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Summer of love: 40 years later - Hippie Hippie Shakedown: But where was love?
DailyNews.com ^ | 06/16/2007 | DAWN EDEN

Posted on 06/17/2007 12:07:44 PM PDT by DogByte6RER

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To: DogByte6RER
But where was love?

In the same token, where were the multiple, daily drive by shootings? Millions of illegal aliens, and organized gangs? Today we have Manson style brutal murders weekly, not to mention senseless mass murders of students, work place shootings etc, sky scrapers being leveled etc.

Don't know about you, but I'd take what we had in the 60s any day.

21 posted on 06/17/2007 2:29:42 PM PDT by dragnet2
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To: dragnet2

The sixties sucked but kids could still play outside without guard towers.


22 posted on 06/17/2007 2:34:17 PM PDT by wtc911 ("How you gonna get back down that hill?")
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To: wtc911
kids could still play outside without guard towers.

Yeah, without worrying about some twisted nutcase kidnapping them and cutting them up into pieces.

I remember playing outside on summer nights at 6 years old, with no adults around. Shooting BB guns and pellet rifles in the neighborhood with out the police and swat being called.

23 posted on 06/17/2007 2:38:23 PM PDT by dragnet2
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To: DogByte6RER

Good article! I was in SF that summer and what I saw was appalling. I remember that one poor girl was raped to death in a bathtub by druggies in the Haight; the streets were filled with middle class kids strung out on whatever, begging and prostituting themselves, and it was virtually an everyday thing to see somebody on a bad trip trying to jump off a roof.

But I beg to differ. The Greatest Generation may have been the earlier crop of those who were drafted and fought in WWII, but the really creepy theory behind all of these things - ranging from drug use to total sexual chaos - came from people who were older than the young people of the 60s - that is, members of the “Greatest Generation.”

Timothy Leary was not a teenager; neither were any of the horrible Marxist philosophers who corrupted American education. Many of them were left-wing Europeans who had come here prior to WWII, but they were received with great joy by American universities, and the younger faculty adopted all of their positions. This includes members of the “Greatest Generation” who had come home and gone through school on the GI Bill and were teaching teenagers in the late 50s and early 60s. That was where I heard most of the garbage I heard at that time: from the “Greatest Generation.”


24 posted on 06/17/2007 2:42:01 PM PDT by livius
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but the really creepy theory behind all of these things - ranging from drug use to total sexual chaos - came from people who were older than the young people of the 60s - that is, members of the “Greatest Generation.”

Charles Manson was well into his mid-30s when his "family" committed the Tate/LaBianca murders.

I think he was born in 1934 or '35.

25 posted on 06/17/2007 2:46:47 PM PDT by Drew68
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Don't know about you, but I'd take what we had in the 60s any day.

Of course, it could be argued that today's social pathologies you mentioned are a direct result of the permissive attitudes of the 1960s.

26 posted on 06/17/2007 2:49:15 PM PDT by Drew68
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To: DogByte6RER

Where was the “love?”

Love?

Think, “crotch.”

Which, is apparently where it remains, to this day.


27 posted on 06/17/2007 2:50:33 PM PDT by unspun (What do you think? Please think, before you answer.)
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To: livius
I was in SF that summer and what I saw was appalling. I remember that one poor girl was raped to death in a bathtub by druggies in the Haight

LOL! This was not the norm. Today we have middle class house wifes downing their 5 kids in the bath tub. We have daily drive by brutal shootings in every city in America. Daily!

It is so common in todays America, it don't even make the freaking news unless 30 people are murdered at one time. Every week we read about insane, brutal murders and almost monthly work place, and school mass shootings etc.

Again, I'd take what we had in the 60s any day over what we are left with today.

Would you even think of letting your 7 year old girl play outside with other little kids, after dark in the summer time in todays America? I think not.

28 posted on 06/17/2007 2:51:21 PM PDT by dragnet2
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To: DogByte6RER

Well, it was the “greatest generation” (an invention of the Lib Tom Brokaw) that brought us 70% top marginal tax rates, the postwar welfare state, and an overregulated economy. Otherwise, I see your point...


29 posted on 06/17/2007 2:52:37 PM PDT by Clemenza (Rudy Giuliani, like Pesto and Seattle, belongs in the scrap heap of '90s Culture)
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To: DogByte6RER

“Today, the counterculture’s victims are dying with few children to mourn them...”

Well, the city of Boulder is trying their best to pass on the ideas of experimenting with sex and drugs.


30 posted on 06/17/2007 2:53:04 PM PDT by geopyg (Don't wish for peace, pray for Victory.)
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To: Drew68

Of course, blame what is happening today on the 60s. Even though the 60s were completely innocent compared to the nightmarish violence of today.


31 posted on 06/17/2007 2:54:12 PM PDT by dragnet2
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To: DogByte6RER
Supporters of the hippies' objectives argue that they and future generations benefited from the dismantling of repressive Eisenhower-era values that restricted sex to marriage.

Written by some one who obviously wasn't alive during the fifties. It would be funny if it weren't so naive.

32 posted on 06/17/2007 2:56:20 PM PDT by metesky ("Brethren, leave us go amongst them." Rev. Capt. Samuel Johnston Clayton - Ward Bond- The Searchers)
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Well, it was the “greatest generation” (an invention of the Lib Tom Brokaw) that brought us 70% top marginal tax rates, the postwar welfare state, and an overregulated economy.

Not too surprising. The "Greatest Generation" was, on the whole, raised on the gospel according to St FDR. Given that we should be grateful that we didn't go completely Communist.

33 posted on 06/17/2007 3:00:32 PM PDT by surely_you_jest (I don't make jokes. I just watch the government and report the facts. - Will Rogers)
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To: Drew68
I remember in the 50s and 60s people for the most part would punch each other senseless if push came to shove. Now? LOL! You got neighbors blowing each others brains out over stupid issues and minor disputes.

And don't even think of mouthing off to another driver today. It could very well escalate into a chase, ending brutal murder.

34 posted on 06/17/2007 3:02:30 PM PDT by dragnet2
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To: Drew68

All of the people who are considered the “founders” of the hippie movement were born well before it - even people such as Kerouac, the odious Alan Ginsberg, etc.


35 posted on 06/17/2007 3:02:42 PM PDT by livius
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To: dragnet2

Things have definitely gotten worse, because the 60s were the beginning of something very evil, on many levels. But the point I was making is that the people who made this happen in the 60s - that is, the people who were preaching the “if it feels good, do it” mantra - were not the teenagers who actually did it, but older people from the earlier generation.


36 posted on 06/17/2007 3:05:30 PM PDT by livius
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Of course, blame what is happening today on the 60s. Even though the 60s were completely innocent compared to the nightmarish violence of today.

The 60s were relatively peaceful because they were still under the umbrella of societal values that promote such peace. It was all the hippie leftists who broke down those values, directly leading to one of the worst social pathologies of today - fatherless children. Those fatherless children are the ones doing the drive-bys.

Marxists and hippies are a virus on society, an auto-immune disorder. Get rid of them and their philosophy that there is no right and wrong, and society can be rebuilt into something stable.
37 posted on 06/17/2007 3:13:40 PM PDT by fr_freak
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To: livius
Things have definitely gotten worse

No kidding. But to blame it on the 60s, where it innocent compared to what is happening *now* is not a good comparison.

I never even heard of a "drive by" in the 60s for Gods sake.

As a matter of fact, the word "drive by" never even surfaced until almost 30 years later. Look at just what occurred in Kansas when the young lady went to Walmart for a purchase. She ended up kidnapped, raped and murdered by some 26 year old. This is so common now, it's bizarre and disgusting.

38 posted on 06/17/2007 3:15:24 PM PDT by dragnet2
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Of course, it could be argued that today's social pathologies you mentioned are a direct result of the permissive attitudes of the 1960s.

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If you want to argue this then you must also acknowlege that most boomers were in grade school during the sixties and even the leading edge minority couldn't even vote until 1968. No boomers held elected office in the sixties. No boomers ran corporations or media in the sixties. Many boomers died in Viet Nam in the sixties.

This mess falls at the feet of pre-boomers and that my friend is your greatest generation.

39 posted on 06/17/2007 3:18:04 PM PDT by wtc911 ("How you gonna get back down that hill?")
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To: dragnet2

I agree. But I think it’s an effect of things that happened decades ago.

We have had 40+ years of people seeing garbage on TV, being told that morality and decency are jokes, and actually getting big book contracts for being the most hideous mass killer in jail.

This all came out of an earlier mindset. It started in the late 60s, but it was not started by teenagers: it was started by their parents, the children of the 20s and 30s.


40 posted on 06/17/2007 3:20:04 PM PDT by livius
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