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Putin rallies Third World to go it alone
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/money/main.jhtml?xml=/money/2007/06/17/ccliam217.xml ^ | 16/06/2007 | Editorial

Posted on 06/19/2007 4:58:05 AM PDT by RusIvan

Never one to mince words, Vladimir Putin last week attacked the World Bank, the International Monetary Fund and the World Trade Organisation.

At a ritzy business summit in St Petersburg - the biggest since communism collapsed - the Russian President dismissed the Western-dominated multilateral bodies, set up 50 years ago, as "archaic, awkward and undemocratic".

advertisement By urging developing countries to consider new forums for economic cooperation - independent of America, the EU and Japan - Putin tapped into deep seams of resentment, built up over generations, in capital cities from Bogota to Beijing.

The ex-KGB judo champion, as ever, picked his moment well. The World Bank is reeling, with the White House refusing even to consider that a non-American might for once be chosen as boss, after Bush groupie Paul Wolfowitz was forced to resign. The IMF, too, has lost its way - being attacked by Joseph Stiglitz, the Nobel-Prize winning US economist, as "appalling" and "the cause of great economic damage".

Until recently, developing countries secured serious inward investment only if the IMF, hands firmly on the policy levers, gave a thumbs-up to the outside world.

No longer. And by making that point in St Petersburg - surrounded by thousands of salivating foreign business types who don't care what the IMF says - Putin's words rang true.

(Excerpt) Read more at telegraph.co.uk ...


TOPICS: Extended News; Foreign Affairs; Russia
KEYWORDS: coldwar2; communism; putin; russia; sovietunion; ussr
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1 posted on 06/19/2007 4:58:09 AM PDT by RusIvan
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To: skraut; Atlantic Bridge; vox_PL; Thunder90; eleni121; stefan10; M. Espinola

ping


2 posted on 06/19/2007 5:01:43 AM PDT by RusIvan (Western MSM zombies the western publics.)
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To: RusIvan

this is one thing on which Putin and I see eye-to-eye...


3 posted on 06/19/2007 5:20:22 AM PDT by cinives (On some planets what I do is considered normal.)
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To: RusIvan
Look at the history of each of these organizations, or their precursors. They were products of American generosity and desire to help other, less developed, nations. For decades, Americans have shared their wealth with nations considered less blessed.

Tell me, Mr. Putnin, what EXACTLY has the old Soviet Union, or Russian people done to help other people in the world better their living condition? And, selling nuclear material and bombs for destruction of the West does not count as aid. Well, Puty??

4 posted on 06/19/2007 5:40:07 AM PDT by Obadiah
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To: Obadiah

Oh be fair. Look at the paradise the USSR helped to create on the island of Cuba.


5 posted on 06/19/2007 6:30:22 AM PDT by agere_contra
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To: RusIvan
He just wants WTO membership and all trade barriers dropped so the west can be sucked completely dry in just a few years.
6 posted on 06/19/2007 7:09:19 AM PDT by Realism (Some believe that the facts-of-life are open to debate.....)
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To: RusIvan

Pootie Poot is a communist. This shows it.


7 posted on 06/19/2007 8:03:17 AM PDT by Thunder90
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To: lizol; Lukasz; strategofr; GSlob; spanalot; Thunder90; Tailgunner Joe; propertius; REactor; ...
Russia/Soviet/Coldwar2 PING!!!

To be added or removed from the list, please FReepmail me!!!

8 posted on 06/19/2007 8:05:19 AM PDT by Thunder90
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To: RusIvan

That is what you get, when you try to intimidate a( still)major world power. The UDSSR is gone. I don`t know, why it should be necessary to set up a military basis close to Russia or tread them as adversary in economic trade matters, when Putin just tries to play the usual free market games everybody does here in the West. The Russian people had a rough and horrible 20th century caused by Commies and Nazis. We should give them more time, involve them economically and get off our moral high ground. Rom wasn’t built in one day either!


10 posted on 06/19/2007 8:16:48 AM PDT by skraut
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To: Obadiah

“Tell me, Mr. Putnin, what EXACTLY has the old Soviet Union, or Russian people done to help other people in the world better their living condition”

They killed 100 million and made more room for Oligarch types.


11 posted on 06/19/2007 8:19:20 AM PDT by spanalot
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“We should give them more time,”

To do what? Kill more journalists?

Shut down more of the internet?

Freeze Europe again?

Assassinate more Ukrainian Presidents?

Sell more nukes to the Muslims?


12 posted on 06/19/2007 8:21:50 AM PDT by spanalot
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To: spanalot

‘’
To do what? Kill more journalists?
Shut down more of the internet?
Freeze Europe again?
Assassinate more Ukrainian Presidents?
Sell more nukes to the Muslims? ‘’

As long as they partake in the western economy and are somehow part of it, you can try to talk/negotiate and improve things. Once they have started to set up their own clubs - i.e. like this one - things will be much more difficult to handle.
I firmly believe that it is major mistake to create an additional adversary in a possibly upcoming, major clash, no matter if it is triggered by cultural reasons ( Muslim or Chinese) or scarcity of resources or a mixture of it.
In any case, we ( the West) would be well advised to have them on our side. Just my 2 cents..


13 posted on 06/19/2007 8:57:18 AM PDT by skraut
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To: RusIvan

the Russian President dismissed the Western-dominated multilateral bodies, set up 50 years ago, as "archaic, awkward and undemocratic".

It sounds like he just described Russia more than the West...

14 posted on 06/19/2007 10:12:08 AM PDT by G8 Diplomat (Does the US in post-Clinton days count as an ex-Soviet nation?)
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To: skraut

We still call the tune in this world.

1) Open up the strategic oil reserves and bankrupt Russia.

2) Boycott China

3) Nuke Pakistan and Iran

4) Send Europe the bill.

Problems solved.


15 posted on 06/19/2007 12:17:17 PM PDT by spanalot
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To: G8 Diplomat

A common tactic - straight from Propaganda 101.


16 posted on 06/19/2007 12:18:09 PM PDT by spanalot
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To: RusIvan

The third world will go its own way. Russia, the second world what’s left of it, will wave goodbye, possibly offer an excellent deal on a submarine.


17 posted on 06/19/2007 12:21:17 PM PDT by RightWhale (Repeal the Treaty)
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To: spanalot

‘’ We still call the tune in this world ‘’

I have no problem with this, especially when considering possible alternatives !

‘’1)Open up the strategic oil reserves and bankrupt Russia.
2) Boycott China
3) Nuke Pakistan and Iran
4) Send Europe the bill.
Problems solved. ‘’

I’m afraid it won’t be that easy!!


18 posted on 06/19/2007 2:37:06 PM PDT by skraut
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To: RusIvan
Sounds like Ivan wants to get into the loansharking business at the nation level.

Stiff the IMF ... big deal.

Stiff the Russian banks .... they collect with tanks and nukes.

19 posted on 06/19/2007 3:43:51 PM PDT by Centurion2000 (Killing all of your enemies without mercy is the only sure way of sleeping soundly at night.)
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To: spanalot; Thunder90; agere_contra
Another listing for the Putin weapons systems to Communist & Islamic dictatorships.

Russians subs for Hugo.

KGB Putin has been awarded with anti-prize for “Destruction of free media”

From the Kremlin controlled press:

"We Should Beg Him on Our Knees to Run the State"

Putin Is God's Gift

20 posted on 06/19/2007 3:56:18 PM PDT by M. Espinola (Freedom is never free)
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