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Reid move places bill in jeopardy
The Hill ^ | June 06, 2007 | Elana Schor

Posted on 06/05/2007 7:37:10 PM PDT by Baladas

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To: Balding_Eagle

You got that right! I’m pretty fed up with them on this including Presidente Jorge Bush. It really pains me to call him that, but he leaves us no choice.


21 posted on 06/05/2007 7:58:51 PM PDT by Dahoser (Never question Mr. Nibbles!)
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To: lone star annie
Ben Nelson, Bryon Dorgan, and Sheets Byrd are opposing it.

That's 'cause I called him. When your state's population is just over 600,000, a single call makes a difference.

22 posted on 06/05/2007 8:15:35 PM PDT by Last Dakotan
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To: Dahoser

Nah if it dies the dems look weak because there in charge and none of there spin can change that


23 posted on 06/05/2007 8:23:58 PM PDT by italianquaker ("blue dog democrats", that dog don't hunt)
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To: AdmSmith; Berosus; Convert from ECUSA; dervish; Ernest_at_the_Beach; Fedora; Fred Nerks; ...

Gosh, another brilliant move by the Dhimmicrats. It’s almost as if they’ve been outmaneuvered by a supposedly stupid lame duck president...


24 posted on 06/05/2007 9:01:04 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (Time heals all wounds, particularly when they're not yours. Profile updated May 31, 2007.)
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To: Baladas
New Hampshire voters will throw out Gregg Judd at the earliest opportunity. He's not fit to be their Senator.

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelologus

25 posted on 06/05/2007 9:02:58 PM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: acoulterfan; no dems; SunkenCiv

Dorgan doesn’t like it either. IIRC, his amendment limiting temporary workers was defeated.


26 posted on 06/05/2007 9:16:50 PM PDT by neverdem (May you be in heaven a half hour before the devil knows that you're dead.)
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To: no dems

I read that both dem senators from Montana, Baucus and Tester, are opposing it.


27 posted on 06/05/2007 9:40:42 PM PDT by Montanabound
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To: no dems

Montana RATS Baucus and Tester are opposing it too.


28 posted on 06/05/2007 9:44:54 PM PDT by freespirited
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To: Baladas

BTTT


29 posted on 06/05/2007 11:12:02 PM PDT by Tennessee Nana
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To: SirJohnBarleycorn
...a plan from Sen. Kay Bailey Hutchison (R-Texas)

This is typical Kay Bailey Hutchison politics. All show with no meaningful results.

30 posted on 06/05/2007 11:23:06 PM PDT by WesternPacific
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To: Petronski

I heard somewhere today that the Democrats are starting to hear it from their constituents about this bill. If that’s the case, I would look for them to find a way to kill it without looking like they’re trying to kill it. As long as it dies, I don’t care how it’s done.


31 posted on 06/05/2007 11:25:03 PM PDT by Rastus
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To: Pelham
"Webb for one."

Really? I'm going to have to vote for him next election. It will be my first vote for a democrat.

32 posted on 06/05/2007 11:46:36 PM PDT by EverOnward
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To: Baladas

Is there a “Longer Fence Amendment”? If not, why not?


33 posted on 06/06/2007 12:03:55 AM PDT by cookcounty (No journalist ever won a prize for reporting the facts. --Telling big stories? Now that's a hit.)
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To: Baladas
Sounds like the move is to posture and make this a major issue in the 2008 elections. Vote Democrat and get amnesty for your crimes. Illegals can vote now however! The fraud in the 2008 election will likely break this country.
34 posted on 06/06/2007 3:00:12 AM PDT by Caipirabob (Communists... Socialists... Democrats...Traitors... Who can tell the difference?)
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To: SunkenCiv

Let’s not count our chickens...


35 posted on 06/06/2007 3:55:13 AM PDT by Seadog Bytes (OPM - The Liberal 'solution' to every societal problem. (Other People's Money))
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To: Baladas
The rat and the ratmedia had themselves fooled about the last electiion. They told themselves the results showed that they had beaten the new media and the ratmedia was once again in control of the flow and depth of the news. Now they have re thought and need a way to back out of the fight while still saving face with their rabid anti American base of scumbags. reid will pull his stunt to give the rat an out. The bill will fail as I have said many times from day one.
36 posted on 06/06/2007 4:24:13 AM PDT by jmaroneps37 (The Islamists plan to kill us.The Democrats and the ratmedia are helping them. Ft Dix proves it!)
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To: Seadog Bytes

The only thing Reid et al can say to the illegals lobbies is, “it was a compromise, and we rejected it *for you*”. I doubt anyone will be fooled. They are now on the wrong side of the issue from the standpoint of their supposed constituents.


37 posted on 06/06/2007 11:23:44 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (Time heals all wounds, particularly when they're not yours. Profile updated May 31, 2007.)
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To: SunkenCiv

Immigration Deal Survives Senate Threat

Thursday June 7, 2007 1:31 AM

By CHARLES BABINGTON Associated Press Writer

WASHINGTON (AP) - A proposed immigration overhaul survived a stiff challenge Wednesday as the Senate turned back a Democrat’s bid to emphasize reuniting families more than job skills for many foreigners seeking to move to the U.S.

Supporters of bipartisan compromise for legalizing 12 million unlawful immigrants invoked rules effectively requiring an amendment to win 60 votes to keep their delicate coalition from crumbling.

Sen. Robert Menendez, D-N.J., got 53 votes for his effort to delay shifting U.S. immigration policy away from keeping families together in favor of attracting more foreign workers. But that was seven votes short of the 60 needed. Voting against him were 44 senators.

The Menendez amendment would have allowed more than 800,000 people who had applied for permanent legal status by the beginning of 2007 to obtain green cards based purely on their family connections - a preference the bill ends for most relatives who got in line after May 2005.

Menendez, whose parents were Cuban immigrants, told his colleagues that the bill will undermine ``the reunification of families.’’

Meanwhile, critics of the bill’s main feature - legalizing the estimated 12 million immigrants in the U.S. unlawfully - won an amendment that could make it easier to locate and deport illegal immigrants whose visa applications are rejected.

The bill would have barred law enforcement agencies from seeing applications for so-called Z visas, which can lead to citizenship if granted. Sen. John Cornyn, R-Texas, called for lifting the ban, saying legal authorities should know if applicants have criminal records that would warrant deportation.

His measure was adopted, 57-39, although opponents said eligible applicants might be afraid to file applications if they believe they are connected to deportation actions.

Cornyn earlier lost a vote to bar from legalization people under court orders to be deported.

The vote was 51-46 against the amendment. Democrats succeeded in pulling support from Cornyn’s proposal by winning adoption of a rival version that would bar a more limited set of criminals, including certain gang members and sex offenders, from gaining legalization. The Senate backed that amendment 66-32.

Cornyn had painted his effort as a ``defining issue’’ for any presidential candidate - a sign of the degree to which the contentious debate is bleeding over into the GOP campaign fray.

Sen. John McCain, R-Ariz., alone among his party’s presidential aspirants in backing the immigration measure, opposed Cornyn’s bid and backed the Democratic alternative offered by Sen. Edward M. Kennedy, D-Mass.

McCain was joined in opposing the amendment by the Senate’s four Democratic presidential hopefuls, Sens. Joseph Biden of Delaware, Hillary Rodham Clinton of New York, Christopher Dodd of Connecticut, and Barack Obama of Illinois.

After his defeat, Cornyn said those who voted against the proposal ``failed to take an opportunity to help restore public confidence that we’re actually serious about passing an immigration law that could actually work.’’

Many Americans will conclude instead that the bill’s enforcement provisions will not be rigorously enforced, a problem that deeply undermined a 1986 immigration overhaul, he added.

Sen. Chuck Schumer, D-N.Y., called Cornyn’s measure ``a stealth, Trojan horse amendment to kill the bill.’’

In addition to legalizing millions of unlawful immigrants, the bill would tighten border security and institute new enforcement measures to prevent employers from hiring illegal workers.

Its proponents were laboring to push through the compromise under new time constraints imposed by Majority Leader Harry Reid, D-Nev., who plans to force a test vote as early as Thursday morning to end debate on it and move on to other matters.

Senators in both parties implored Reid not to yank the measure, as he has threatened to do if the test vote fails.

``I think it’s safe to say that the United States Senate would be the laughingstock of the country if - after all of the hyperbole and all of the publicity and all of the proposals and objections - we’re not able to finish this bill,’’ said Sen. Arlen Specter, R-Pa., a framer.

Other amendments defeated Wednesday included a Democratic effort to alter the temporary guest worker program that would be created by the bill.

Sen. Jeff Bingaman of New Mexico wanted to allow workers to come for six consecutive years. The Senate voted 57-41 to reject the amendment, retaining the bill’s call for most guest workers to go home for a year between each of three two-year stints.


Associated Press writer Julie Hirschfeld David contributed to this report.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/worldlatest/story/0,,-6689761,00.html


38 posted on 06/06/2007 5:58:58 PM PDT by Seadog Bytes (OPM - The Liberal 'solution' to every societal problem. (Other People's Money))
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To: Seadog Bytes

...I’ve got this Ted Nugent song from the mid-70s going through my head, and just can’t shake it for some reason...

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1845275/posts?page=24#24

To: Rodney King

The biggest threat to low income blacks comes from the illegal alien invasion.

If Obama cares for his people, he better come out against this amnesty bill and the open border waves that will follow.

It should be illuminating to black America that both the Republicans AND Democrats have dumped them in favor of the increasing hispanic minority (soon to be majority, gringo). LaRaza has replaced the NAACP as the special interest du jour.

24 posted on 06/05/2007 2:18:54 PM EDT by oldbill


39 posted on 06/07/2007 8:15:19 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (Time heals all wounds, particularly when they're not yours. Profile updated May 31, 2007.)
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