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Exclusive: Shocking finding on US Department of State Website - Questions on Amnesty.
jedward ^ | 6-16-2007 | jedward

Posted on 06/16/2007 3:08:21 PM PDT by jedward

Where's one of the best places to learn about the United States?  Let's take a visit to the US Department of State's website and see what we can find.  When you first get to http://www.state.gov you are presented with the wonderful colors of Red White and Blue.  It's very easy to immediately see that a great deal of effort has gone into this wonderful place of learning.  So, back to the goal at hand, let's find the United States.  From the homepage you see an option to click on "Regions" and listed under that heading is the "Western Hemisphere".  That looks like the place to go, so let's click there.  Now, at this point we are at the "Bureau of Western Hemisphere Affairs".  Now along the left hand side we see a link for "Countries and Other Areas", so naturally we click there expecting to find the United States.  We see many countries listed like Cuba, Venezuela, Columbia and even Mexico, but for some reason the United States is not listed.

Well, surely the webpage didn't load properly, so we refresh the page and scroll back down and it's still not there.  At this point it's easy to say, I've missed something, so let's go back to the Homepage.  Now, we click on "Countries" again from the Homepage and immediately see a "Counties A-Z" link.  That's it, let's click there and stop all this searching.  Ok, the A-Z list is showing now, we see Cuba, China, Venezuela, Iran, Syria and North Korea.  We get to the U's and we don't see the United States.  Maybe they called it America instead, so let's scroll up and look under the A's.  The United States isn't listed there either.  While wondering in confusion we see near the "A's" a link titled "Independent States of the World", not Countries, but States.  So we click there and finally find the United States listed under the "U" section, only to my surprise there's no link on any of the "States" listed, just a name and number.

Last but not least, let's just go back to the Homepage and type "United States" in the search box and see what shows up first.

US Department of State - Home Page

... temporarily enter and depart the United States by air ... identification and Department
of State official proof ... USA.gov, What's New | Frequent Questions | Contact ...
www.state.gov/ - 2007-06-16

Shown above is what we see.  It gives us a link back to the Homepage, so that wasn't exactly helpful.

Let's play one more time.  Let's start at the Homepage, Click on "Western Hemisphere".  Now stop!  Look at the second item on the left side, the one that says "U.S. and Organization of American States".  Apparently the OAS (Organization of American States) can be spelled out, but not the United States, at least on the United State's Department of State's website anyway.  So click on that link and look for the United States link next to the Organizations of American States.  Or look below, and here's what we see:

The U.S. and the Organization of American States

---  OAS Background Information
---  Hemispheric Security
---  Organization of American States' Website
---  OAS General Assembly
---  Releases

Don't worry if your having trouble finding the United States listed above, because its not there.

You have found what the Department of State recognizes as your Country.

http://www.state.gov

http://www.state.gov/countries/

http://www.state.gov/p/wha/ci/

http://www.state.gov/misc/list/index.htm

http://www.state.gov/p/wha/rt/oas/


So you don't see the United States, let's see what information is presented.

The U.S. and the Organization of American States  http://www.oas.org

The U.S. Mission to the Organization of American States (OAS) is headed by Acting U.S. Permanent Representative J. Robert Manzanares. The OAS is the premier multilateral forum in the Western Hemisphere. Its 35 members are countries from North, South, and Central America, the Caribbean, and Canada. The charter of the OAS states that its basic objectives are to:

As a member of the OAS, the United States is committed to strengthening and working with the organization. This reflects the U.S. Government's determination to make optimal use of multilateral diplomacy to resolve regional problems and to engage its neighbors on topics of hemispheric concern.

Inter-American Democratic Charter
Remarks on the Occasion of the Special Meeting of the Permanent Council to Commemorate the Fifth Anniversary of the Adoption of the Inter-American Democratic Charter

The particulars of social and economic development are addressed through the commitments our leaders make at the Summits, and carried out through the Summits of the Americas process. That includes commitments to concrete, measurable actions, such as those which empower our people through property rights, remittances, and small business loans. The IDB’s new initiative, "Building Opportunity for the Majority," addresses these critical needs for the 40% of the people in the hemisphere who live on $3 a day or less, at the base of the pyramid.


Question:  Is there an American Union?  Answer:  Yes, there is and always has been one as originally titled such back in 1890.  Today, it's still an American Union, only it goes by a different name (see the "Established" below).  That should end any questions regarding whether there is or isn't one.  If there isn't, then the Department of State might want to consider including the United States as a Country in the Western Hemisphere some day.

May 30, 2007

Organization of American States  http://www.oas.org

Established: April 14, 1890, as the International Union of American Republics. Became the Pan American Union in 1910, then the Organization of American States in 1948 with the adoption of the OAS Charter in Bogotá, Colombia.

SPECIALIZED ORGANIZATIONS AND OTHER ENTITIES
Much important inter-American business is conducted by separate entities, some of which are independent, some fully or partially funded by the OAS, and others consisting simply of periodic hemispheric meetings which receive support from the OAS Secretariat. Subjects covered include agriculture, labor, copyrights, private international law, highways, ports and harbors, railways, telecommunications, health and sanitation, statistics, travel, child welfare, women's issues, Indian affairs, and tourism. The conferences are attended by high-level officials and technical experts to further inter-American cooperation in these fields.

The Inter-American Children's Institute (IIN)  http://www.iin.oas.org

The Inter-American Commission of Women (CIM) http://www.oas.org/cim

The Inter-American Defense Board (IADB) http://www.iid.org

The IADB has as one of its principal organizations the Inter-American Defense College http://www.jid.org/en/college/

The Inter-American Development Bank (IDB)  http://www.iidb.org

The Inter-American Institute for Cooperation in Agriculture (IICA)  http://www.iica.int

The Pan American Health Organization (PAHO) http://www.paho.org

The Pan American Institute of Geography and History (PAIGH)  http://www.igph.org

The Pan American Development Foundation (PADF)  http://www.padf.org

Question:  Is the 2007 Amnesty Bill a joke or a diversion of some kind?  Answer:  You should be able to answer that question by now...

Message to ALL Republicans & Democrats:  Unless you're ok with the dissolution of the United States and your Country not even getting a link on the Department of State's web-site, then stopping this Immigration/Amnesty bill should be your priority right now.  This is the first step in "We The People" meaning something again!

jedward


TOPICS: Editorial; Front Page News; Government; Your Opinion/Questions
KEYWORDS: 2007; amnesty; immigration; oas; statedept
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To: CharlesWayneCT

“answering questions when you’ve failed to communicate is a better response than ridiculing those who have tried to decipher your meaning in spite of it’s flaws.”

Please point me to a question I’ve not answered and I’ll be glad to answer it.


121 posted on 06/16/2007 11:48:33 PM PDT by jedward (Mission '08 - Take back the House & Senate. No Negotiations...No Prisoners.)
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To: CharlesWayneCT

“Your perception of “informative” is itself “informative”.”

So how were you informed?


122 posted on 06/16/2007 11:49:32 PM PDT by jedward (Mission '08 - Take back the House & Senate. No Negotiations...No Prisoners.)
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To: CharlesWayneCT

“You’ve probably served our country for more years than he has lived in this world.”

Well, I’m almost old enough to drink.


123 posted on 06/16/2007 11:52:42 PM PDT by jedward (Mission '08 - Take back the House & Senate. No Negotiations...No Prisoners.)
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To: CharlesWayneCT

“I believe you have misunderstood, he isn’t searching for anything.”

What is it you think I’m doing?


124 posted on 06/16/2007 11:54:17 PM PDT by jedward (Mission '08 - Take back the House & Senate. No Negotiations...No Prisoners.)
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To: CharlesWayneCT

“tried to decipher your meaning in spite of it’s flaws.”

Teach me please. What are the flaws.


125 posted on 06/17/2007 12:03:49 AM PDT by jedward (Mission '08 - Take back the House & Senate. No Negotiations...No Prisoners.)
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To: CharlesWayneCT; All

And while I’m learning, then you can show me where my mis-understanding of the Site Owner’s “Statement by the Founder” seems to be. Maybe I don’t really understand the excerpt below, but it sure seems pretty consistent with my Article. If you don’t see this, then you absolutely have blinders on.

“We also oppose the United Nations or any other world government body that may attempt to impose its will or rule over our sovereign nation and sovereign people. We believe in defending our borders, our constitution and our national sovereignty.”


126 posted on 06/17/2007 12:09:56 AM PDT by jedward (Mission '08 - Take back the House & Senate. No Negotiations...No Prisoners.)
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To: kabar

Not sure if you were aware of this portion of the “Statement from the Founder” of FreeRepublic. It deals directly with the topic of the UN.


127 posted on 06/17/2007 12:13:17 AM PDT by jedward (Mission '08 - Take back the House & Senate. No Negotiations...No Prisoners.)
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To: jedward
I like to say thanx for you effort on this. As you may know, I've been trying to find out who the players are on another puzzle I'm working on and although, these organizations "ain't all of em", for that puzzle, it is enough to pretty much put the picture together in North America/Western Hemisphere. To your question. “What does this have to do with Amnesty”

Well, on the face of it, nothing. It seems benign enough, something a bunch of elites came up with as a tool to deal with other nations in this hemisphere. This one statement should start most here to thinkin.

As post#70 states;
"You mean you don't see the implications of the United States being indistinguishable among other countries within a higher level of an international political region in an American Department of State website?"

This poster stated the most obvious reason (Bold), that the amnesty bill must pass; the US must be indistinguishable for the rest of the hemisphere in order to fulfill its stated objectives. What are the objectives? - The North American Union of course. It is being constructed before our eyes, in pieces and under many names and guises. How else would "United States being indistinguishable among other countries?

Does the Amnesty bill still look like a diversion? To me, it looks just like another piece of the same puzzle.

Unfortunately this only one phase of the plan - no I won't go there yet as I am still trying to name all the players :)

128 posted on 06/17/2007 1:55:49 AM PDT by WorkerbeeCitizen (An American Patriot and an anti-Islam kind of fellow. (POI))
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To: William Terrell

Nicely put. Typical social engineer tool.


129 posted on 06/17/2007 1:59:03 AM PDT by WorkerbeeCitizen (An American Patriot and an anti-Islam kind of fellow. (POI))
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To: CharlesWayneCT
" Having read your post, I'd say that if you have something to say about things, you do seem to have a hard time doing so, whether it's answering the question above, or anything else. But don't worry, as you grow older you could well learn to communicate more effectively. Part of which might be to learn that answering questions when you've failed to communicate is a better response than ridiculing those who have tried to decipher your meaning in spite of it's flaws."

You are being facetious of course - right?

130 posted on 06/17/2007 2:02:51 AM PDT by WorkerbeeCitizen (An American Patriot and an anti-Islam kind of fellow. (POI))
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To: WorkerbeeCitizen

What I haven’t figured out yet and maybe someone else has, is; Why the big rush NOW?


131 posted on 06/17/2007 2:38:13 AM PDT by WorkerbeeCitizen (An American Patriot and an anti-Islam kind of fellow. (POI))
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To: jedward

The short answer is that I don’t believe in rewarding people who violated our laws mutiple times with citizenship. And amnesty will just invite another wave of illegals just like what happened after 1986.


132 posted on 06/17/2007 6:07:21 AM PDT by kabar
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To: freeandfreezing
By the same logic providing a brief introduction to our nation in the section which is an A-Z listing of countries seems to make sense. After all, wouldn't you expect an A-Z listing of baseball teams to include the New York Yankees, even if the web site was in New York?

Makes sense to you but not to me. If you look at the countries listed, you will also notice that it includes background notes and the name of our ambassador, which is linked to a bio. We don't have a US ambassador to the US. We don't have foreign relations with ourselves. It appears you don't understand the role of the State Department in our government. The basic Mission Statement is: Create a more secure, democratic, and prosperous world for the benefit of the American people and the international community.

133 posted on 06/17/2007 6:17:31 AM PDT by kabar
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To: freeandfreezing

Or have State’s webmaster just steal the CIA’s US info page (its government property, so no copyright). :o)
https://www.cia.gov/library/publications/the-world-factbook/geos/us.html


134 posted on 06/17/2007 9:24:24 AM PDT by Maximum Leader (run from a knife, close on a gun)
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To: jedward

Our state department never was big on helping America or even slowly helps Americans overseas.


135 posted on 06/17/2007 9:34:13 AM PDT by tillacum
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To: tillacum

Noted,and everything “foreign” runs through State, so I indeed watch them very closely in understanding the United States. And when others do the same, they’ll be enlightened to doubt.


136 posted on 06/17/2007 9:43:31 AM PDT by jedward (Mission '08 - Take back the House & Senate. No Negotiations...No Prisoners.)
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To: kabar

Thanks kabar.


137 posted on 06/17/2007 9:44:08 AM PDT by jedward (Mission '08 - Take back the House & Senate. No Negotiations...No Prisoners.)
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To: kabar
As someone who has worked in the State Department for 28 years, I would be happy to answer any questions you might have.

What happened to all those laptops that were stolen when Mad Albright led your organization?
138 posted on 06/17/2007 9:49:56 AM PDT by hedgetrimmer (I'm a billionaire! Thanks WTO and the "free trade" system!--Hu Jintao top 10 worst dictators)
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To: kabar
OAS is an international organization similar to NATO, the UN, etc.

Not like NATO.
139 posted on 06/17/2007 9:51:48 AM PDT by hedgetrimmer (I'm a billionaire! Thanks WTO and the "free trade" system!--Hu Jintao top 10 worst dictators)
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To: hedgetrimmer
The operative word is similar. Both are multilateral organizations. Check out Chapters one and two of the OAS Charter. "An act of aggression against one American State is an act of aggression against all the other American States;
140 posted on 06/17/2007 10:19:36 AM PDT by kabar
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