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Ancient Tomb Found in Mexico Reveals Mass Child Sacrifice
National Geographic ^ | June 12, 2007 | Kelly Hearn

Posted on 06/13/2007 8:02:55 AM PDT by NYer

The skeletons of two dozen children killed in an ancient mass sacrifice have been found in a tomb at a construction site in Mexico.

The find reveals new details about the ancient Toltec civilization and adds to an ongoing debate over ritualistic killing in historic Mesoamerica.

Construction crews unearthed the burial chamber this spring near the town of Tula, the ancient Toltec capital, 50 miles (80 kilometers) north of Mexico City (see Mexico map).

The chamber contained 24 skeletons of children believed to have been sacrificed between A.D. 950 and 1150, according to Luis Gamboa, an archaeologist at Mexico's National Institute of Anthropology and History.

All but one of the children were between 5 to 15 years of age, and they were likely killed as an offering to the Toltec rain god Tlaloc, Gamboa said.

The Toltec, a pre-Aztec civilization that thrived from the 10th to 12th centuries, had not been previously thought to have sacrificed children.

But the ritualistic placement of the skeletons, cut marks on bones, and the presence of a figurine of Tlaloc led Gamboa to conclude the children had been sacrificed to bring rain.

"To try and explain why there are 24 bodies grouped in the same place, well, the only way is to think that there was a human sacrifice," Gamboa told the Reuters news agency.

"You can see evidence of incisions, which make us think they possibly used sharp-edged instruments to decapitate them."

Elaborate Burials

The skeletons were each found in a seated position looking east to face the sunrise, Gamboa said.

Several artifacts were also found around the bodies, some of which suggest that the children had been brought in from another region, he added.

"We believe that based on the comparison of archaeological materials that accompanied the human burials," Gamboa told National Geographic News.

In particular, he said, his team discovered some vessels that bore markings "similar to those found in the southern region of the Basin of Mexico," he said.

Two of the children also appear to have been given especially elaborate burials, based on the quality of vessels and other artifacts found nearby, including turquoise that may have originated in the present-day southwestern United States.

Gamboa's discovery requires some important changes to the time line of Mesoamerican history, said Traci Ardren, an archaeologist at University of Miami, who was not involved in the research.

"This new discovery at Tula pushes back the evidence for a relationship between child sacrifice and the [appeasement] of the rain god Tlaloc at least 300 years," she said.

Evidence suggests the children sacrificed to Tlaloc were in very poor health when they died and that the sacrifices were not punitive, she added.

Children of "young age and greater purity" were "more powerful mechanisms for the petitions of the living," Ardren said.

Signs of sacrifice are not unique at this time and place, noted Robert Carmack, an anthropologist at the University of Albany, but Gamboa's findings demonstrate the influence that the Toltec had in the region.

"[Cultures during this] period in Central Mexico, especially the Aztecs, were profoundly influenced by the Toltecs, so the existence of Toltec child sacrifice is not at all surprising," he said.

Carmack said early Toltec influence was also pervasive in the highlands of what is now Guatemala, and Maya documents from the region refer to child sacrifice.

(See a video about Maya violence in the movie Apocalypto.)

"There is sound evidence of the existence of child sacrifice there, although perhaps not on a grand scale," he said.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Mexico; Philosophy
KEYWORDS: godsgravesglyphs; mexico; sacrifice; toltec
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Bones of an ancient child-sacrifice victim are displayed in Tula, Mexico, April 19, 2007. The discovery of 24 children's skeletons in a mass grave at Tula may be the first evidence that the ancient Toltec civilization sacrificed children, according to archaeologist Luis Gamboa. The bones, dating from A.D. 950 to 1150, indicate that the children had been decapitated in a group, he said.

1 posted on 06/13/2007 8:02:59 AM PDT by NYer
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To: SunkenCiv

Ping!


2 posted on 06/13/2007 8:03:26 AM PDT by NYer ("Where the bishop is present, there is the Catholic Church" - Ignatius of Antioch)
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Look 5 posts ahead of you.


3 posted on 06/13/2007 8:07:21 AM PDT by edcoil (Reality doesn't say much - doesn't need too)
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Evidence suggests the children sacrificed to Tlaloc were in very poor health when they died and that the sacrifices were not punitive, she added

what is this supposed to mean? That we shouldn't be judgemental about a culture who beheads 24 children to appease a fickle rain-god?

4 posted on 06/13/2007 8:11:22 AM PDT by ghost of nixon
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I didn’t realize Planned Parenthood has been around that long.


5 posted on 06/13/2007 8:13:21 AM PDT by KingSnorky
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Ancient Tomb Found in Mexico Reveals Mass Child Sacrifice

And the words "Planned Parenthood" were over the door.

6 posted on 06/13/2007 8:16:04 AM PDT by P8riot (I carry a gun because I can't carry a cop.)
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Al-Queda in the new world, that far back?


7 posted on 06/13/2007 8:20:40 AM PDT by blasater1960
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Their god wanted them to sacrifice the ones who have no say over who is sacrificed...funny how that worked all over the world.


8 posted on 06/13/2007 8:22:48 AM PDT by blam
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That religion is alive and well, today—using abortion clinics as their alters...


9 posted on 06/13/2007 8:24:07 AM PDT by BlabItGrabIt (Homosexuals, Dixie Chicks, Envirowackos are teaching the kids)
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what is this supposed to mean?

A feeble attempt by the MSM to link the slaughter of 24 sick children 1000 years ago with the contemporary notion of euthanasia. It was barbaric then; nothing has changed.

10 posted on 06/13/2007 8:25:51 AM PDT by NYer ("Where the bishop is present, there is the Catholic Church" - Ignatius of Antioch)
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The earliest Planned Parenthood Center


11 posted on 06/13/2007 8:30:27 AM PDT by NCBraveheart
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We still have this practice in modern times. Just because our bloodthirsty barbarians wear a white coat and are called “Doctor” doesn’t make them any less a barbarian.


12 posted on 06/13/2007 8:38:51 AM PDT by JamesP81 (Romans 10:9)
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Evidence suggests the children sacrificed to Tlaloc were in very poor health when they died and that the sacrifices were not punitive, she added

I think this has less to do with excusing euthanasia than with preserving multiculturalism. They want to make the sacrificers somehow seem nicer and kinder than they actually were.

The fact is that most, if not all, of the Indians living in South America before the age of exploration seem to have been cruel and brutal. It's not a racial thing; other people have been cruel and brutal too. The Phoenicians, who otherwise had a high trading and exploring civilization, sacrificed their first-born children to Baal Moloch, for instance.

But the inconvenient fact for multiculturalism is that when Our Lady of Guadalupe appeared and millions of Indians were converted to Christianity, there was a vast improvement in their culture. South American Indian culture is still pretty rough, and constantly roiled by populists and Marxists who play on their resentments, but inconceivably better than it was before their conversion from the old religions. But no true multiculturalist can admit that.

13 posted on 06/13/2007 8:43:34 AM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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Post-birth abortions to appease the Women’s Libbers of that day.


14 posted on 06/13/2007 9:24:08 AM PDT by wildbill
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Ancient Tomb Found in Mexico Reveals Mass Child Sacrifice (At least they didn’t throw theirs away?)
National Geographic | 6-12-07 | Kelly Hearn
Posted on 06/13/2007 10:55:30 AM EDT by Bladerunnuh
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1849516/posts


15 posted on 06/13/2007 9:52:09 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (Time heals all wounds, particularly when they're not yours. Profile updated June 8, 2007.)
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16 posted on 06/13/2007 9:53:06 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (Time heals all wounds, particularly when they're not yours. Profile updated June 8, 2007.)
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Their god wanted them to sacrifice the ones who have no say over who is sacrificed...funny how that worked all over the world.
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Yep, them gods was shore nuff dependable, don’t think I ever heered tell o’ one that told the priest to cut his own danged throat!


17 posted on 06/13/2007 12:45:21 PM PDT by RipSawyer (Does anybody still believe this is a free country?)
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Maybe children weren’t qualified for foodstamps or additional welfare to parents and therefore considered useless eaters.

Sad though.


18 posted on 06/13/2007 12:52:16 PM PDT by billygoatgruff
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VIVA LA RAZA!!!
19 posted on 06/13/2007 12:54:09 PM PDT by rottndog (If the Left obeyed the 10th Commandment, maybe they would learn to obey the 10th Amendment.)
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There was never any question about this - until now. The Spanish were horrified by the Indian sacrifices and ritual cannibalism and reported on it at great length. Even some of the Indians appear to have been a little horrified, and it is certainly one of the things that accounted for the rapid spread of Christianity in Mexico and Indian lands.

One of my kids went to high school in California in the early 80s and brought home a text book that said that the Aztecs were way ahead of Europeans in everything and that Europeans destroyed a kind, intelligent and peace-loving culture...yuck! So the Aztecs had a calendar. Many other peoples did, too, but by that time, Christianity and Judaism had educated them out of offering up their babies to placate the wrathful gods. Not to mention the fact that the Aztecs were so brutal that other Indian groups actually helped the Spanish take them down.

One of the best remarks about missionary activity I ever heard was someone who said, about missionary activity to an indigenous group in the Pacific Islands, “well, it delivered them from fear.” Primitive pre-Christian peoples live in fear of the world around them, and Christianity delivers them from that fear.


20 posted on 06/13/2007 12:55:34 PM PDT by livius
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