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1 posted on 06/20/2007 9:40:05 PM PDT by Starman417
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Why do you think that the liberal left was so insistent that Israel not go into Syria during the Lebanon war last year? One reason, IMO< is becaue thy know that unlike american politicians, the Israelis would not be afraid to find the WMDs that were moved there and would not be afraid to say so publicly.

then their lies would be exposed again.


2 posted on 06/20/2007 9:44:05 PM PDT by TBP
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To: Starman417

bump


3 posted on 06/20/2007 9:48:22 PM PDT by agincourt1415 (Fred Thompson in 08, start printing the Bumper Stickers!)
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To: M. Espinola; jveritas; elhombrelibre

The exodus from Iraq to Syria by Saddam’s allies and the highest ranking members of Saddam’s regime didn’t end on April 9th, but it was fully brought to the attention of the world when American Special Forces intercepted a Russian convoy headed into Syria.

The Russians said that the convoy was on a diplomatic mission following a convoy that carried Primakov himself.


4 posted on 06/20/2007 9:52:15 PM PDT by george76 (Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
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To: Starman417
As more and more captured documents are being released every day, why not present these documents as well? That answer will come later.

The question is ... Why isn't the media reporting more on these documents

Like the UN oil for food scandal .. they drop that story like a hot potato

5 posted on 06/20/2007 9:54:25 PM PDT by Mo1 ( http://www.gohunter08.com)
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To: Starman417
I seem to remember the UN running interference for about 6 months or so, just before the coalition went in. My memory is not what it used to be, but thats the way I remember it.
7 posted on 06/20/2007 9:58:42 PM PDT by Sparhawk (Thank You)
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thanks, bfl


9 posted on 06/20/2007 10:10:54 PM PDT by neverdem (May you be in heaven a half hour before the devil knows that you're dead.)
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To: Starman417
One wonders how differently the war in Iraq would look if American commandos had been able to seize elusive WMD and present it to the world?

I'd guess not at all. We're talking about people who ignored the oil-for-food scandal. Euros and American liberals are like the American Communists who heard from Communist friends about the terrible conditions in Stalin's Russia—and refused to believe them. They can look past anything, because the weapons aren't the point; the dashed vision of Clinton's Camelot is the point. And hating America for its own sake.

On the "Where the heck are they?" question, I find it hard to believe that no hint of WMDs has bubbled out of Syria or turned up in any al Qaeda operation since then, even as Saddam was tried and executed. So far, the explanation that holds the most water for me is that Saddam's scientists told him they had almost-working WMDs, but they were lying. Considering his record of shredding scientists, they would have been too terrified to tell him the truth.

10 posted on 06/20/2007 10:23:03 PM PDT by SamuraiScot
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To: Starman417

Many of Saddam’s former regieme members moved to Russia, of all places.


11 posted on 06/20/2007 10:23:13 PM PDT by Thunder90
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save


12 posted on 06/20/2007 11:02:53 PM PDT by Eagles6 (Dig deeper, more ammo.)
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To: Starman417

ping


13 posted on 06/20/2007 11:03:26 PM PDT by BreezyDog
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To: Starman417
Of course the WMDs went to Syria!....along with Saddam's fruits of oil for food trade scandal, including Russian, German and French weaponry. Not all of the French weaponry made it out. There were literally dozens of Frances latest generation of Surface to Air missles photographed and published by Newsweek magazine at Bagdad International as the US MArines took control of it.

The Russians, French and Germans were seeking Oil Options from Sadaam and were kneck deep in the Oil for Food Scandal. The WMDs and other weapons were Oil for Food gravy demanded by Sadaam. Why do you think President Bush invaded WHEN he did? He had all the intelligence on Russian, German, and France's activities, and knew that if he waited longer to act, then Iraq would have been a bastion Bristling with Euro-weaponry.

Why were the French, Russian and German governments so bent on wooing Sadaam? They wanted to diminish the US presence in the ME to the point that the Euro would supplant the US dollar as the world accepted currency for the International Oil trade. They failed, thanks to GW Bush.And our economy booms, but for how much longer thanks to the liberal socialist moonbat Democrats who are still in Utopian denial?

It will be years before this truth comes out as intelligence documents are released decades from now. They will show that the Oil for Food scandal, and the complicity of the UN's Khofi Annan CAUSED the conditions which required US intervention in Iraq.

WMDs went to Syria? You bet they did. President Bush caught the Europeans with their pants down, and Putin is still smarting over it.

Many of the conventional weapons from the Europeans were left behing while the WMDs were hustled out to Syria.

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http://www.newsmax.com/archives/articles/2003/10/22/154815.shtml

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Photos Prove Iraq Violated U.N. Weapons Ban

Charles R. Smith

Thursday, Oct. 23, 2003

French Weapons Dated 2001

Below: French Roland Missile in Iraq, Vintage 2001 French Arsenal

Photo Sharing and Video Hosting at Photobucket Below: French Bomb Ordnance In Iraq, 2001 French Arsenal Photo Sharing and Video Hosting at Photobucket NewsMax has obtained exclusive photographs proving that Iraq violated a U.N. Security Council ban on importing weapons. The photographs show a wide variety of imported weapons with production dates as recent as 2001.

A U.S. military inspection team that visited an Iraqi air force munitions site in late September 2003 took the photographs. The site, located in the Suni triangle near Baghdad, has at least 13 concrete bunkers filled with missiles, bombs and bomb-fusing devices.

U.S. military teams uncovered several examples of U.N. violations, including a number of French bomb fuses with a production date of "2001-Sep-5."

The French-made aerial bomb fuses had documentation noting that the devices were produced in 2001. The French bomb fuses were stored in a box stating the manufacture date was 1985 in an apparent effort to mislead U.N. and U.S. inspectors.

Cluster Bombs

Another series of photos shows that U.S. inspection teams discovered a cache of South African CB470 cluster bombs. According to the declaration made in November 2002 by Saddam Hussein, Iraq had no such weapons.

Saddam denied that he had cluster bombs but U.S. State Department photos prior to Operation Iraqi Freedom showed that Iraqi Air Force engineers were working on modifying conventional cluster bombs into chemical weapons.

Cluster bombs carry a large number of "bomblets" or "sub-munitions," small, softball-sized grenades that separate from the main bomb unit. The falling bomblets then shower a large area with explosions.

Cluster bomb technology can be adapted to chemical or biological warfare by replacing the conventional explosive submunitions with biotoxin-armed bomblets.

Russian Bombs

Another example was a large quantity of KMG-U cluster bomb dispensers developed in Russia by the Spetztekhnika Vympel NPO in Moscow and manufactured by Bazalt State Research and Production Enterprise.

The Iraqi KMG-U dispensers were armed with the PTAB2.5 anti-tank bomblets and AO2.5 bomblets. According to the Russian manufacturer, the KMG-U dispenser and submunitions were not available for export until 1993. However, there are no reported export sales.

The U.S. teams also found fully active Russian-made AA-8 air-to-air missiles, French-made Durandal anti-runway rocket bombs, Russian anti-personnel cluster bomblets and huge quantities of unguided rockets. Many of the munitions were piled into large heaps or simply scattered over the open countryside.

The condition of the find illustrates the huge task faced by U.S. forces as they try to disarm Iraq. Saddam loyalists could easily obtain and use the munitions found lying in the open desert against American forces.

Moreover, the discrepancies between documentation, box markings and actual items found show that an intentional effort was made by Iraqi troops to mislead U.N. inspection teams. In some cases false shipping documents written in English were discovered with the weapons.

In addition, the effort to find chemical or biological weapons is being hampered by the vast quantity of conventional munitions stored in dangerous conditions. The Iraqi army was well-known for storing chemical weapons with its conventional explosives.

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You can get a complete history of the linked news articles on the European weapons trade contrary to UN sanctions ( bogus sanctions ) from this page:

http://www.softwar.net/iraq.html

The Russians, French and Germans wanted Sadaam dead more than anyone. They were afraid he would sing. Too bad he did not. Then we would know the full WMD story from the lips of one they damned.

14 posted on 06/20/2007 11:25:54 PM PDT by Candor7
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Thank you for the behind-the-scenes look at international intrigue involving Bio-Chemical Weapons potentially in the hands of Islamofascists worldwide. However, anyone claiming to have the inside dope on “all” such shenanigans is a fool and a dangerous one at that.

I have reason to believe that not only “known” stockpiles are being actively traded and transported, but that ongoing “illegal” research and development is going on in a number of locations, including right here at home. It’s worth pondering how these things came into being in the first place, who wants them, and why.

If you would like some concrete information on how the U.S. came to be one of the major manufacturers of such items, go here:

http://www.freedominion.ca/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=14556

If you don’t believe what is posted there, then go here:

http://www1.va.gov/SHAD/


16 posted on 06/21/2007 1:37:04 AM PDT by JB in Whitefish
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