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To: Starman417

Thank you for the behind-the-scenes look at international intrigue involving Bio-Chemical Weapons potentially in the hands of Islamofascists worldwide. However, anyone claiming to have the inside dope on “all” such shenanigans is a fool and a dangerous one at that.

I have reason to believe that not only “known” stockpiles are being actively traded and transported, but that ongoing “illegal” research and development is going on in a number of locations, including right here at home. It’s worth pondering how these things came into being in the first place, who wants them, and why.

If you would like some concrete information on how the U.S. came to be one of the major manufacturers of such items, go here:

http://www.freedominion.ca/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=14556

If you don’t believe what is posted there, then go here:

http://www1.va.gov/SHAD/


16 posted on 06/21/2007 1:37:04 AM PDT by JB in Whitefish
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To: JB in Whitefish

During the Cold War, the Soviet never gave up their chemical or biological weapon development ambitions.

It’s called the Cold War. Your ship was in operation from 1962 - 1972.

“The Biological Weapons Convention (BWC) was drafted in 1972 and entered into force 3 years later, in 1975”

http://www.cdi.org/issues/cbw/bwc.html

Chemical Weapons Convention was signed in Jan 1993 and in forced by April 1997.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chemical_Weapons_Convention

Remember many people who went into bootcamp were still being drilled about NBC attacks during the Cold War because we thought the Soviet’s didn’t give up their NBC.

I’m glad all the Nations signed those BCW Convention because they’re so evil.

This is what the Soviets did during the Cold War.
And we worry about the Koyoto Treaty today and the United States is the worst pollutors!

We clean up our mess.
We have a well informed public.
We are more aware about pollution and chemical hazards.

Our Ecology Movement started in the 1960’s while the Soviets started during Gorbachev’s Glasnost in the 1980’s.

The Soviet Regime was a closed society and they had several ecological disasters unknown to their populace more than that SHAD ship your talking about.

http://www.worldandi.com/specialreport/1997/May/Sa16204.htm

Soviet Union Anatomy of a Catastrophe
http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,962199,00.html

LETHAL LEGACY : POLLUTION IN THE FORMER USSR
http://www.gerdludwig.com/html/stories_soviet_synopsis.html

Soviets became eco friendly during Gorbachev Era. http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,969282,00.html

Nuclear dumping at sea including submarines.
Secret Cities (Military Industrial Sites) and Chemical Disposal. Dumping into Aral Sea.

http://www.okno.com/ewltr/archive/vol4/ecodisas.pdf

1957

Ural Mountains Nuclear Waste and Explosion

http://www.american.edu/projects/mandala/TED/URAL.HTM

1979 Sverdlovsk’s Outbreak. Military Industrial Complex accidently release Anthrax.

http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/shows/plague/sverdlovsk/

The Pavlodar CW Plant in Kazakhstan. Chemical Waste Land.
http://www.cns.miis.edu/pubs/npr/vol07/72/72bozh.pdf

MERCURY POLLUTION AT PAVLODAR CHEMICAL PLANT
http://bisnis.doc.gov/bisnis/isa/011105KazChem.htm

http://www.factmonster.com/ipka/A0001457.html

Ural Sea Drying up....Ecological Disaster.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/asia-pacific/678898.stm

Update http://discovermagazine.com/2006/sep/returnaralsea/

The Drying Ural Sea includes Vozrozhdeniye Island. It was the Soviet’s Anthrax Test site.

US Agrees to Clean Up Anthrax

October 23, 2001 | Judith Miller

he United States has signed an agreement with Uzbekistan to remove deadly anthrax from a remote island in the Aral Sea where the Soviet Union dumped tons of lethal spores, Bush administration and Uzbek officials said yesterday.”

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/fr/554821/posts

Don’t forget the Soviet Subs exposing their personal to large doses to Nulcear Radiation.

If your trying to imply the United States gave Saddam chemical weapons I think your mistaken because there is a world market out there to buy chemical and biological technologies. United States does not have a monopoly on chemical and biological technologies.

As I remember right the United Nations didn’t put sanctions against Saddam Hussein in 1988. The only thing they wanted from the world community is to limit the sale of chemcials and biological agents.

S/RES/0620 (1988)
26 August 1988
http://www.au.af.mil/au/awc/awcgate/un/res0620.htm

Most countries use chemicals and biological agents in a peaceful ways like to protect their crops and lifestock. Most countries don’t commit mass murder by weaponizing dangerous chemicals.

Many of those Iraqi scientist went to the United States, Europe and to the Soviet Union to get higher education. Are we going to arrest all the professors for being Genocide enablers?


27 posted on 06/21/2007 11:25:02 AM PDT by Milligan
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To: JB in Whitefish

Please except my apolgy. Don’t take me for disrespecting your service in the United States Navy. Those threats were very real and people got hurt handling those terrible weapons.

We know more about Chemical Hazards now.

My Dad worked in a paper mill back during the 1960’s and he developed emphysema.

His doctor told him to give up smoking but never told him to give up his occupation.

All those solvents used to break down all those rags also affected his lungs. All his co workers were developing lung dieases associated with handling those chemicals.

No one thought to wear protective gear during that time. It wasn’t required until OSHA was created in 1970 by that time my Dad was disabled.


28 posted on 06/21/2007 12:36:02 PM PDT by Milligan
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