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It's Not Over
NRO ^ | 6/8/07 | Kathryn Jean Lopez

Posted on 06/08/2007 4:33:15 AM PDT by savedbygrace

It's Not Over [Kathryn Jean Lopez]

A Senate aide cautions:

First, yes, the victory yesterday - a product of tireless efforts by a handful of conservative Senators and staff - is a nice pause in this debacle. But I am afraid that is all it may be... the White House is still 100% committed to getting this bill passed. Harry Reid is looking to actually accomplish SOMETHING for crying out loud... and there is no tiring by ... the entire "deal-making" team. The White House has a full plan of attack. They are ready to start plucking votes one-by-one. Conservatives should note precisely which Senators were with us on defeating cloture and compare that to how Senators may change if the bill comes back... in other words, we should make sure we know which Senators are bought-off if the White House does what we believe they will. The sad reality is that people are putting far too much stock in the votes against cloture for some of the deal-makers. Some felt they had to vote that way in order to be "fair" to the caucus. However, those guys were ready to vote the other way if they had felt they could get away with it. Seriously, don't make too much of their votes... there were very specific reasons why they did it - and it had to do with the tough stances of a few conservative senators...

06/08 05:56 AM


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Government; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: aliens; amnesty; bds; immigrantlist; immigration
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To: AuntB

That name calling stuff is uncalled for.


121 posted on 06/08/2007 8:19:53 AM PDT by freedomson (Tagline comment removed by moderator)
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To: jveritas

“How many of these 20 millions illegal immigrants would have become a citizen? In order for them to become citizens they need to go back to their countries and apply for a Green Card from there.”

Under that bill, if it was a “hardship” to prove POB (if it took longer than sayyyyyyyyyy 72 hours)...you get a z visa.

Osama could come in...since the amendment to do thourough background checks was stricken down. Read the bill.


122 posted on 06/08/2007 8:22:23 AM PDT by taxed2death (A few billion here, a few trillion there...we're all friends right?)
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To: savedbygrace

The logic of all this is amazing...As it stands with the bill mostly dead the borders will remain open for another two to five years because congress is staled on immigration and 90% of the fence is not funded.


123 posted on 06/08/2007 8:26:35 AM PDT by Earthdweller (All reality is based on faith in something.)
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To: Phantom Patriot

Agreed.


124 posted on 06/08/2007 8:29:12 AM PDT by savedbygrace (SECURE THE BORDERS FIRST (I'M YELLING ON PURPOSE))
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To: Earthdweller
The logic of all this is amazing...As it stands with the bill mostly dead the borders will remain open for another two to five years because congress is staled on immigration and 90% of the fence is not funded.

You are right it is amazing. Did anyone think, Well I guess we have to enforce what is already on the books. Christ I think an elementary school child could figure that out. Well, if they speak English. Maybe. LOL.

125 posted on 06/08/2007 8:30:23 AM PDT by Phantom Patriot (From my cold dead hands.)
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To: Phantom Patriot

You can’t enforce what is on the books...there are enough loopholes in the laws for a camel jockey to ride through.


126 posted on 06/08/2007 8:31:46 AM PDT by Earthdweller (All reality is based on faith in something.)
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To: FightThePower!

IF he does not put the US first, then what’s with the war.


127 posted on 06/08/2007 8:32:20 AM PDT by Fawn (If it wasn't for FR, I'd be having an Existential MELTDOWN..............right now)
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To: Earthdweller

That is what has allowed them to circumvent the law for all these years. Loopholes and misinterpretations


128 posted on 06/08/2007 8:35:16 AM PDT by Phantom Patriot (From my cold dead hands.)
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To: Phantom Patriot
Yes...and now it's all gonna be the same..just the way the open borders people planned it.
129 posted on 06/08/2007 8:36:36 AM PDT by Earthdweller (All reality is based on faith in something.)
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To: Earthdweller
You can’t enforce what is on the books...there are enough loopholes in the laws for a camel jockey to ride through.

Wait a minute. Isn’t that what we are all concerned about. LOL

130 posted on 06/08/2007 8:37:28 AM PDT by Phantom Patriot (From my cold dead hands.)
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To: savedbygrace
“No man’s Life, Liberty, or Property are safe as long as Congress is in session” - Will Rodgers
131 posted on 06/08/2007 8:40:03 AM PDT by null and void ("Wherever liberty has sprouted around the world, we find American blood at its roots.")
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To: Phantom Patriot
Problem is..it takes congress to change the laws so they can be enforced and they can't agree on anything anymore.

Most of the lobbyists got everyone worked up over a bad bill so they have a few more years to get a "good" one. Yeah right. That will be the day.

132 posted on 06/08/2007 8:40:13 AM PDT by Earthdweller (All reality is based on faith in something.)
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To: Sir Francis Dashwood; MNJohnnie
Mexican nationals have no allegiance to the United States.

Mexico is not our friend and never has been.

Mexico opposes our war efforts.

Mexico is an enemy.

Mexico sucks.

Equally true:

Congress members have no allegiance to the United States.

Congress is not our friend and never has been.

Congress opposes our war efforts.

Congress is an enemy.

Congress sucks.

'nuff said?

133 posted on 06/08/2007 8:44:41 AM PDT by null and void ("Wherever liberty has sprouted around the world, we find American blood at its roots.")
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To: CindyDawg
I was reading a post about someone who had been here illegally about 20 years. Why? This person had a chance to get legal the last round.

Please don't sully this thread with facts and truth...

134 posted on 06/08/2007 8:46:54 AM PDT by null and void ("Wherever liberty has sprouted around the world, we find American blood at its roots.")
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To: stevio
Why doesn’t he use an executive order?

SHUT. THE. FULK. UP!!!!

Do NOT give him any new ideas.

135 posted on 06/08/2007 8:52:08 AM PDT by null and void ("Wherever liberty has sprouted around the world, we find American blood at its roots.")
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To: null and void

He doesn’t listen to what we say here anyway.


136 posted on 06/08/2007 8:56:20 AM PDT by stevio ((NRA))
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To: null and void

He doesn’t listen to what we say here anyway.


137 posted on 06/08/2007 8:57:03 AM PDT by stevio ((NRA))
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To: stevio

*sigh*

The Majority is not Silent.
The Government is Deaf.

70’s bumper sticker...


138 posted on 06/08/2007 8:58:53 AM PDT by null and void ("Wherever liberty has sprouted around the world, we find American blood at its roots.")
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To: null and void

Congress members have no allegiance to the United States.

Congress is not our friend and never has been.

Congress opposes our war efforts.

Congress is an enemy.

Congress sucks.

‘nuff said?

LOUD and clear


139 posted on 06/08/2007 8:59:13 AM PDT by Phantom Patriot (From my cold dead hands.)
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To: Phantom Patriot

I hate myself...


140 posted on 06/08/2007 9:00:31 AM PDT by null and void ("Wherever liberty has sprouted around the world, we find American blood at its roots.")
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