Posted on 06/15/2007 10:38:16 AM PDT by grundle
The National Center for Education Statistics (NCES) compiles loads of statistics on education. The NCES "Digest of Education Statistics" Table 136 shows average SAT scores by student characteristics for 2001. Students who select education as their major have the lowest SAT scores of any major (964). Math majors have the highest (1174).
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Them as can't teach, administrate. :-)
Most high school acquantances I knew who were going to be education majors did so because it was easier than any others. They weren’t ashamed to say so either.
“It’s entirely possible for three-quarters of a group, or more, to be above or below the average for that group.” — Jack of all Trades
Good call, Jack — I was about to post the same thing.
VIVA Liebnitz, Newton and Ol' Bertie
Yes, but they had other talents.
Pet Peeve.
‘Those teach who can’t do’ runs the dictum,
But for some even that’s out of reach:
They can’t even teach — so they’ve picked ’em
To teach other people to teach.
Then alas for the next generation,
For the pots fairly crackle with thorn.
Where psychology meets education
A terrible bulls--t is born.— Ted Pauker, A Grouchy Good Night to the Academic Year.
PING
And unnoted exceptions such as Mr. McCollum, who taught an exceptionally advanced high school electronics class. (Jobs and Wozniak were both among his students.)
Not good but not a surprise. I think a lot of it comes down to discipline and bureaucracy in the public schools. Really hard to encourage promising and civic minded kids to go into education when they have to deal with a lot of the stuff that students are allowed to do these days and a lot of the crap from modern ungrateful parents with tremendous sense of entitlement who blame teachers, not junior, for bad grades. The cities are especially bad when it comes to parents with an axe to grind and dangerous/unmotivated students. Add in inane bureaucrats who tell you what you can and can’t teach and you have a job that not too many high achievers are going to want. Certainly not when they can easily make more money elsewhere.
Well, put this into persepective:
20% of the entire population will go on to college and graduate with a 4 year degree.
Of that 20%, 8% will go on past a bachelors degree.
I would be willing to bet over 75% of teachers have a master’s degree, and 100% of teachers, in schools, have a degree.
I was not a math major in college, but that means the majority of teachers are in a very, very small population of people.
Tell me about it. I got a 600 on the math portion of the SAT (did much better in verbal), but for the life of me, I could not pass a college-level math class. That forced me to switch majors. As old as the excuse goes, I blame the professors. Their ability to effectively communicate was so horrible, I doubt they could even place an order through a drive-thru.
I had a Chinese math TA who kept talking about “Chen Wu”. Finally figgered out he was saying “Chain Rule”.
I like your perspective. It actually makes sense.
Today was the last day of school for students. I’ve never been there at dismissal on the last day, but am there on a fairly regular basis the rest of the year picking up my daughter and her friend. Rules of hallway decorum are STRICTLY enforced, so I was rather surprised with the rather chaotic dismissal this afternoon........even the teachers were dancing with the kids in the hallway to the tune of Kool & the Gang’s “Celebration” that the Secretary had pumping through the PA system.
They had the lowest SATs when I was in college 40 years ago. They also had the easiest courses.
They had the lowest SATs when I was in college 40 years ago. They also had the easiest courses.
No...in the mid-1980’s, Education majors had lower GRE Verbal scores (never mind the Math or Analytical portion) than Engineering majors, Math majors, and just about everybody....
Aquinas and Aristotle would have a tough time getting a teaching certificate today.
Aquinas and Aristotle would have a tough time getting a teaching certificate today.
I was a University undergrad in the late 60s. Even then Education majors were the utter dregs of academic society.
It's the Fredo Phenomenon ("I'm smart. Not like people say").
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