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Spain Traps US Ships In Row Over Treasure
The Telegraph (UK) ^ | 6-7-2007 | Mike Elkin

Posted on 06/06/2007 6:12:05 PM PDT by blam

Spain traps US ships in row over treasure

By Mike Elkin in Madrid
Last Updated: 1:38am BST 07/06/2007

A Spanish court has issued a warrant for the capture and search of two American exploration ships suspected of removing sunken treasure from Spanish waters.

The ships, belonging to Odyssey Marine Exploration, which is based in Florida, are docked in Gibraltar and cannot leave because Spain controls the waters surrounding the British enclave.

A Spanish Culture Ministry spokeswoman said investigations by the Civil Guard, the Defence Ministry and Spanish prosecutors produced sufficient evidence to suspect that the vessels were operating illegally in the Alboran Sea, the western-most part of the Mediterranean Sea.

Madrid does not believe they carry precious cargo. It is interested in the ships' papers.

The court order follows a class action suit the Spanish government filed last month in a United States federal court to ensure that its property rights for anything in Odyssey's possession were honoured.

Madrid alleges that the 17 tons of gold and silver coins, worth an estimated £250 million, that Odyssey removed from undisclosed European waters may belong to the Spanish government.

The claim requests that Odyssey provides information on three alleged discoveries: the British sailing ship Merchant Royal, which sank off the Isles of Scilly in 1641 carrying Spanish cargo; an unnamed wreck which could be the British warship Sussex, which sank off Spain in 1694; and an Italian ship which sank near Sardinia.

Preliminary reports suggest the treasure hailed from the Merchant Royal, resting off the British coast.

Covington and Burling, Spain's lawyers in the United States, said that the Merchant Royal was in the service of Spain when it sank and thus the cargo belongs to Madrid.


TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: godsgravesglyphs; omr; ship; spain; treasure; us
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1 posted on 06/06/2007 6:12:06 PM PDT by blam
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To: blam
Call out the Navy, give them an armed escort home.

F--- Spain.

2 posted on 06/06/2007 6:14:57 PM PDT by Michael.SF. ("The military Mission has long since been accomplished" -- Harry Reid, April 23, 2007)
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To: blam

Is this John Edwards booty?


3 posted on 06/06/2007 6:19:44 PM PDT by jonsie
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To: Michael.SF.

How about just airlifting the cargo off?


4 posted on 06/06/2007 6:22:01 PM PDT by LetsRok
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To: LetsRok
How about just airlifting the cargo off?

Your's is a far simpler and more intelligent response.

Mine was a more immediate, from the gut reaction.

5 posted on 06/06/2007 6:27:11 PM PDT by Michael.SF. ("The military Mission has long since been accomplished" -- Harry Reid, April 23, 2007)
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To: blam

“If we are able to confirm that some other entity has a legitimate legal claim to this shipwreck when - and if - the identity is confirmed, we intend to provide legal notice to any and all potential claimants. Even if another entity is able to prove that it has an ownership interest in the shipwreck and/or cargo and that they had not legally abandoned the shipwreck, Odyssey would apply for a salvage award from the Admiralty Court. In cases such as this, salvors are typically awarded up to 90% of the recovery.
http://biz.yahoo.com/bw/070531/20070531005698.html?.v=1


6 posted on 06/06/2007 6:27:25 PM PDT by PghBaldy (Stop the ethnic cleansing of American citizens in the SW. Save America, Congress!)
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To: blam

It’s plain old piracy!


7 posted on 06/06/2007 6:28:15 PM PDT by SteveMcKing
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To: SteveMcKing

Avast!


8 posted on 06/06/2007 6:31:02 PM PDT by Army Air Corps (Four fried chickens and a coke)
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To: PghBaldy; All
ElCazador

I think Morgan Mint just bought this original find from the salvage company.

9 posted on 06/06/2007 6:33:40 PM PDT by sageb1 (This is the Final Crusade. There are only 2 sides. Pick one.)
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To: SteveMcKing
It’s plain old piracy!

I'm sure that Spain is simply anxious to get the gold so they can return it to Americas from where they stole it.

10 posted on 06/06/2007 6:33:48 PM PDT by RJL (Mexico must have incriminating photos of Bush from his drinking days.)
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To: RJL
I'm sure that Spain is simply anxious to get the gold so they can return it to Americas from where they stole it.

LOL. That's funny.
11 posted on 06/06/2007 6:36:31 PM PDT by khnyny
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To: blam
We'll be going to war with Spain in short order, but no problem.

We can pay the cost of this war with a temporary tax on phones just like we did the last time.

Maybe we can temporarily tax the internet too.

12 posted on 06/06/2007 6:37:26 PM PDT by joshhiggins (O you who believe! do not take the MUSLIMS for friends)
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To: jonsie

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13 posted on 06/06/2007 6:52:12 PM PDT by Vn_survivor_67-68
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To: Michael.SF.
Call out the Navy, give them an armed escort home.

Why should we lift a finger to help these grave robbers?

14 posted on 06/06/2007 6:54:29 PM PDT by montag813
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To: jonsie
Is this John Edwards booty?

Yes it is. Worth $19 to $24 million to him alone.

15 posted on 06/06/2007 6:55:35 PM PDT by montag813
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To: LetsRok

According to a previous post here on FR, that is exactly what they have done.

I think I would air mail all my papers home and sell the ships at the dock too.


16 posted on 06/06/2007 6:56:36 PM PDT by Cold Heart
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To: LetsRok

snip

Gibraltar’s government said the haul had nothing to do with the Sussex, a British flagship, which sank in a storm in 1694. But Ministry of Defence personnel said an Odyssey ship berthed in Gibraltar’s naval dock last week and a specially-chartered American Airlines plane landed in the British colony on Wednesday before loading cargo and flying to Tampa, Florida, where Odyssey is headquartered.
http://news.scotsman.com/index.cfm?id=792292007


17 posted on 06/06/2007 6:59:07 PM PDT by Vn_survivor_67-68
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To: blam

REMEMBER THE MAINE!!


18 posted on 06/06/2007 6:59:51 PM PDT by dfwgator (The University of Florida - Still Championship U)
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To: dfwgator
REMEMBER THE MAINE!!

RENAME IT THE MAINE!!

19 posted on 06/06/2007 7:00:52 PM PDT by Ingtar (...right wing conservatives are growing tired of crawling on bloody stumps looking for scraps - JRob)
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To: Michael.SF.
Call out the Navy, give them an armed escort home.

With its 116 cannon, the Santissima Trinidad may look like a formidable warship, but I'm betting that our Yankee clippers can outrun her before she can get off the first broadside volley.

20 posted on 06/06/2007 7:02:30 PM PDT by BlazingArizona
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