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Woman seeks damages from primary school
earthtimes.org ^ | Sat, 09 Jun 2007 18:08:00GMT | Entertainment News Editor

Posted on 06/10/2007 4:52:45 PM PDT by Alien Syndrome

LONDON, June 9 A British teaching assistant is suing an elementary school in London after being disciplined for refusing to listen to a child read a "Harry Potter" book. Sariya Allen told a tribunal she resigned from her post at Durand Primary School after being suspended for "her obstructive conduct over time," the Daily Mail reported Saturday. Allen claims she was "harassed, humiliated and discriminated" against because of her religious beliefs. Her last alleged act of "obstructive conduct" before resigning in 2006 was refusing to listen to a 7-year-old girl read a "Harry Potter" book because she said it was against her Christian faith. Her employers disciplined her after she told the girl "I don't do witchcraft in any form" and said she would be "cursed" by hearing the novel. She is seeking about $100,000 in damages from her former school for religious discrimination.

"I admit I said to the child that I don't do witchcraft in any form," she said. "I was put in the position that listening to the child reading this book would compromise my religious beliefs."


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; United Kingdom
KEYWORDS: beliefs; christian; discrimination; harrypotter
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To: ishabibble

Sorry. I have now read that post. There remain many others who embrace the view you stated earlier, though, so perhaps it would be relevant to them. One of my kids brought a Harry Potter book with him to church several years ago, and one of our members was all over his mother and me about letting him read that stuff. I told him to lighten up, it’s fiction. He didn’t accept that, of course.


61 posted on 06/11/2007 7:40:57 AM PDT by NCLaw441
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To: ishabibble

Different strokes for different folks. All my classmates loved “The Lion, the Witch and the Wardrobe”, but I couldn’t get past the first chapter. Same thing with the Lord of the Rings. I know they are popular, but I just couldn’t get into them.


62 posted on 06/11/2007 7:42:16 AM PDT by retrokitten ("That's why her hair is so big. It's full of secrets!" - Damian, "Mean Girls")
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To: CholeraJoe

I totally agree.


63 posted on 06/11/2007 7:45:11 AM PDT by retrokitten ("That's why her hair is so big. It's full of secrets!" - Damian, "Mean Girls")
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To: ishabibble

I choose not to live in paranoia.


64 posted on 06/11/2007 7:47:32 AM PDT by azhenfud (The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God.)
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To: azhenfud
I choose not to live in paranoia.

Is that one of those new countries formed from the breakup of Yugoslavia?

65 posted on 06/11/2007 7:53:45 AM PDT by Oztrich Boy (conservatism as the fusion of libertarianism and traditionalism - John Stuart Mill and Edmund Burke)
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To: null and void

There are some things that should be absolutely banned from public school. For example, the reading of pornography. One of my fellow education students said he had a teacher bring in Playboy because the articles were well-written and the teacher thought they would interest students in reading. The argument that allowing students to read anything as long as they are reading has its obvious logical limits. The problem simply becomes where to draw that line.

But when you’re teaching in a public school, there is a need to be consistent with accepted standards. While I don’t believe that Harry Potter should be included in “accepted public standcards,” I don’t control that. They are partly responsible for the growth of interest in witchcraft and I personally believe that that’s a problem. I frankly have a problem with a lot of what is taught and introduced in the public schools today, but I think I can have a much greater influence by trying to be a force of reason in the midst of the insanity than by always complaining about it. Teach kids how to think calmly and rationally. Some things clearly deserve a public “rant,” but you can’t do that often and I want to preserve that for the worst of the worst. Otherwise, you destroy your credibility.

Plus, I’m also aware of how my Heavenly Father has dealt with me over the years. I haven’t always been the most obedient or loving of children, but He has always been patient, never hateful, forceful or raving. He speaks and moves gently in my life because he wants my mind and soul, given by my choice. I think I have a responsibility to do the same to the young charges who come my way.


66 posted on 06/11/2007 7:59:19 AM PDT by twigs
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To: NCLaw441; retrokitten
It’s all a matter of choice! I loved all of Stephen King’s books until I started the Dark Tower series, I don’t think I read more than 20 pages. My favourite was The Green Mile, which was marketed in serial fashion. Three chapters each, IIRC. The entire book ended up costing about 30 bucks for paperback, but the experience was well worth it.

There was a thread by PJ Comix yesterday on this topic, he said that when he visits a home, he always looks at the books of the homeowners. Mr. X and I mix our books together(mainly because he never puts any books back on the shelves) but there are also books that belonged to my kids.
So, on one shelf there are books by Karl Marx, a book on the lives of Catholic saints, The Indian in the Cupboard, and Bernie Goldberg’s latest. Right now, I am reading the short stories of Willa Cather. Mr. X wouldn’t read it if you put a gun to his head!

I guess my point is that reading is one of the most intensely personal things that someone does...and there is no “one right way”.

67 posted on 06/11/2007 8:00:00 AM PDT by ishabibble (ALL AMERICAN INFIDEL)
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To: ishabibble

You said: I guess my point is that reading is one of the most intensely personal things that someone does...and there is no “one right way”.
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I could not agree with you more.


68 posted on 06/11/2007 8:06:24 AM PDT by NCLaw441
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To: twigs
but I think I can have a much greater influence by trying to be a force of reason in the midst of the insanity than by always complaining about it. Teach kids how to think calmly and rationally.

Were that there were a million teachers like you.

The current mal-education goal is to teach innocent children to feeeeeeeeeel not to think, NEVER to think.

69 posted on 06/11/2007 8:32:50 AM PDT by null and void (Wherever liberty has sprouted around the world, we find its seeds were watered with American blood)
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To: null and void
A pity, isn't it? I've just been reading Atlas Shrugged and have been really surprized at how long this has been going on.
70 posted on 06/11/2007 8:36:04 AM PDT by twigs
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To: twigs

One boils a frog a degree at a time...


71 posted on 06/11/2007 8:37:06 AM PDT by null and void (Wherever liberty has sprouted around the world, we find its seeds were watered with American blood)
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To: null and void

There is some good that comes out of these kinds of threads. Whenever I read one of the “Harry Potter is evil” posts I have more incentive to write my own fantasy story in hopes that some day I can see the naysayers on a thread about my book.


72 posted on 06/11/2007 8:38:36 AM PDT by HungarianGypsy
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To: NCLaw441

Don’t forget! We should never teach children about the Greeks either. That mythology could make them think they might run into Hercules or something.


73 posted on 06/11/2007 8:40:13 AM PDT by HungarianGypsy
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To: NCLaw441

One of the cutest conversations I ever heard in church was while waiting for a class to start. Two old ladies were talking about when one of them was taking her grandchild to see the new Harry Potter movie. She seemed to have read the books, too.


74 posted on 06/11/2007 8:42:28 AM PDT by HungarianGypsy
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To: HungarianGypsy

DO IT!

There is aways a shortage of good literature!


75 posted on 06/11/2007 8:45:04 AM PDT by null and void (Wherever liberty has sprouted around the world, we find its seeds were watered with American blood)
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To: HungarianGypsy
Besides, the Greeks were ALL pagans...
76 posted on 06/11/2007 8:46:00 AM PDT by null and void (Wherever liberty has sprouted around the world, we find its seeds were watered with American blood)
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To: ishabibble

I totally agree.


77 posted on 06/11/2007 8:48:09 AM PDT by retrokitten ("That's why her hair is so big. It's full of secrets!" - Damian, "Mean Girls")
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To: HungarianGypsy

I love fantasy. And myth. And I don’t lack imagination. But witchcraft is itself inherently evil, so when it is supposedly the force of good, I have a problem with it. It confuses good and evil. I love stories with elements of the supernatural in it; the supernatural makes great fantasy. But it needs to be clear about the forces of good and evil. Witchcraft itself is not good.


78 posted on 06/11/2007 8:48:57 AM PDT by twigs
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To: null and void
Oh! I've been working on it. I have the background and the full outline, plus the first six chapters to flesh out. Then, I can finally get things done. It's the whole having time to write without children saying "blah. blah. Mommy! blah. blah. blah. Mommy!" that's the problem. I can write on here with the interruptions, but when I am writing on my story I want a certain atmosphere.

The good thing is I have had to educate myself more on religions, history, and mythology.

79 posted on 06/11/2007 8:50:58 AM PDT by HungarianGypsy
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To: HungarianGypsy
LOL, while we were waiting in line for one of the later HP books this rude guy cut in front of all of us.

Being who I am, and near the front of the line, I said "Hey buddy! The line starts way back there!"

He glared at me, looked down his nose and snottily said, "I'm not here for that Harry Potter book, I'M here for HILLARY's Book."

I looked back into his eyes with the most sympathetic expression possible on my face and calmly replied, "You poor delusional creature. At least we know we are buying a work of fiction"...

80 posted on 06/11/2007 8:53:12 AM PDT by null and void (Wherever liberty has sprouted around the world, we find its seeds were watered with American blood)
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