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Giant Sucking Sound: New Free Republic Third Party?
June 16, 2007 | Vanity

Posted on 06/16/2007 4:26:37 PM PDT by Frobenius

Hear that giant sucking sound -- It is the sound of a rapidly growing political vacuum on the Right in this country...

Free Republic is an amazing resource with many thousands of members.

Why not harness that resource and start our own third party with *REAL* conservative principles.

The Republican Party may have left a lot of us recently - but that does not necessarily mean that we have to leave our conservative principles.

Out of this large principled group, there has to be someone that is able to create a new party and make it a new force in national politics.

Qualifications: REAL conservative; Clean background; and the ability to clearly Communicate ideas to the American people.

Any takers?? You would have the beginnings of an organization with thousands of volunteers already in place in every state of the Union.


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KEYWORDS: amnesty; giantsuckingsound; presidenthillary; thirdparty
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To: HungarianGypsy

I agree, and I come from one of many states who’s Republicans are RINO’s, and the Socialists run uncontested. I think it is time we put faith in our fellow conservative Americans, and not in the government, and vote are conciences. There are a few Dems who are conservative, very few. Somehow we have to get conservatives to run and contest those of both parties who are not! To me that is a huge part of the problem, we are given conservatives to vote for! For one thing, we need to take the process back from the media!!


101 posted on 06/16/2007 7:54:20 PM PDT by gidget7 (2Th 2:11 And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie:)
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To: JoeA
"We need a new country."

Something very similar was proposed, and followed through on, in the last couple of years.

Called "Free State Project".

It was greeted with disdain by many Freepers, I never figured out why.

They selected New Hampshire, only reason I didn't participate; just too damned many liberals with money to overcome. Made the goals seem unreachable.

102 posted on 06/16/2007 8:04:21 PM PDT by diogenes ghost
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To: Frobenius

Golly, I heard this idea before somewhere. Now where...where??? It’ll come to me, I know it will.


103 posted on 06/16/2007 8:07:18 PM PDT by TAdams8591 ( Guilaini is a Democrat in Republican drag. Mitt Romney for president in 2008! : ))
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To: Frobenius

We don’t need to abandon the GOP ship. We just need to throw the pirates overboard by not paying a dime to any level GOP organization until we force new leadership into place.

For now, bail and pray. DON’T ABANDON SHIP!


104 posted on 06/16/2007 8:14:54 PM PDT by The Spirit Of Allegiance (Public Employees: Honor Your Oaths! Defend the Constitution from Enemies--Foreign and Domestic!)
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To: DCPatriot

I’ve never seen that before, that is hilarious.


105 posted on 06/16/2007 8:15:33 PM PDT by LivingNet
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To: SoCalPol
One of the benefits of living in a large city and county of over 3 million people, you see reality.

What a pretentious, arrogant and stupid statement.

You look out your window on the "reality" of people living on top of one another like insects. You see the crime and filth of the third world taking over your environment. You see the exhibition of people dressing and acting stupid to draw attention to themselves rather than accomplishing that by the fruits of their hard work.

I look out my window on a forested lake often with a Bald Eagle soaring over the spring water. The colorful exhibition I see is of beautiful birds and wildflowers, not some pierced, tattooed freak.

We are both looking at "reality" I suppose, but I would not be as passionate in defending my rights if it only meant living in the reality of "a large city and a county of over 3 million".

Think of how many of Americas great leaders came from "big cities" as compared to smaller towns. Big cities just don't seem that beneficial to "seeing reality". As far as "limited knowledge" goes, your post would seem to prove the point that knowledge certainly has little to do with a persons home town population.

Keep your parochial opinions and limited abilities, us poor rural folks will somehow muddle through without the "view" of those mean city streets.

106 posted on 06/16/2007 8:16:26 PM PDT by Prokopton
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To: lowbridge

Too late, I already wrote-in DRAWBRIDGE on my ballot. Sorry.


107 posted on 06/16/2007 8:17:44 PM PDT by The Spirit Of Allegiance (Public Employees: Honor Your Oaths! Defend the Constitution from Enemies--Foreign and Domestic!)
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To: BlessedBeGod; Registered
Oh swell. Another Ross Perot debacle.

Can we get Registered to make all the charts & graphs?

108 posted on 06/16/2007 8:18:23 PM PDT by uglybiker (relaxing in a luxuriant cloud of quality, aromatic, pre-owned tobacco essence)
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To: Frobenius
"Giant Sucking Sound"

I'll say....

109 posted on 06/16/2007 8:21:49 PM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: Frobenius
I think it's kind of a leap too far to be thinking third party.

A question to ask first might be, how on earth does the Repub party end up nominating so many turkeys to the Senate and House, governors, and so on. Where do these turkeys get their funding? These guys are the best we got? In their entire states? Specter? Hagel? McCain? Lott?

My guess is, there is some kind of weird fix going on within the party, at a very high level. Look at the example of Pres. Bush backing Specter over Toomey. That was a really weird, weird fix. The claim of "going with the guy who has seniority" does not even begin to explain it. Specter has never been reliable or even sane.

And I doubt that this is something that can be solved by "giving more money" or "getting more involved." Ordinary people will never have the means to even remotely approach the level of inside-the-empire access to find out the stuff that drives a decision such as to throw Presidential weight behind a Specter instead of a Toomey, that kind of a fix. We'll just never have any idea of what goes into it, we just have our faces pressed up against the glass, trying to figure out what's going on in the Big Massa's house, but permanently locked out. And oh, by the way, don't forget to shove another check in through the slot in the front door, thanks a lot, really, before you go back to looking in the window.

Creating another party would do nothing if we can't even figure out what's wrong with the Republicans, it would (at best) simply reproduce the failures, such as failure to make government smaller, failure to erradicate dysfunctional bureaucracies, and so on.

So I'd suggest we first try to figure out what the blazes is wrong inside the Repub party. Why does it have cancer? Right now we can barely see in the windows, sometimes we see shadows move, that's about all we really know.
110 posted on 06/16/2007 8:23:46 PM PDT by omnivore
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To: Prokopton

I have seen the burgs and prefer the world of reality.
I enjoy walking up the street and down a few blocks
and looking out to the USS Ronald Reagan. I appreciated growing up in my neighborhood and having respect for my neighbors who were fresh out of Hitler’s concentration camps.

It seems the people who post in favor of the illegals or against the war on terror are from the burgs.


111 posted on 06/16/2007 8:33:18 PM PDT by SoCalPol (Duncan Hunter '08 Tough on WOT & Illegals)
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To: SoCalPol

You don’t seem to be talking to me.


112 posted on 06/16/2007 8:47:19 PM PDT by unspun (What do you think? Please think, before you answer.)
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To: WinOne4TheGipper
I'll go back and read the thread, but even before that, I decline any involvement in any third-party effort, other than to advise anyone involved in that how to get on the ballot, and not to expect to get anywhere with that. Among the third-party and independent candidates I've worked for are George Wallace, Benjamin Spock, Peter Cameo, Gus Hall, Barry Commoner, Roger McBride, Gene McCarthy, and John Anderson, plus Jerry Brown (D) and George W. Bush (R). Only two of those had even a remote chance of success.

Other than personal amusement, such efforts are fruitless.

Congressman Billybob

Latest article, "Bar Fight in the Blue Ridge: The Battle for NC 11"

113 posted on 06/16/2007 8:51:23 PM PDT by Congressman Billybob (Please visit www.ArmorforCongress.com)
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To: SoCalPol
I have seen the burgs and prefer the world of reality. It seems the people who post in favor of the illegals or against the war on terror are from the burgs.

Your sense of "reality" might be a little warped. The majority of liberals in this Country live in big cities. The conservative patriots mostly live outside of big cities in flyover country. This seems to be the natural order of things.

114 posted on 06/16/2007 8:55:52 PM PDT by Prokopton
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To: Prokopton

San Diego went for Bush, we are the largest city in the
U.S. with a Republican Mayor.


115 posted on 06/16/2007 9:08:29 PM PDT by SoCalPol (Duncan Hunter '08 Tough on WOT & Illegals)
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To: GitmoSailor

This is precisely what Hillary wants to invite in...especially with Bloomberg making his 3rd party attempt. Its 1860 all over again, except now its the Republicans that screw up.


116 posted on 06/16/2007 9:15:47 PM PDT by pepsionice
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To: SoCalPol
San Diego went for Bush, we are the largest city in the U.S. with a Republican Mayor.

Parts of San Diego are beautiful, I have a good friend who lives in the Scripp's Ranch area...I fear it may not stay that way if the amnesty bill passes.

117 posted on 06/16/2007 9:48:41 PM PDT by Prokopton
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To: Prokopton

I fear it may not stay that way if the amnesty bill passes

I am sitting 20 miles north of the largest and busiest border crossing in the world.
One of San Diego’s congressmen, Duncan Hunter has been fighting this issue for years and years..
He Authored the Border Fence bill which was signed and funded then blown off at 1600 PA Ave.


118 posted on 06/16/2007 10:09:06 PM PDT by SoCalPol (Duncan Hunter '08 Tough on WOT & Illegals)
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To: Frobenius
Why not harness that resource and start our own third party with *REAL* conservative principles.

Well, for starters, a FR third party would have the effect of electing Hillary Clinton as president; and, she would waste little time in dismantling Free Republic, and repressing all other forms of dissent.

(Just think of how astoundingly few votes decided the last two presidential elections, and you can visualize a third party splitting the GOP votes into a landslide loss.)

It's no more complicated than that.

119 posted on 06/16/2007 10:16:11 PM PDT by Seaplaner (Never give in. Never give in. Never...except to convictions of honour and good sense. W. Churchill)
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To: Seaplaner

>> (Just think of how astoundingly few votes decided the last two presidential elections, and you can visualize a third party splitting the GOP votes into a landslide loss.)

It’s no more complicated than that.<<

It would appear that even Ralph Nader now gets the point that in an evenly divided country with a two party system, the side that splits, loses.

I’d hate to be dumber or more obstinate than Ralph.


120 posted on 06/16/2007 10:48:14 PM PDT by gondramB (Do not do to others as you would not wish done to yourself. Thus no murmuring will rise against you.)
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