Posted on 06/05/2007 2:50:43 PM PDT by CounterCounterCulture
Republican Presidential Candidate Debate #3 - Manchester, New Hampshire 06/05/07 - Official Discussion Thread
WMUR-TV, CNN, and the New Hampshire Union Leader will host a Republican debate in Manchester, New Hampshire on the campus of Saint Anselm College. Moderated by Wolf Blitzer. Debate begins at 7 p.m. EDT (4 p.m. PDT) and will last two hours.
That segment of the debate is also here (without ads)
Lightning Strikes Rudy
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ibqwKb4cCsg
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1845594/posts
Transcript: Third G.O.P. Debate
NY Times ^ | 06/05/2007
Posted on 06/05/2007 8:20:37 PM PDT by Ultra Sonic 007
What was the final result of the time for each candidate?
Did you time just their responses (including applause, etc)?
See my tagline:
I’m thinking the only contest remaining is whether Clinton or Thompson will name a black running mate first.
He sounds like an unstable version of a libertarian talking all kinds of crazy talk.
Just for the record, I got my results from Chris Dodd's blog
Blitzer 19:34 1 McCain 12:44 2 Giuliani 12:35 3 Romney 11:04 (surprise, surprise, the "top-tier" candidates) 4 Hunter 7:14 5 Brownback 7:12 6 Huckabee 6:48 7 Gilmore 5:59 8 Paul 5:51 9 Tancredo 5:43 10 Thompson 4:21
Oh man is that priceless — (I’m laughing and looking up... THANK YOU LORD!!!)
How many times did lightening strike during that answer??? I attended parochial school too Rudy, and I think the nuns I knew would say you’re in a bit of trouble with the “Big Guy”.
Thank you for the link, I had missed that part and only heard Blitzer talking about it after the debate. Blitzer didn’t even mention it was a question about his stance on abortion.
Notable quotes of the night...
MR. THOMPSON: My name is Thompson, Tommy. Im the candidate, not the actor. (Laughter.)
MR. HUCKABEE: Im Mike Huckabee. For 10 and a half years, I was governor of Arkansas. Im from the small town of Hope. You may have heard of it. All I ask you is, give us one more chance. (Laughter.)
MR. HUCKABEE: Todays the birthday of Ronald Reagan.
MR. GIULIANI: These are real problems. This war is not a bumper sticker. This war is a real war.
REP. TANCREDO: What were doing here in this immigration battle is testing our willingness to actually hold together as a nation or split apart into a lot of Balkanized pieces.
SEN. MCCAIN: ...We need to act, my friends, and if someone else has a better idea, Id love to have them give it to us. (Cheers, applause.)
MR. BLITZER: Thank you, Senator. Hold on.
(HANDS RAISE ALL AROUND)
SEN./REP./MR. : I have a better idea.
MR. FAHEY: Thank you.
Congressman Hunter, whether we like it or not, in cities across America, in counties across America, including your district in San Diego, illegal immigrants are doing jobs that American citizens dont want: working on farms, in hotels, restaurants. If you have your way and they all leave this country, whos going to fill those jobs?
REP. HUNTER: Well, first, I disagree with that premise, because when they made the sweep on the Swift plants those were the meat packaging plants in Iowa took out some 850 people who were working there illegally several months ago, there were American citizens lined up the next day to get their jobs back at 18 bucks an hour.
Now and let me tell you, this is a disastrous bill. And if John McCain is right in saying that this is a national security issue and it is, border enforcement then the Hunter bill, which was signed by the president on the 26th of October, mandating 854 miles of double fence not that scraggly little fence you show on CNN all the time, Wolf, that people get across so easily if they get across my fence, we sign them up for the Olympics immediately. (Laughter.) Weve got a big fence.
But 854 miles of double border fence was mandated to be constructed. Homeland Security has a billion bucks, cash on hand. Its been six months, and theyve done 11 miles.
So administration has a case of the slows. And I think they slowed the fence down so that they could come out with the amnesty at the same time, put the two together, and the Bush-McCain-Kennedy bill would then be accepted by conservatives and liberals alike.
REP. PAUL: Well, I think we should read the First Amendment, where it says, Congress shall write no law. And we should write a lot less laws regarding this matter. It shouldnt be a matter of the president or the Congress. It should be local people, local officials. The state should determine so many of these things that we just dont need more laws determining religious things or prayer in school. We should allow people at the local level.
Thats what the Constitution tells us. We dont need somebody in Washington telling us what we can do, because we dont have perfect knowledge. And thats the magnificence of our Constitution and our republic. We sort out the difficult problems at local levels and we dont have one case fit all, because you have a Supreme Court ruling like on Roe versus Wade; it (ruined ?) it for the whole country.
MR. GIULIANI: I think we have to accept the view that scientists have that there is global warming and that human operation, human condition, contributes to that.
REP. TANCREDO: Thank you. Some time ago, 2003 I think it was, I got a call from Karl Rove who told me that because of my criticism of the president, I should never darken the doorstep of the White House. I have been so disappointed in the president in so many ways since his actually for the last several years, not just the immigration issue, but several other things, including the No Child Left Behind and the massive increase in government that we call prescription drug Medicare prescription drug, that Im afraid I would have to tell the president of the United States I mean as president, I would have to tell George Bush exactly the same thing Karl Rove told me.
REP. HUNTER: ...Ill tell you a couple transcripts I have looked it, and thats the agents, Compean and Ramos, who were given 11 and 12 years respectively for stopping a drug dealer bringing 750 pounds of drugs across the border. Ive looked at their transcript; I would pardon Compean and Ramos right now.
MR. BLITZER: Thank you, Governor.
Mayor Giuliani, there was some news here today. A Catholic bishop in Rhode Island said some words about your position on abortion, suggesting that it was similar to Pontius Pilates personal opposition to Jesus Christs crucifixion but allowing it to happen anyway.
How does that make you feel when you hear words like that from a Catholic bishop?
MR. GIULIANI: Well, you know well, a Catholic bishop (off mike)
MR. BLITZER: Thats the lightning thats having an affect on
MR. GIULIANI: (Laughs.) Yeah, I know.
MR. BLITZER: our system. (Laughter, applause.)
(Cross talk.)
MR. GIULIANI: Look, for someone who went to parochial schools all his life, this is a very frightening thing thats happening right now. (Laughter.)
But the reality is, I respect, you know, the opinion of Catholic (off mike) religious leaders of all kinds. Religion is very important to me, its a very important part of my life. But ultimately, as a (off mike) Ive been in public life most of my life and taken oaths of office to enforce the law, Ive got to make the decisions that I think are the right ones in a country like ours.
And my view on abortion is that its wrong, but that ultimately government should not be enforcing that decision on a woman. Thats that is my view that I I consult my religion, I consult my reading of the Constitution, I consult my views of what I think are important in a pluralistic society, and the reality that we have to respect the fact that there are people that are equally as religious, equally as moral that make a different decision about this. And should government put them in jail?
MR. BLITZER: Congressman Hunter, I want you to weigh in because Arnold Schwarzenegger, your governor in California, has become very popular out there by bringing in independents and moderates and trying to forge a consensus among Republicans and Democrats in your state. Shouldnt the GOP nationally be following that Arnold Schwarzenegger example in California?
REP. HUNTER: No. (Laughter.) And let me just say, you know, I look at Governor Romney, Mayor Giuliani, my good friend John McCain. Governor Romney joined with Bill Clinton for the 1994 gun ban when I was fighting that. Mayor Giuliani stood with him at the White House on that. Governor Romney has passed what I consider to be a major step toward socialism with respect to his mandated health care bill. John McCain is standing strong with Ted Kennedy on this Kennedy- McCain-Bush border enforcement bill.
I think the guy whos got the most influence right here with these three gentlemen is Ted Kennedy. And I think we need to move away from the Kennedy Wing of the Republican Party. (Applause.)
SEN. MCCAIN: Well, first of all, Governor, muchas gracias.
la cabAsa?
“Condensing Tancredo’s answer he said he would not allow President Bush to cross the threshold of the WH if he occupied it. He listed all the things he has against Bush. He showed no finesse at all.”
Did you know that Karl Rove told Tancredo never to darken the door of the Bush White House? No doubt Tancredo was pretty insulted when Rove said that to him too.
If you want to become a citizen by first becoming a legal resident and assimilating, YOU'RE welcome to get in line.
The truth - NO!
Especially Islamic excessive government power.
Number of # of Words Words per Candidate Questions to Respond Response Giuliani 16 2611 163 Romney 15 2503 167 McCain 14 2226 159 Brownback 11 1481 135 Huckabee 9 1475 164 Hunter 11 1439 131 Gilmore 9 1311 146 Tancredo 9 1185 132 Paul 10 1120 112 Thompson 8 895 112 *Follow-up questions/responses counted as single question/response
In a Democrat controlled Senate, nothing big gets through that Ted Kennedy does not okay. He's been in the club there for 4 decades and is the big cheese.
This is what you get when you sit out elections.
He almost has me convinced. Someone send me a Freepmail to push me perhaps over and into the HUNTER 2008 camp. I will reply to any and all private Freepmails. I am open to the "pitch" and the "lobby". Whomever I side for in this primary, I will be an active, loud candidate for him, (for we sorely need a change from the current status in Washington, D.C.!!).
Have won several bets with proceeds going to FR. Mostly they don't have the moxie to put their money where their mouth is.
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