Posted on 06/08/2007 9:59:50 AM PDT by tsmith130
Foxs News Alert...that's all so far.
Overthrow of the U.S. Constitution possibly in the works?
I smell a rat.
There’s another possibility. Pace doesn’t want to go through it. President Bush’s desires either way notwithstanding. Maybe you care, maybe you don’t. Free Republic has more in common now with DU and other hate Bush sites. The first, the very first words out of most mouths in this place now is to assume the worst possible anti-Bush reasons for whatever happens, and to use inexcusable gutter rhetoric when stating those assumptions.
maybe a dumb question, but whats the difference between a “war czar” and a joint chiefs’ chairman?
You may be right. I wouldn’t be making the assumption if there weren’t so many precedents.
The Scooter Libby affair has been really disturbing to me. Not the Democrat proclivity to cheat and lie and play the politics of the gutter, which we have learned to expect from them over the years, but the repeated failures of the administration to anticipate it and to deal with it in the obvious ways, short of throwing a loyal aide over the side and leaving him to fend for himself.
Bush is a man of honor, and most of his opponents are not. But I wish he would learn more effective ways of dealing with this corruption, anticipating it and blocking it in the obvious ways. What this latest affair will teach the top military leadership is to cover their behinds and not to speak out, and that’s not a good thing.
EXACTLY!
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There is a book (now available in paperback ):
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Unholy Alliance: Radical Islam and the American Left
(Hardcover)
by David Horowitz
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And reviews:
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Editorial Reviews
Rich Lowry, Editor National Review
David Horowitz is synonymous with pyrotechnics. A historian and polemicist of the first order, he is paid the ultimate compliment --This text refers to the Hardcover edition.
Davis Hanson, Author, Ripples of Battle
An original look at those who want us to fail in the Middle East, both at home and abroad. The --This text refers to the Hardcover edition.
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Fascinating Analysis of Leftist Goals, August 13, 2006
Reviewer: N. Sincerity - See all my reviews
A former 1960s radical, Horowitz is well-acquainted with the Leftist mindset. In this book, he strives to explain the modern alliance between left wing progressivists and radical Islamofascists. He argues that this alliance is based on a common desire to destroy Western capitalism. Leftist sympathy with Islamofascist ideas makes no sense from an intellectual point of view, given that countries ruled by radical Islamists are among the most racist, sexist, theocratic states in the world today. However, Leftists have recognized that they can benefit politically from destructive terrorist attacks on the Western world. A West under attack can be made to turn on its leaders in fear and desperation (as they did in Spain after the Madrid train bombings). Only once people reject current government structures can the Left execute its anti-capitalist revolution and build a new reality that mirrors the Leftist view of utopia.
The complete and utter idealogical hypocrisy of the Islamofascist-Leftist alliance is distressing, but as Horowitz reminds us,
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Another good man and patriot sacrificed at the altar of political correctness, demasculization and RINO timidity. Gracias, El Presidente Jorge Boosh, you #%%@$^@$!
The homosexual agenda thing is really turning (even more)poisonous. Now, in order to hold any kind of public post, a person has to embrace the “gay” agenda, or at least have nothing negative (aka as “truthful”) to say about it at all.
WTH is going on here is that we are being shown what a bunch of pussies are in charge. Gates would have to stand on Dubya’s shoulders in order to kiss Gen. Pace’s arse, yet “political considerations”, meaning those mean old Democrats, have the administration shaking in their Bass Weejuns.
Can’t speak for Conway, but you’re wrong about Mattis. He’s probably the best combat commander the Marine Corps has produced since Korea.
Semper Fi
WASHINGTON - Defense Secretary Robert Gates said Friday he has decided to replace the chairman and vice chairman of the joint chiefs of staff rather than have them go through contentious hearings before Congress.
Some of you have already seen and commented.
I dunno, even my imagination isn’t this wild...
Speaking to reporters, and referring to the debate over the war in Iraq, Gates said he envisioned a confirmation process that would not be in the best interest of the country were he to renominate Marine Gen. Peter Pace as chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff and Adm. Ed Giambiastiani as vice chairman.
Gates told reporters he had recommended that Adm. Mike Mullen, currently chief of naval operations, replace Pace.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/19112660/
It’s on my shelf, under about 4 other books to read first (the order of this study is important). I look forward to reading this work by Horowitz.
Thanks for the recommendation.
Gates Recommends Mullen to Replace Pace as Chairman
By Jim Garamone
American Forces Press Service
WASHINGTON, June 8, 2007 To avoid a contentious reconfirmation process, Defense Secretary Robert M. Gates will recommend that President Bush nominate Chief of Naval Operations Adm. Michael G. Mullen to replace Marine Gen. Peter Pace as chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff.
In a Pentagon news conference today, Gates said he also will recommend Marine Gen. James E. Cartwright for the position of vice chairman. Cartwright is the commander of U.S. Strategic Command. Navy Adm. Edmund P. Giambastiani Jr., the current vice chairman, announced his decision to retire last week.
I have become well acquainted with Admiral Mullen over the last six months and believe he has the strategic insight, experience and integrity to lead Americas armed forces, Gates said.
Gates said he intended to re-nominate Pace and Giambastiani but after consulting with senators of both parties came to the conclusions that because General Pace has served as chairman and vice chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff for the last six years, the focus of his confirmation process would have been on the past rather than the future.
He said the confirmation process would have the possibility of being quite contentious. I am no stranger to contentious confirmations, and I do not shrink from them, Gates said. However, I have decided at this moment in our history, the nation, our men and women in uniform, and General Pace himself would not be well-served by a divisive ordeal in selecting the next chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff.
Pace will continue to serve as chairman until his term ends Sept. 30. He is the first Marine to hold the position.
Pace, a 1967 graduate of the U.S. Naval Academy, served as a rifle platoon leader in Vietnam and commanded at all levels of the Marine Corps. He was serving as the commander of U.S. Southern Command when nominated to be the vice chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff in 2001. He took office weeks after the 2001 terrorist attacks in New York and Washington.
In 2005, he was nominated to be the chairman. The chairman serves as the principle military advisor to the president, secretary of defense and the National Security Council.
Mullen is a 1968 graduate of the Naval Academy. He is surface-warfare qualified and has commanded three ships: the USS Noxabee, the USS Goldsborough and the USS Yorktown. As a flag officer he commanded the USS George Washington Battle Group and served as the commander of U.S. 2nd Fleet/NATO Striking Fleet Atlantic.
Gates said that Pace has served as a Marine for more than 40 years. He deserves the deepest thanks of the American people for a lifetime of service to our country and for his leadership, Gates said. I have thoroughly enjoyed working with him, trust him completely, and value his candor and willingness to speak his mind.
http://www.defenselink.mil/news/newsarticle.aspx?id=46351
Gates said he intended to re-nominate Pace and Giambastiani but after consulting with senators of both parties came to the conclusions that because General Pace has served as chairman and vice chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff for the last six years, the focus of his confirmation process would have been on the past rather than the future.
He said the confirmation process would have the possibility of being quite contentious. I am no stranger to contentious confirmations, and I do not shrink from them, Gates said. However, I have decided at this moment in our history, the nation, our men and women in uniform, and General Pace himself would not be well-served by a divisive ordeal in selecting the next chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff.
http://www.defenselink.mil/news/newsarticle.aspx?id=46351
Maybe not completely but my gues is that it had 99 44/100% to do with it. Maybe the other 56/100% was that he does not believe in made made global warming.
But, be as that may, the real credit for what the Democrats are doing and are going to do to the Country goes to the American voter 2006 version. Without them the Democrats could not do what they are doing.
Persian Gulf (Dec. 21, 2006) - Chief of Naval Operations (CNO) Adm. Mike Mullen talks to crewmembers aboard the Nimitz-class aircraft carrier USS Dwight D. Eisenhower (CVN 69). Eisenhower and embarked Carrier Air Wing Seven (CVW-7) are on a regularly scheduled deployment in support of Maritime Security Operations and the global war on terrorism. U.S. Navy Photo by Mass Communication Specialist Seaman Apprentice Laura Thuman
You sound like a sea lawyer because you don’t know s*** about Mattis.
General who called gay sex immoral to retire
Planned successor backs Dont Ask, Dont Tell
By JOSHUA LYNSEN | Jun 8, 4:49 PM
WASHINGTON Three months after the nations top general called gay sex immoral, he is headed for retirement.
Marine Gen. Peter Pace, chair of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, will retire when his term ends in September. Navy Adm. Michael Mullen, who backs Dont Ask, Dont Tell, will be nominated to replace him.
U.S. Defense Secretary Robert Gates said Friday the congressional confirmation needed before Pace could serve another term could have become a very contentious process, dwelling on the past, rather than the future.
Steve Ralls, a spokesman for Servicemembers Legal Defense Network, an organization that seeks to allow open military service for gays, said the homophobic remarks Pace made in March might have influenced the decision.
Gen. Paces remarks are still fresh in the memory of many of our troops, he said, and no doubt still fresh in the memory of many senators, too.
Pace, who has long supported Dont Ask, Dont Tell, reiterated his stance during an interview with the Chicago Tribune.
I believe homosexual acts between two individuals are immoral and that we should not condone immoral acts, he said. I do not believe the United States is well served by a policy that says it is OK to be immoral in any way.
Pace later acknowledged that he intertwined his personal and professional stances when he discussed the policy, but did not apologize.
It is our hope that the next nominee for chairman will be respectful and value the service of every member of the military, including the over 60,000 GLBT troops currently on active duty, said Brad Luna, spokesperson for Human Rights Campaign.
Open to change?
Mullen, who will be recommended to succeed Pace, said April 3 at the Brookings Institution in Washington that Dont Ask, Dont Tell has served us very well.
But he also said that he would be open to reconsidering the issue.
If its time to revisit that policy, the American people I believe and we live in a country the American people ought to raise that issue and well have the debate, he said according to a transcript.
As a member of the Joint Chiefs and obviously the head of one of the services, I will contribute to that and give my best military advice based on what the debate thats going on, and if it changes, it changes. I think thats the path right now.
Ralls said Servicemembers Legal Defense Network welcomes any opportunity for debate.
Public opinion is soundly on the side of revisiting this law, he said. Eight out of 10 Americans want to see it repealed. So we hope that Adm. Mullen will play a productive part of that public discussion.
http://www.washblade.com/thelatest/thelatest.cfm?blog_id=13003
Unfortunately for them, 9-11 derailed the strategy, which wasn't fully reconstituted until 2005. Following the congressional election in 2006, the usurpers are at it full tilt. They are quite mad, and would as soon see the country destroyed rather than lose power again.
BTW, it was amusing that the democrats and the infamous "9-11 Commission" had no problem in faulting the Bush administration with failing to "connect the dots" vis a vis the pre-9-11 intelligence, while conveniently ignoring that fact that Democrats were viciously obstructing Bush's appointments from January 2001 through August 2001.
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