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3.5% (Military Pay) Raise a Lock for '08? (Bush is against it)
military.com ^ | June 01, 2007 | Tom Philpott

Posted on 06/11/2007 2:47:37 PM PDT by nckerr

The Senate Armed Services Committee practically assured military personnel a 3.5 percent pay raise next January by including that figure in the fiscal 2008 defense authorization bill it approved in late May.

The House of Representatives already had voted to give the military a 3.5 pay raise next year, which is a half percentage point higher than proposed the Bush administration.

After the House vote, the White House’s Office of Management and Budget said the bigger pay raise was “unnecessary” and urged congressional leaders to instead back a 3 percent increase which would match recent wage growth in the private sector.

Senate Republicans ignored the White House pleading and joined with Democrats in supporting the bigger raise. It now appears likely that 2008 will be the ninth consecutive year of military raises set at least .5 percent above private sector wage growth as measured by the government’s Employment Cost Index (ECI).

The House voted to sustain this string of ECI-plus-a-half-percent military raises through 2012, long enough nearly to wipe out a perceived pay gap with the private sector. At one time, the gap exceeded 13 percent. The Senate committee’s bill deals only with the 2008 raise. Any differences in the bills will be ironed out by a House-Senate conference later this summer.

Here are more details from Senate committee bill:

TRICARE Fees -- The Senate committee did vote like the House in rejecting for a second year the Bush administration’s call to raise TRICARE fees and deductibles as well as TRICARE retail drug co-payments. Senators want to delay action on any such changes for at least another year. Lawmakers and their staffs want to study the final report of the Task Force on the Future of Military Healthcare which is due in December.

Chapter 61 Retirees -- The Senate committee bill would take a more dramatic step than does the House to expand eligibility for Combat-Related Special Compensation (CRSC) to Chapter 61 retirees -- members forced by service-connected disabilities to leave service short of 20 years. The Senate language would allow any Chapter 61 retiree with combat-related disabilities to receive both disability compensation and CRSC. Their CRSC payment would be the equivalent of retired pay based on years served.

The House voted to expand CRSC eligibility only to Chapter 61 retirees who served at least 15 years and have combat-related disabilities rated 60 percent or higher.

Reserve Retirement -- One item that will spark negotiation is the Senate committee’s language to lower the start of reserve retirement below age 60 by three months for every 90 days a reservist or National Guard members is recalled to active duty.

This change at first glance looks like a boon to career reservists mobilized for Iraq and Afghanistan. But the committee could find no money to apply this change retroactively to deployments since the attacks of 9/11. This change, therefore, only would lower retirement age for reserve and National Guard personnel mobilized after the date the bill is signed.

SBP-DIC Offset -- The Senate bill is silent on ending or phasing out of the so-called SBP-DIC offset that impacts 61,000 surviving spouses. Current law requires that payments under the military’s Survivor Benefit Plan be reduced by amounts surviving spouses receive in Disability and Indemnity Compensation from the Department of Veterans Affairs. The House bill would take a first step toward elimination the offset by paying up to a $40 a month survivor indemnity allowance starting in October 2008.

Though the Senate committee ignored the SBP-DIC offset issue, an initiative still might be added when amendments voted on during floor debate on the authorization bill later in June.

Survivor Benefits -- Meanwhile, the committee did adopt two smaller changes to survivor benefits. One provision would allow guardians and caretakers of dependent children to receive SBP benefits, closing a coverage gap brought to light with U.S. deaths in Iraq and Afghanistan. Grandparents or other guardians have been left to care for surviving children but they are ineligible for SBP to help raise them.

The Senate bill also would allow service members to designate in writing anyone as beneficiary of their death gratuity. This change would treat the death payments more like an insurance policy.

Drug Discounts -- Both the House bill and Senate-committee bill would squeeze pharmaceutical manufacturers to provide federal pricing discounts to medicines dispensed through TRICARE retail pharmacy network. Such discounts already are given on medicines dispensed on base, through the military’s mail order program and through VA clinics and hospitals. The Senate language orders the discounts for TRICARE retail outlets. The House language isn’t as rigid. It would allow the department to exclude drugs from the TRICARE retail formulary if drug makers do not provide the discounts. The Senate committee decided the House approach could hurt patients.

Accumulated Leave -- The Senate committee voted to allow any service member to carry up to 90 days of unused leave into the fiscal year. The current ceiling is 60 days for members not in a war zone. Senators said that is too limiting given the pace of operations today.

To comment, e-mail milupdate@aol.com, write to Military Update, P.O. Box 231111, Centreville, VA, 20120-1111 or visit: www.militaryupdate.com


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Wow. He just increased our tours to at least 15 months. In the 1990's, congress voted to always increase our pay .5% above inflation to catch military pay up to at least civilian pay. There use to be 13% gap. This after 80% of the military voted for Bush in 2004.
1 posted on 06/11/2007 2:47:39 PM PDT by nckerr
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To: nckerr

Shaking my head and saying damn.....


2 posted on 06/11/2007 2:49:19 PM PDT by Kimmers (Where is Hispania ?)
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To: nckerr

If you dig deeper, Bush probably opposed a bill which had other riders on it, so do the research first.


3 posted on 06/11/2007 2:51:13 PM PDT by Perdogg (congratulations - you have just won an ipod nano)
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No offense to your posting, but can someone verify the accuracy of this (WH rejection)? This reminds me of some articles that came out in 04 saying that the President personally cut funds to the Veterans Administration (some of which appeared on Military.com) and it prompted so many letters, the VA itself had to post a letter on its site saying the information was inaccurate and there weren’t any cuts.
5 posted on 06/11/2007 2:53:13 PM PDT by mnehring (Virtus Junxit Mors Non Separabit)
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To: Perdogg
After the House vote, the White House’s Office of Management and Budget said the bigger pay raise was “unnecessary” and urged congressional leaders to instead back a 3 percent increase which would match recent wage growth in the private sector.

It sounds like he opposed the military pay raise specifically.

6 posted on 06/11/2007 2:53:48 PM PDT by lesser_satan (FRED THOMPSON '08)
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"Wow. He just increased our tours to at least 15 months. In the 1990's, congress voted to always increase our pay .5% above inflation to catch military pay up to at least civilian pay. There use to be 13% gap. This after 80% of the military voted for Bush in 2004. "

MY pay under President Bush went up over $1000 suring his firts term before I retired.

He's given several 7%-8% targeted pay raises and this is the accross the board pay raise on top of the targeted pay raises.

7 posted on 06/11/2007 2:56:34 PM PDT by america-rules
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To: Perdogg
If you dig deeper, Bush probably opposed a bill which had other riders on it, so do the research first.

If you read the story, then you would see that he was not against the pork that was probably in it, he was for a 3% pay raise instead. Which would have been a broken promise by the government to erase the pay gap. Clinton and the then Republican controlled congress promised it BEFORE a war that has caused over 3000 deaths and a divorce rate probably twice that of the national average. I am a recruiter now and I surely don't see a line out my door of your kids waiting to sign the line. Better pay may help out a little.
8 posted on 06/11/2007 2:57:23 PM PDT by nckerr ("The truth is bin Laden and his followers did not hijack Islam; they simply took it seriously.")
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W could pay for the larger raise for our troops by furloughing the entire State Department.

It’d be a win-win, baby!


9 posted on 06/11/2007 2:58:04 PM PDT by Nervous Tick
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Glad I checked this..
Here are a couple of documents on this from the Federal Budget office that gives full account as to the numbers, and they don’t match the article.

http://www.whitehouse.gov/omb/memoranda/fy2005/m05-21.pdf
http://www.whitehouse.gov/omb/memoranda/fy2007/m07-02.pdf
http://www.whitehouse.gov/omb/legislative/sap/109-2/hr5122sap-h.pdf

Note the last one was co-authored by Duncan Hunter. The key points are on page 3 of 7. Seems overall a mixed message in relation to the article.


10 posted on 06/11/2007 2:59:45 PM PDT by mnehring (Virtus Junxit Mors Non Separabit)
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Ye Gods, if Bush were going out of his way to insure he leaves office with an approval rating in the teens and bequeaths us with a RAT President, I'm unsure what he'd be doing differently.

Letting Harry Reid get to your right on matters military? That takes some heavy lifting!

11 posted on 06/11/2007 3:00:19 PM PDT by Western Civ 4ever
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In the interests of troop morale they should be given the 3.5% and their health care costs shouldn’t rise faster than their pay.


12 posted on 06/11/2007 3:00:39 PM PDT by Gay State Conservative ("The meaning of peace is the absence of opposition to socialism."-Karl Marx)
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3.5% (Military Pay) Raise a Lock for '08? (Bush is against it)

Of course.
You can't afford to that sort of exorbitant pay raise when you're
going to let 12-20 MILLION ILLEGAL immigrants to place future liens
on the United States Treasury!

No golden parachutes for the military.
Or even reasonable step-raises.

For once, Dubya shows that he did earn that MBA from Harvard.

(I say that with regret as I respect and admire Dubya for lots of
the hard stands he's taken and the unfair brutality he's suffered
in the press.)
13 posted on 06/11/2007 3:01:02 PM PDT by VOA
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To: Perdogg
If you dig deeper, Bush probably opposed a bill which had other riders on it, so do the research first.

The President has spoken out specifically on the 3.5% raise and has said he is opposed to it. Riders have nothing to do with it.

14 posted on 06/11/2007 3:01:30 PM PDT by Non-Sequitur (Save Fredericksburg. Support CVBT.)
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To: Non-Sequitur

Check the links in post #10.


15 posted on 06/11/2007 3:02:08 PM PDT by mnehring (Virtus Junxit Mors Non Separabit)
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To: nckerr
I am a recruiter now

Who do you generally see showing up? How many opt into things like "Arctic Snowmobile Repair Specialist 1st Class" to avoid going to Iraq?

16 posted on 06/11/2007 3:02:47 PM PDT by AmericaUnited
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To: mnehrling
Federal Budget office that gives full account as to the numbers, and they don’t match the article

You will not convince many here.

They will jump to a "it's Bush's fault" stance no matter what.

17 posted on 06/11/2007 3:04:03 PM PDT by what's up
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To: Perdogg
Bush probably opposed a bill which had other riders on it, so do the research first.

That's what I was thinking. Bush is too Pro-military to turn down hired pay raise for them. There has to be something more to this.

18 posted on 06/11/2007 3:04:09 PM PDT by YellowRoseofTx
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To: nckerr

It’s the understanding of many in the military that Bush is specifically against the 3.5% pay raise. He’s also trying to cut the TRICARE benefits...


19 posted on 06/11/2007 3:05:06 PM PDT by EverOnward
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To: nckerr

Dr. Jeckyll and Mr Hyde wants all the money for his illegal immigrants.


20 posted on 06/11/2007 3:06:38 PM PDT by freekitty
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