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Psalms 12:8 The wicked freely strut about when what is vile is honored among men.
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Posted on 06/06/2007 8:58:27 PM PDT by JRochelle
An AP article just came across the wire detailing another gaffe by presidential hopeful Mitt Romney (R-Mass.). Apparently, while in New Hampshire, Romney was confronted by an openly gay women who was disturbed by the former governor’s position on gay marriage. And in challenging him, she may have unwittingly changed or re-changed or re-re-changed his position on “gay rights.”
“There are other ways to raise kids that’s fine: single moms, grandparents raising kids, gay couples raising kids. That’s the American way, to have people have their freedom of choice,” he said.
Umm… what? We’ve lost track now, but we thought Romney opposed gay adoption and gay marriage. We have stopped being surprised by his all-too-often position changes - even from one month to the next - but we certainly never expected him to say “gay couples raising kids” is “the American way.”
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Psalms 12:8 The wicked freely strut about when what is vile is honored among men.
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Why do folks have a jones for any politician? We should be suspicious of them ALL! Romney is a great man, Hunter is our guy, blah, blah, blah....
It's like picking which disease you would rather have.
I appreciate you though-out and Respectful opinion, but the point is we SHOULDN”T have to “parse” his words, they should be straight forword ala Ronald Reagan, “Our Great Communicator”, I will disagree with the idea that Mitt is a true RR Conservative for the following Reasons:
1)Flip-Flopping (true he DID have a true conversion on some issues such as abortion, stem-cells), yet the timing of his change is suspect:
2)I don’t believe he is genuine in some of his “conservative” positions: He says he is for heterosexual “traditional” marriage, yet won’t go on record AGAINST special rights for homosexuals (no one rationally should believe they should be denied righst (explicitly GRANTED) in teh U.S. Constitution, yet that is far differt from promoting immorality by giving “Special Rights”).
3)Hillary Care in Massachusetts: Sure some will claim it was supported by The Heritage Foundation, CATO, yet (the Heritage Foundations’ opionion has been split on it ever since): I CONTEND IT IS NEITHER CONSERVATIVE nor BENEFICIAL to make the Government force Consumption (the Purchace of Health Insurance) upon individual citizens! There could have been another way..
4)(Sorry to bring this up for those of you from MA, but the predecessors of your state bring up a certain immiage-weight to people that live there). He’s from MA, like it or not the land of John Kerry, Ted Kennedy, Every Other Kennedy (the exception being maybe John), Mike Dukakus Sp.?, Rep. Markey (Big-as-dem-Blowhard), Barney Franks + BOSTON (Granted it was GOOD back in the teaparty, John Hancock, Samuel Adams, Ect, but back then it still had the remnants of “Puritanism”, IMO which was a good thing!).
5)He’s too slick (almost like a NE, or NY political opperative) saying anything to just gain votes..
6)He’s too connected to the Business community, and not enough to ordinary average folks (Granted the “Business Community” is not UNIFORM, but by and large the may be Semi-Republican, but they are out for ONE thing: Their OWN Arse (pardon my language) $$$$. Now Everyone knows THESE $$$ Fols, are not exactly known as Conservatives even since the Reagan days: PUSHING (However short-sittedly) for ILLIGAL IMMIGRATION, CORPORATE WELFARE, THE MARRIAGE OF BIG BUSINESS-FED,STATE GOVERNMENT, INTERNATIONAL-TRANSNATIONALISM (Just look at 90% of Earmarks to make my point). Anyone too connected to the Wall-Street-Journal I am VERY WARY about! They’re not “exactly conservative”.
7)He was the Governor of Massachusetts! Need I say more..
How LIBERAL do you REALLY have to be to become elected to the Chief-Executive’s Office of THE MOST LIBERAL STATE IN THE UNION (Going on 40 years NOW!)? (Not even 1 Republican, Mind you Just Republican Representative, I didn’t say anything about a “Conservative Republican”!
8)I live in the south..
9)There are VIABLE Candidates out there such as Duncan Hunter, Tom Tancredo, Fred D. Thompson, Possibly Tommy Thompson or my personal favorite at the Moment: Gov. Mike Huckabee.
Look lets not spend ALL day (though I will respond to a few) Arguing about each and every POINT); there aren’t enough hours in the day to spend 24-7 on F.R., yet we have a difference of opinion and I just wanted to to know mine: FEEL FREE TO WRITE YOURS: THIS IS AMERICA AND we do the Freedom (God Bless-it, and our Military Personel send to protect it!) to Debate this..
That is ALL (And sorry for such a long, drawn out post ;))@! -God Bless; Jeremy S.
That must be why you've become such a disciple of Precious Willard's instead of Jesus's. No one on the GOP side speaks with a bigger forked tongue as your boy Romney. :-)
Are you offering restornu a sausage lunch ? ;-D
Well, when I pick a disease, I try to select the one that’s curable. Hangnail over lip fungus, lip fungus over herpes, herpes over cancer, cancer over AIDS. That’s why I’m behind Fred. :-)
I’m leaning towards Fred, too.
Homosexual Rights
Romney has always opposed same-sex marriage. He diligently lobbied Congress in favor of a Federal Marriage Amendment to the U.S. Constitution defining marriage to be between one man and one woman. Romney testified before the U.S. Senate Judiciary Committee on the Federal Marriage Amendment, and sent a letter to all 100 U.S. Senators on June 2, 2006 asking them to vote for the Amendment. Sen. John McCain and Rudy Giuliani opposed the FMA. Governor Romney: "A lot of people get confused that gay marriage is about treating gay people the same as treating heterosexual people, and that's not the issue involved here."
"This is about the development and nurturing of children. Marriage is primarily an institution to help develop children, and children's development, I believe, is greatly enhanced by access to a mom and a dad."
"I think every child deserves a mom and a dad, and that's why I'm so consistent and vehement in my view that we should have a federal amendment which defines marriage in that way."
(ABC News This Week interview with Mitt Romney on Feb 18, 2007) (Mitt TV Clip)
Governor Romney: "I oppose discrimination against gay people. I am not anti-gay. I know there are some Republicans, or some people in the country who are looking for someone who is anti-gay and that's not me." (Romney: I'm Not Intolerant of Gays, Associated Press, May 25, 2007)
When the Massachusetts Supreme Judicial Court ruling in the case of Goodridge v. Department of Public Health legalized same-sex marriage in Massachusetts, Gov. Romney identified and enforced a little-known 1913 state law that forbids nonresidents from marrying in Massachusetts if their marriage would not be recognized in their home state. This prevented gay couples living outside Massachusetts from flocking to MA to be married and then returning to their home states to demand the marriages be recognized, thus opening the door for nationwide same-sex marriage.
Implementation of the 1913 law was contested in court by same-sex couples from outside MA, but the Massachusetts Supreme Judicial Court ruled in March, 2006 to uphold the application of the law.
(Mass. high court says nonresident gays cannot marry in state, Boston Globe, March 30, 2006)
Gov. Romney provided active support for a citizen petition drive in 2005 that collected 170,000+ signatures for a state constitutional amendment protecting marriage. He rallied citizens to place pressure on the Legislature for failing, through repeated delays, to fulfill their constitutional obligation to vote on placing the marriage amendment on the ballot. Gov. Romney filed suit in the Massachusetts Supreme Judicial Court (SJC) asking the court to clarify the legislators’ duty to vote on the issue of the amendment, or place the amendment on the ballot if the Legislature failed to act. The SJC declared that legislators had a constitutional duty to vote on the petition in a ruling handed down on Dec. 27, 2006. The suit was successful in pressuring the Legislature to vote on the issue of the amendment. A vote was taken on January 2, 2007 and the measure passed. Through Governor Romney’s considerable efforts and leadership, a state constitutional amendment defining marriage to be between one man and one woman has passed a critical hurdle to get it placed on the 2008 ballot where voters in Massachusetts will have the power to restore traditional marriage in their state.
Mitt Romney does not favor action at the national level to sanction civil unions and would leave it to the several states to define the permissible contractual relationships between two people. Romney would not seek to impose, at the national level, a prohibition on contractual relationships between two people.
(ABC News This Week interview with Mitt Romney on Feb 18, 2007)
Governor Romney strongly defended the right of Catholic Charities in Massachusetts to deny placing adoptive children in the homes of gay couples; saying it was unjust to require a religious agency to violate the tenets of its faith in order to satisfy a special-interest group. Romney filed "An Act Protecting Religious Freedom" in the Legislature, a bill to exempt Catholic Charities of Boston and other religious groups from the state anti-discrimination law.
(Romney files 'religious freedom' bill on church and gay adoption, Boston Globe, March 15, 2006)
Whereas Mitt Romney believes sexual orientation should not preclude joining the Boy Scouts, he supports the right of local Councils of the Boy Scouts of America to decide and enforce their policy regarding homosexuals in their organization and leadership. Romney served on the Boy Scouts of America’s National Executive Board from 1993 to 2002.
Governor Romney responded to a question about the Federal Employment Non-Discrimination Act (ENDA) and gays in the military during an NRO interview with Kathryn Jean Lopez in December, 2006:
Lopez: And what about the 1994 letter to the Log Cabin Republicans where you indicated you would support the Federal Employment Non-Discrimination Act (ENDA) and seemed open to changing the "don’t ask, don’t tell" policy in the military? Are those your positions today?
Gov. Romney: "No. I don’t see the need for new or special legislation. My experience over the past several years as governor has convinced me that ENDA would be an overly broad law that would open a litigation floodgate and unfairly penalize employers at the hands of activist judges."
"As for military policy and the "don’t ask, don’t tell" policy, I trust the counsel of those in uniform who have set these policies over a dozen years ago. I agree with President Bush’s decision to maintain this policy and I would do the same."
(A Primary Factor, NRO, December 14, 2006)
You will see you are wrong!
...but even if you do know your wrong I am sure in the end you don’t care!
They why did he say two days ago “gay couple raising children..that’s fine”: Was it a Freudian Slip-of the tongue, so to speak..?
Can you read inside his mind..?
No, dearest one, I’m not wrong. Get yourself right with Jesus and support Fred, not the fork-tongued charlatan Precious Willard. Stop doing the bidding of da debbil. :-)
The more I hear from Congressman Hunter, the more I think I’ll be voting for him over Fred.
IMO, I suspect the number of Mormon’s that will vote for Romney...just because he’s also a Mormon, is huge.
We will see!
Yes. I overstated and over-generalized based on the first couple of Mormons, or at least posters posing as Mormons before yours. I did not see DephiUser's post before I posted. See my apology at #136. I should not have said, "the Mormons". I should have said, "some Mormons". I will say that one Mormon poster subsequently butressed my point about cognitive dissonance with multiple posts as if done shouting with fingers in ears, repeating the same sentence over and over, as if that would make Romney's offensive second sentence go away.
Cordially,
From one of my study Bibles: God and His glory are compared to the rising sun. See also Isaiah 60:1 and 19. Christ is the "rising sun" from Heaven.
I guess I am not seeing the Egyptian connection. God is often referred to as Light. Sun is light. I would think the two could be interchangeable. The Light (God) can heal, whether that be physical or spiritual sickness, hence the leaping about like calves. Healing is a prevalent theme throughout scripture.
But it is always good to dig into the Word and see what interesting nuggets are there. I need to do that more often, so thank you.
Reading ahead, it seems Malachi is talking about the coming "great and terrible" Day of the Lord and if the people don't repent, He will punish them as He did to Edom. So this all makes perfect sense. He is going to send His Son to heal (save) the sinners from their certain spiritual death, as they cannot keep His perfect Law, and Elijah (or the spirit of Elijah in John the Baptist) is paving the way for Christ. If this were not to happen, they would be cursed by God. This will happen again when Elijah (could he be one of the Two Witnesses in Revelation?) appears before the Second Coming of Christ.
Everytime I read the Bible, I happen upon things I glossed over before. Awesome.
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