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Senate Republicans Work $4.4 Billion Border Security Amendment
Fox News ^ | June 12, 2007

Posted on 06/12/2007 8:07:24 PM PDT by 3AngelaD

GOP negotiators of an immigration reform bill are crafting a large border security amendment with mandatory, immediate funding that they hope will assuage concerns of both Republicans and Democrats, FOX News has learned. The senators are looking at a way to please conservatives who are skeptical Congress will ever fund the bill's border security provisions, as well as keep Democratic negotiators on board in a last ditch effort to save the comprehensive reform bill....

South Carolina Sen. Lindsey Graham, a principle author of the amendment with Republican Sens. Jon Kyl and Mel Martinez, says his amendment is designed to be "a confidence builder" to address members' concerns that ramped up border security provisions in the bill won't, in the end, get funded. Graham hopes to provide $4.4 billion the day the bill is signed, through an estimate in fees and fines in the current immigration bill, to be used to beef up all the border security measures in the bill, with an additional $800 million for further measures, taking from measures put forward last year by New Hampshire Sen. Judd Gregg who called for more investment in capital infrastructure, like unmanned aerial vehicles and new Coast Guard boats.

Graham said this $4.4 billion would be borrowed from the Treasury and repaid once the fines and fees from the bill are collected, like the $5,000 fine each illegal has to pay for a work visa, called a "Z visa." Graham said it would be better to do it this way, rather than an emergency funding bill, which goes directly to increasing the deficit...

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KEYWORDS: 110th; amnesty; bordersecurity
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To: 3AngelaD

Graham said this $4.4 billion would be borrowed from the Treasury and repaid once the fines and fees from the bill are collected, like the $5,000 fine each illegal has to pay for a work visa, called a “Z visa.”

Well, well, the first line out of Graham’s mouth is a lie. A Z Visa does not cost $5k.


21 posted on 06/12/2007 8:31:51 PM PDT by sheana
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To: ChildOfThe60s

“Graham hopes to provide $4.4 billion the day the bill is signed, “

What a joke.


22 posted on 06/12/2007 8:34:35 PM PDT by gas0linealley (.good fences make good neighbors)
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To: 3AngelaD
Graham said this $4.4 billion would be borrowed from the Treasury and repaid once the fines and fees from the bill are collected, like the $5,000 fine each illegal has to pay for a work visa, called a "Z visa."

Yea - that's gonna work. Might as well have it go directly to the deficit.

Hey - I got a better idea. Why not cut back on three or four earmarks to pay for it? Cancel that plan for the Museum of Women's History (Hillary) or the bridge to nowhere (Stevens) and show us how serious you are to fund this.

23 posted on 06/12/2007 8:35:28 PM PDT by capydick (What if the Hokey Pokey IS what it's all about?)
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To: 3AngelaD

Graham said this $4.4 billion would be borrowed from the Treasury and repaid once the fines and fees from the bill are collected, like the $5,000 fine each illegal has to pay for a work visa, called a “Z visa.”

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If I was not so dang mad about this whole travesty, I would have actually laughed at that line. How dumb does this traitor think we are?

Well, let’s see, Lindsey, how many illegals do you think will actually cough up the fine? And, gee, what will you do with those who don’t? Well, we can’t just “round them up” now, can we?


24 posted on 06/12/2007 8:37:40 PM PDT by Bigg Red (Duncan Hunter in 2008!)
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To: 3AngelaD
South Carolina Sen. Lindsey Graham, a principle author of the amendment

That right there is the first major problem with the amendment -- Graham, a principle author of the amendment.

This amendment needs to be heavily scrutinized for nuances and parsings.
25 posted on 06/12/2007 8:37:58 PM PDT by TomGuy
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To: sheana

Yes, the South Carolina Weeping Pansy is hard to believe.


26 posted on 06/12/2007 8:38:50 PM PDT by 3AngelaD (They screwed up their own countries so bad they had to leave, and now they're here screwing up ours)
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To: Shermy

So, here in Mexico we see you in America reward those who violated your laws, when nice people millions paid $100 to legally come to the country to look see get turned back, refused and will get no reward. Many of us would gladly pay $5,000 to get a Z visa.. So the Z visa, is made to make us think that this is the LAST...that after your Congress bill of 1965... and the Simpson law of 1985. THIS time you REALLY men busines. Hard to believe. You need to put some borders in your own society. Like a border if a kid doesn’t make the grade, he doesn’t pass. Or maybe a border that you get contractual legal commitment, before you open your legs and receive seman, have a baby and ask the gov’t to help you raise it. You need perimeters that says 14 year old girls need to tell daddy when they are pregnant. And if someone is Amish, from Intercourse Pennyslvania, probably NOT carrying a gun or bomb in an airport to blow up someone. Time to make some limits about WHO we have to search, and why everytime. Looks like a travelers card would allow people who travel often don’t have to go in that line. My 90 year old mother in law takes about 30 minutes to get through the searches. She has stainless steel knees, and they are most certain that she’ll get out of her wheelchair and take command of the aircraft....What happened to common sense to you folks up North?


27 posted on 06/12/2007 8:39:00 PM PDT by rovenstinez
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To: 3AngelaD
Hey Pandsey, how 'bout investing that $4.4 BILLION in enforcement of existing laws?
28 posted on 06/12/2007 8:39:36 PM PDT by upchuck (IMPORTANT! -> Immigration: What the Deal-Makers don't want you to know -> http://tinyurl.com/2pwp6o)
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To: 3AngelaD

If this amendment is added to the bill and the bill passes the Senate, we win, folks. Our boys in the House are going to take this bill DOWN. The Senate can’t include funding measures, and this will kill the bill.


29 posted on 06/12/2007 8:41:33 PM PDT by Rastus
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To: 3AngelaD
Lindsay Graham get a clue!

Split these topics as they deserve, secure the border FIRST, then we'll talk.

Until then, just go away and forget about your disgusting and treasonous amnesty bill

30 posted on 06/12/2007 8:42:43 PM PDT by Lloyd227 (and may God bless Oriana Fallaci)
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To: capydick

Yes to all that except the Bridge to Nowhere wasn’t Stevens, it was Don Young when he was chairman of the House Appropriations Committee.


31 posted on 06/12/2007 8:42:45 PM PDT by 3AngelaD (They screwed up their own countries so bad they had to leave, and now they're here screwing up ours)
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To: 3AngelaD
No can do, folks. Build the fence and cut off the flow now. Then we can hash out the other parts. This is just bribery.
32 posted on 06/12/2007 8:43:30 PM PDT by Major Matt Mason (We need a third party to return to a two-party system.)
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To: 3AngelaD
Graham said this $4.4 billion would be borrowed from the Treasury

to be used to beef up all the border security measures in the bill


So, exactly what is this $4.4 billion buying? More what?

Or is this like many of the Homeland Security grants -- going to enhance local golf courses and flowers for highway center divides?
33 posted on 06/12/2007 8:43:33 PM PDT by TomGuy
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To: 3AngelaD

http://thehill.com/leading-the-news/gop-plots-blue-slip-attack-2007-05-30.html


34 posted on 06/12/2007 8:44:24 PM PDT by Rastus
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To: 3AngelaD

Show Americans the money.

Save us from the turd world.

Flush Lindsey and the jackass he rode.


35 posted on 06/12/2007 8:48:19 PM PDT by petertare (--)
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To: baiamonte

Graham is a liar. The Senate reminds me of a gas station toilet. We need a “courtesy flush”.
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36 posted on 06/12/2007 8:50:37 PM PDT by cowdog77 (" Are there any brave men left in Washington, or are they all cowards?")
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To: 3AngelaD

Step # 1. Start enforcing existing immigration laws.

Step # 2. Build the 854 mile wall that was passed into law last year.

Step # 3. We’ll talk again after Jan. 20, 2009.


37 posted on 06/12/2007 8:51:31 PM PDT by airborne (Airborne - Ranger - Vietnam veteran! Duncan Hunter for President!)
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To: 3AngelaD

The more I read on this, the more I find it hard to believe how stupid the folks in Fedgov really think we are.


38 posted on 06/12/2007 8:51:45 PM PDT by zeugma (Don't Want illegal Alien Amnesty? Call 800-417-7666)
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To: 3AngelaD

They can coat that pig with all the lipstick they can find and it is still an amnesty.


39 posted on 06/12/2007 8:51:51 PM PDT by Ingtar (...right wing conservatives are growing tired of crawling on bloody stumps looking for scraps - JRob)
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To: Rastus

Not exactly. TAX measures have to originate in the House. The Senate and House pass 13 appropriations bills each year, and have to reconcile them (in conference commitee). But money cannot be spent unless there are also bills authorizing its expenditure passed and agreed to by both houses. If this amendment is added to the bill, it does nothing because it is not an appropriations bill, but the rest of it would go into effect if it is passed by both the House and Senate. That is why it is a sucker bill. I, too, hope the House takes it down. But I would feel much better if the Senate failed to pass another cloture vote and dropped it altogether.


40 posted on 06/12/2007 8:52:47 PM PDT by 3AngelaD (They screwed up their own countries so bad they had to leave, and now they're here screwing up ours)
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