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Oy, my head hurts. But my heart hurts worse.

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1 posted on 06/20/2007 8:58:10 PM PDT by Mr. Silverback
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2 posted on 06/20/2007 8:59:07 PM PDT by Mr. Silverback (A pacifist sees no distinction between the arsonist and the fireman--Freeper ccmay)
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Most of you are Christians; all of you know where relativism has gotten us. Don't miss this one.
3 posted on 06/20/2007 9:00:08 PM PDT by Mr. Silverback (A pacifist sees no distinction between the arsonist and the fireman--Freeper ccmay)
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It's deeply ingrained. I have known many Christians who believed that God is love, and therefore it is wrong to be judgmental. Homosexuality? Who are we to say that it's wrong? Wicca rituals? Let's not be the first to cast a stone!

For me, caring about others means being judgmental and helping people get on to the right path, and telling them when they are on the wrong path.

4 posted on 06/20/2007 9:09:57 PM PDT by ClearCase_guy (Enoch Powell was right.)
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As long as the kids themselves think Christianity is true what’s the problem? The Catholic Church used to teach that it was the ONE TRUE CHURCH. Well that offended a lot of people so it was changed to the Catholic Church teaches the FULLNESS OF TRUTH. That is, other religions have some truth but we have the most there is to be had. So the kids can just say Christianity contains the “fullness of truth.” If the kids are uncomfortable with that, then why the heck are they even Christians at all?


5 posted on 06/20/2007 9:13:16 PM PDT by Hound of the Baskervilles ("Nonsense in the intellect draws evil after it." C.S. Lewis)
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"The students went nuts. All but one of the eight leaders completely balked at the concept of distinguishing Christianity as true and other religions as false"

Sound like good Buddhists to me. Oh, wait a minute.
6 posted on 06/20/2007 9:16:39 PM PDT by ndt
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“One young lady had met with her pastor, who told her no one can be sure of truth”

If someone stabs another person, and that person dies, it is murder. That is the TRUTH.


7 posted on 06/20/2007 9:35:16 PM PDT by stephenjohnbanker ( Hunter/Thompson/Thompson/Hunter in 08! "Read my lips....No new RINO's" !!)
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Lesson 10 leads the kids through a series of choices to learn to recognize the difference between matters of truth and matters of taste.

Speaking of truth, meatball is the only acceptable pizza topping. Pepperoni, mushroom, sausage, and the like, are sins. This is such an obvious truth that no further explanation is required, because we meatball-topping-pizza-eaters have a monopoly on all truth. Anyone who believes otherwise is a relativist headed down the wrong path, and has no business being out in public trying to sell us normal folk on their evil toppings. We must teach...no, instill...no, wait, ram this down the throats of our children or we will all perish!

8 posted on 06/20/2007 9:36:06 PM PDT by Freedom_no_exceptions (No actual, intended, or imminent victim = no crime. No exceptions.)
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“All but one of the eight leaders completely balked at the concept of distinguishing Christianity as true and other religions as false.” “

Some “leaders”


9 posted on 06/20/2007 9:40:52 PM PDT by stephenjohnbanker ( Hunter/Thompson/Thompson/Hunter in 08! "Read my lips....No new RINO's" !!)
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Less than 10% of Americans who call themselves Christian possesses a Biblical worldview.

Which means:

More than 90% of Americans who call themselves Christian do not possess a Biblical worldview.

2/3 of Born Again Christians assert that there are no absolute moral truths.
What does that mean? Sin really doesn’t exist.
Ergo – Redemption was not really necessary
Ergo – Christ died for nothing
Begs the question – Why the need to be Born Again?

4 out of 10 say they are “absolutely committed to the faith”.

44% of churched youths agree with this statement: “Humans are capable of grasping the meaning of truth”.

85% of churched youth agree with this statement: “What is right for a person in a certain situation may not be right for another person in the same situation”.
(Relativism and situational ethics)

62% of churched youth agree that: “Nothing can be known for certain except that which is experienced in your life”.

Why I believe the Bible and have a Biblical worldview:

“I choose to believe the Bible because it’s a reliable collection of historical documents written by eyewitnesses during the lifetime of other eyewitnesses that report supernatural events that took place in fulfillment of specific prophecies and claim that their origins are divine rather than human in origin.” Dr. Voddie Baucham


19 posted on 06/20/2007 10:03:40 PM PDT by uptoolate (How can a Holy, Righteous, and Just God NOT kill me for what I said, thought and did yesterday)
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SITREP


22 posted on 06/20/2007 10:10:01 PM PDT by LiteKeeper (Beware the secularization of America; the Islamization of Eurabia)
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Excellent post; thanks!


43 posted on 06/20/2007 11:18:52 PM PDT by Albion Wilde ( “A nation without borders is not a nation.” —Ronald Reagan)
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I think many are only “cultural Christians.” They celebrate the holidays and accept the Judeo Christian sense of right and wrong. They aren’t quite sure that everything in the bible is really true or relevant.


48 posted on 06/21/2007 12:59:13 AM PDT by marsh2
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I had a conversation with someone recently (a 30 year old woman) who had no religious upbringing. But, she was telling me all about how she believes “a little of this” and “a little of that.” Basically, she takes what she wants from different religions and makes up the rest. Then she teaches it to her son. Well, I gently pointed out to her that those religions that she was picking and choosing from were in direct contradiction with each other and that it really was not possible to take what you want from a particular religion and mix it with another since the individual religions don’t allow for that. Then, for an example, I told her that Jesus said, “I am the way, the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father but through me” and she was stunned. “HE SAID THAT???” She didn’t know that and was very surprised. I told her that you can’t be a Christian and believe that other religions are valid. You should have seen the lightbulbs go off in her head.


54 posted on 06/21/2007 3:56:38 AM PDT by cantfindagoodscreenname (Is it OK to steal tag lines from tee-shirts and bumper stickers?)
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This is an excellent commentary by Chuck Colson!

55 posted on 06/21/2007 4:41:18 AM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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One of the choices, “believing Islam, Buddhism or Christianity,” flashed on the screen. Our Centurion—I’ll call her Joanne, told me what happened next: “The students went nuts. All but one of the eight leaders completely balked at the concept of distinguishing Christianity as true and other religions as false.”

Mission accomplished. Who says schooling doesn't work?

Twenty years ago, college professor Alan Bloom wrote, in The Closing of the American Mind, "the only belief that entering freshman hold in common is that there is no such thing as absolute truth." (Great line, mediocre book)

59 posted on 06/21/2007 6:21:32 AM PDT by Aquinasfan (When you find "Sola Scriptura" in the Bible, let me know)
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60 posted on 06/21/2007 6:43:06 AM PDT by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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86 posted on 06/21/2007 9:46:31 AM PDT by tutstar (Baptist Ping list - freepmail me to get on or off.)
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We can’t stand idly by while relativism undermines the faith of our kids and robs them of the one sure hope they have—and desperately need. Friends, if this story gets to you like it gets to me, it’s time we got busy.

Evil triumphs when good people do nothing.
89 posted on 06/21/2007 10:43:09 AM PDT by JamesP81 (Romans 10:9)
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“I was dismayed a while back when I learned that a Barna survey found that “less than one out of every ten churched teenagers has a biblical worldview.”

Pffft! What rock have you been living under?


107 posted on 06/21/2007 3:39:00 PM PDT by WKUHilltopper
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To a liberal, I’m narrow minded because I believe in the effects of gravity.


141 posted on 06/23/2007 6:40:32 AM PDT by G Larry (Only strict constructionists on the Supreme Court!)
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