a bone, but if he lets this bill through I believe he’s toast, as Rep leader. The Pubbies will get trounced in ‘08, big time and I cant believe he wants to end it this way. Spit or get off the pot, Mitch!
This article offered some needed clarity. There will be two big votes: the cloture vote, in which 60 votes are needed to invoke cloture and bring the bill to the floor, and the final vote approving the bill, which only requires a simple majority of 50 votes for it to pass. These people need to be leaned on to vote against cloture, first and foremost, because their “no” vote will count for less when only a majority is needed to pass the bill. I believe the Dems have the votes to pass the bill on the final vote. DEMAND THAT THEY VOTE AGAINST CLOTURE.
Who’d a thunk it, when they were taking history or civics class in high school, that members of the United States Senate would be plotting to find a way to SHUT OFF DEBATE about an important subject.
Cripes, Reagan got them to tear down the wall, and we’re turning into them!!
Truly a sad outcome.
What’s next? If you want to debate something they just send in the SS and shoot you?
Any thoughts on when these votes might come up? Are we talking today? next week, on the 4th of July during the fireworks display so no one will notice...?
Graham deserves getting himself into a mess for listening to a drunken Kennedy telling him to quickly grab the turd by the clean end.
Ted Kennedy’s whole constituency are the people that came here illegally that he got citizenship for.
Almost as bad as the late Minnesota politician Bruce Vento who sponsored wave after wave of SE asians and settled them in his district to ensure his lock on the Office.
Repeal the 17th amendment...go back to the way the constitution was before, and have senators appointed by the state legislatures....
No idea...Angela might know. Pinging her.
You might well be right about the July 4th date. While the rest of us are watching the fireworks, the Senate might well be preparing to set some off inside that building.
I am hopeful though. This bill might not get past cloture. They tried to ramrod it through the first time around but are under tremendous public pressure now.
Bush and Rove are doing their best to twist arms. I understand that they are threatening to withold RNC money from recaltricant senators.
Not only that, but when Republicans were in charge, there was always a statement made available by the MSM from the minority dems. Now, we still see the dems making their statements on the sNews shows but nary a peep from Republican opponents. One might get the idea the MSM has a (yellow) dog in this fight.
Ha! The irony of that is that as long as this bill is alive, there IS NO RNC MONEY!
I finally broke through the word game some senators are playing, especially Kay Hutchison (my senator). For weeks, her administrative assistants have been saying "she is against amnesty." Good.
But, wait. When I pushed back firmly yesterday to ask whether the so-called "touch-back" meant the bill didn't offer amnesty, the assistant agreed that returning to one's home country first meant S1348 was NOT amnesty and that would be the reason KBH could vote for it!!! Can you believe this?
It may be argued that the 'touch-back' provision may be 'satisfied' with a visit to a foreign embassy located WITHIN the continental USA. Such embassy premises are considered FOREIGN SOIL.
In other words, not even a real touch-back at all. STOP THIS ZOMBIE SHILL BILL NOW!
Yes, I have.
This is one of the things that disgusts me so much about the Republican congress and the party in general.
I have asked myself over the past ten years why they don’t fight the “enemy”. I have only recently understood that they ARE the enemy.
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