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This just again proves that Kalifornia is a hardcore socialist state.

Professor Walter Williams, an economics professor from George Mason Univeristy and a well known op-ed columnist, has written many times on how government screws up the free market with laws just like this one. These types of laws always have unintended consequences and ends up making life worse for everybody (except the politicians and bureaucrats.)

They can have my SUV when they pry it from my cold dead fingers!

1 posted on 06/07/2007 8:43:40 AM PDT by DogByte6RER
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2 posted on 06/07/2007 8:44:03 AM PDT by DogByte6RER ("Loose lips sink ships")
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Yes, now that the SF leftists have congress watch out. Here comes Robbin Hood and his merry men a taxing. They say they take from the rich and give to the poor, but don’t forget their on the take and their buddies get a good share of the loot.


3 posted on 06/07/2007 8:46:54 AM PDT by sr4402
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Just raise gas taxes there. Same effect but you’d encourage all sorts of high mileage cars, not just hybrids.


4 posted on 06/07/2007 8:47:21 AM PDT by P-40 (Al Qaeda was working in Iraq. They were just undocumented.)
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Not long before this is applead to steaks and alfalfa sprouts as well.


5 posted on 06/07/2007 8:48:03 AM PDT by PBRSTREETGANG
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Hey why do those mini-van owners always get a pass? Surely some of them get as poor mileage as my 6 cylinder truck.
6 posted on 06/07/2007 8:48:51 AM PDT by rhombus
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When this passes the politicians will be astounded when dealers in Nevada and Arizona suddenly start selling more large SUVs to Californians.

“If only this were a Federal law”, they will sternly announce.

Sound familiar?


9 posted on 06/07/2007 8:51:10 AM PDT by Disambiguator
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Here is a very recent and most excellent column by Professor Walter Williams on this EXACT topic:

http://www.wnd.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=56026

“The immorality of government theft”

This is a MUST READ!


10 posted on 06/07/2007 8:52:02 AM PDT by DogByte6RER ("Loose lips sink ships")
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Here's one way to combat global warming: Take $2,500 out of the pockets of new Hummer owners and give it to buyers of the Toyota Prius.

And that's exactly what is happening at the pump, except that the leftards can't figure it out.

12 posted on 06/07/2007 8:54:24 AM PDT by white trash redneck (Everything I needed to know about Islam I learned on 9-11-01.)
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This will change many people's behavior

Lets destroy what is left of California and keep electing Democrats. How much longer should we tolerate these nut cases. Since when did we elect this nitwits to be behavior police with my choice of what I want to drive.

15 posted on 06/07/2007 8:58:17 AM PDT by Logical me (Oh, well!!!)
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Interesting. I’m most likely going to drive my Hummer to Malibu sometime in the next few weeks with a friend to pick up a ‘Spider’ sportscar replica (James Dean’s death car two seater).

I’ll be sure to wave at the envirowackos while driving the hummer and pulling a large trailer with the other car....(chuckle)


18 posted on 06/07/2007 9:02:21 AM PDT by Badeye (You know its a kook site when they ban the word 'kook')
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They want to steal from the pockets of SUV owners (eevil to liberals) to put in the pockets of Toyota Prius owners (environmentally correct saints). Wealth redistribution lives in California.

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelologus

20 posted on 06/07/2007 9:05:00 AM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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Doesn’t the mileage count for anything?

We have a Suburban that we put only about 5,000 miles a year on. Compare that to someone with an economy car who puts 25,000+ miles a year. Which one pollutes more?


22 posted on 06/07/2007 9:10:38 AM PDT by randita
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Take $2,500 out of the pockets of new Hummer owners and give it to buyers of the Toyota Prius.

DANGER!!!!

Severe, radical, out-of-control and unrestrained COMMUNISM at work!!!!

24 posted on 06/07/2007 9:14:58 AM PDT by DustyMoment (FloriDUH - proud inventors of pregnant/hanging chads and judicide!!)
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"This will penalize large families and the working men and women of California who depend on larger vehicles for their way of life," said Charles Territo, spokesman for the Alliance of Automobile Manufacturers

I don't think the stinking filthy idiot democrat liberals would argue with that. This is what they want, a penalty for having families that work and earn their own way through life. Illegals will probably get a waiver so they don't have to pay the "surcharge."

27 posted on 06/07/2007 9:20:18 AM PDT by subterfuge (Today, Tolerance =greatest virtue;Hypocrisy=worst character defect; Discrimination =worst atrocity)
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The high cost of fuel is enough of a tax for the yuppies who think they need an off-road vehicle to go to starbucks everyday. For those who need the hauling and off-road capabilities of an SUV, I understand the purchase. For 90% of SUV owners I don’t. I don’t understand spending more money to get a slower, thirster, worse handling, poorer braking, and poorer riding vehicle. It makes no sense whatsover. Home Depot rents trucks for next to nothing. Use one of those for the one time a year you buy something big.


30 posted on 06/07/2007 9:27:40 AM PDT by SmoothTalker
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The law of unintended consequences will once again prevail. When congress passed the CAFE standards they exempted trucks. Trucks are used differently than passenger vehicles and things like load, towing capacity and power are significantly more important to their purpose. The result was that the family station wagon hurt the fleet average of an auto manufacturer, but the SUV (which consumed even more gas) did not, because it fell in the truck category. In other words the interference in the free market by a “do-gooder” nanny congress resulted in more not less gas consumption.

The current proposals at the federal level will further interfere with the market and are infact anti-family. If one has more than two or three children the legal options for family transportation will be limited to expensive SUV’s or perhaps a minivan that is underpowered to meet new standards. Passenger miles as opposed to vehicle miles is not even considered.

The free market will take care of itself if congress, at all levels of government, will stay out. A recent poll shows most want cars that get 40 mpg. Fine- Detroit or Korea will produce one if feasible and those that desire can purchase it. Honda has made one for decades so I guess CIVIC sales will boom. I think however the poll is a little like asking if you would like to win the lottery - a majority will answer yes -but if you were to spread the pot to everyone who wants a share their winnings would total less than the price of a ticket. Its just not feasible, even if there was a law.

America has voted - they like cup-holders, acceleration and room to haul things more than they like 40 MPG.

Only a petty dictator would limit choices, punish production and think to be god over the economy, but then we are talking about CA.


31 posted on 06/07/2007 9:32:04 AM PDT by DaveyB (Ignorance is part of the human condition - atheism makes it permanent!)
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from each according to their ability to each according to their need...

seems the politicians are being a little more blatent about the commie beliefs.


38 posted on 06/07/2007 10:06:50 AM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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I read not too long ago, can’t remember where, damnit, re: zinc batteries in hybrids. The mining and processing entailed until it ends up in a car expends more energy than driving a Hummer for thirty years.


41 posted on 06/07/2007 10:17:36 AM PDT by synbad600
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So will the self-righteous hippies be subsidizing increased medical costs sure to result in accidents sustained while driving their sanctimonymobiles?

This versus the certainly reduced medical costs incurred by pasengers enjoying the much safer ride provided by an SUV?

Of course if they are killed dead in their tiny, tinny condescension machines, I guess that’s pretty cheap too.


46 posted on 06/07/2007 10:43:42 AM PDT by EyeGuy
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Why isn’t there a tax-guzzler fee?


47 posted on 06/07/2007 10:44:32 AM PDT by Larry Lucido (Duncan Hunter 2008 (or Fred Thompson if he ever makes up his mind))
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