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Nine charged in US for Laos coup plot
Agence France-Presse (excerpt) ^ | June 4, 2007

Posted on 06/04/2007 4:54:51 PM PDT by HAL9000

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SAN FRANCISCO (AFP) - Nine people were arrested in the United States and charged with plotting a coup in the southeast Asian nation of Laos, a public prosecutor in California said Monday.

The suspects, mostly members of the Hmong ethnic group, were seized after US authorities "interrupted a plot to overthrow the government of Laos by force and violence," the prosecutor in the state capital Sacramento said in a statement.

They include the Hmong former general Vang Pao and Harrison Jack, a retired officer of the US Army, it said.

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TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; US: California
KEYWORDS: coup; harrisonjack; hmong; laos; vangpao; vientaine; vientiane
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1 posted on 06/04/2007 4:54:52 PM PDT by HAL9000
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To: HAL9000
From the link: The scattered groups of Hmong in Laos are remnants and descendants of former fighters of a CIA-funded "secret army" who from the early 1960s fought communist Pathet Lao forces when the war spilled over from neighboring Vietnam."

Actually the war in Laos preceded the Vietnam war ... the spill over was in the other direction.

2 posted on 06/04/2007 5:01:45 PM PDT by Red_Devil 232 (VietVet - USMC All Ready On The Right? All Ready On The Left? All Ready On The Firing Line!)
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To: HAL9000

Why in the heck are we arresting these folks? Seems to me we should be funding them


3 posted on 06/04/2007 5:03:28 PM PDT by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: HAL9000

Just keeping the world safe for communism, I suppose.


4 posted on 06/04/2007 5:04:51 PM PDT by PAR35
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To: HAL9000
I recall Vang Pao as the Laotian General who, with U.S. forces, led the local Hmong against the N. Vietnamese.

He'd be kinda old now; I guess he wasn't happy with the exile that the U.S. set up for him here after Laos fell.

An old warlord who just couldn't let go...

5 posted on 06/04/2007 5:07:23 PM PDT by GoldCountryRedneck ("Why can’t we start solving the problem by breaking up Big Government?"- MortMan)
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To: ALOHA RONNIE

ping


6 posted on 06/04/2007 5:07:35 PM PDT by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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To: mylife

Yep.


7 posted on 06/04/2007 5:09:31 PM PDT by RKV (He who has the guns makes the rules)
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To: ALOHA RONNIE
Does this:

>>>The scattered groups of Hmong in Laos are remnants and descendants of former fighters of a CIA-funded "secret army" who from the early 1960s fought communist Pathet Lao forces when the war spilled over from neighboring Vietnam."<<<

Have anything to do with the Lawsuit?



8 posted on 06/04/2007 5:13:01 PM PDT by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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To: HAL9000

Why are we prosecuting anti-communist refugees seeking to liberate their country?


9 posted on 06/04/2007 5:27:38 PM PDT by rmlew (It's WW4 and the Left wants to negotiate with Islamists who want to kill us , for their mutual ends)
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To: HAL9000
US authorities "interrupted a plot to overthrow the government of Laos by force and violence,"

Now why in the Sam Hill would they want to do that. I'd think they'd want to encourage that sort of thing, especialy by the Hmong.

The Hmong just got screwed, again.

10 posted on 06/04/2007 5:32:09 PM PDT by El Gato (The Second Amendment is the RESET button of the United States Constitution." -- Doug McKay)
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To: HAL9000
Nine people were arrested in the United States and charged with plotting a coup in the southeast Asian nation of Laos, a public prosecutor in California said Monday.

It's a quagmire already...

11 posted on 06/04/2007 5:43:39 PM PDT by FDNYRHEROES (Always bring a liberal to a gunfight)
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To: Calpernia

DONAHUE, MORGAN JEFFERSON
Name: Morgan Jefferson Donahue
Rank/Branch: Major/US Air Force

Unit: 606th Special Operations Squadron,
56th Special Operations Wing
Nakhon Phanom, Thailand
Date of Birth: 02 May 1944
Home of Record: Alexandria, VA
Date of Loss: 13 December 1968
Country of Loss: Laos

Loss Coordinates: 170100N 1055900E (XD055824) Click coordinates to view (4) maps

Status in 1973: Missing In Action

Category: 2

Aircraft/Vehicle/Ground: C123K “Provider”

Other Personnel in Incident: Thomas M. Turner (rescued); Douglas V. Dailey; John S. Albright; Joseph P. Fanning; Samuel F. Walker, Jr.; and Fred L. Clarke (all missing);

RKS: MID AIR COL-1 PARA OBS

SYNOPSIS: Though it had been declared obsolete in 1956, the Fairchild C123 Provider, which was a converted WWII glider, became one of the mainstays of tactical airlift in the Vietnam War. In 1962 the Provider was fitted with special equipment to spray defoliants. Later, it was modified with a pair of J-85 jet engines which increased its payload carrying capability by nearly one third. The first of these modified C123s arrived at Tan Son Nhut on 25 April 1967, and this venerable old aircraft proved to be among the hardest working aircraft throughout Southeast Asia. The C123K differed from other C123 models in that it had the addition of auxiliary turbojet engines mounted in underwing pods. While this addition did little to increase the speed of the “Provider”, it added greater power for quicker climbing on takeoff, and power for maintaining altitude.

On 13 December 1968, 1st Lt. Thomas M. Turner, pilot; 1st Lt. Joseph P. Fanning, co-pilot; 1st Lt. John S. Albright, II, navigator; then 1st Lt. Morgan J. Donahue, navigator; SSgt. Douglas V. Dailey, flight engineer; TSgt. Fred L. Clarke, loadmaster and SSgt. Samuel F. Walker, Jr., loadmaster; comprised the crew of a C123K aircraft, call sign “Candlestick 44.” Their night Forward Air Control (FAC) mission was to guide several B57B bombers onto a convoy of enemy trucks traveling along Routes 911 and 912. These routes were cut through the rugged jungle covered mountains approximately 2 miles north of the demilitarized zone (DMZ), 14 miles northwest of Ban Namm, 18 miles southwest of Ban Loboy, 35 miles northwest of Muang Xepon and 26 miles southwest of the Lao/North Vietnamese border, Savannakhet Province, Laos. Additional data places the loss approximately 47 kilometers northwest of Xepon, 3 kilometers east of Ban Kok Nak and Route 411, and 1 kilometer southeast of Ban Pa Dong.

This area of eastern Laos was considered a major artery of the infamous Ho Chi Minh Trail. When North Vietnam began to increase its military strength in South Vietnam, NVA and Viet Cong troops again intruded on neutral Laos for sanctuary, as the Viet Minh had done during the war with the French some years before. This border road was used by the Communists to transport weapons, supplies and troops from North Vietnam into South Vietnam, and was frequently no more than a path cut through the jungle covered mountains. US forces used all assets available to them to stop this flow of men and supplies from moving south into the war zone.

Flying at an altitude of no more than 2000-3000 feet, the Provider crew’s mission was to spot enemy truck convoys traveling along the trail, then to drop flares to illuminate the area for the accompanying bombers to attack. As the navigator responsible for monitoring the infrared detection device, Morgan Donahue laid on his stomach in the underbelly of the Provider to observe the situation through an open hatch. Weather conditions at the time were clear with a half moon, ground fog, no wind and no cloud ceiling. At 0300 hours, as the crew of the C123K guided a B57B, call sign “Yellowbird 72,” onto an enemy convoy, the FAC was jolted by a blow to the top of their aircraft in the aft section by the overhead bomber as it approached the target. Major Thomas W. Dugan, pilot; and Major Francis J. McGouldrick, co-pilot; comprised the crew of Yellowbird 72. 1st Lt. Turner, stunned by a blow to the head and lost consciousness as his aircraft lost power. Because of its glider configuration, the C123K did not fall straight to the ground, but drifted lazily in a slow flat spin that lasted several minutes.

During his post-rescue debriefing, Thomas Turner reported: “Yellowbird 72 made either one or two passes over the target and received no ground fire while Candlestick 44 maintained position in our quadrant at altitude. While the bomber conducted its strikes, I began a run to our left in order to stay in our own quadrant, yet be able to scope to clear the previous strike (to observe the bomber’s attack pass and its pull off of the target). Just as we rolled out straight and level, I looked out the window and saw the strike area. The next moment there was an explosion and the aircraft was out of control. I was knocked unconscious for several moments. When I came to, I turned in my seat and could see the co-pilot’s seat was empty and fire was coming into the cockpit from the fuselage area. I turned to the left and opened the window, then unbuckled by seatbelt. I looked out at the wing tip and could see the wing tip and that the left engine was still running. The next minute I was out and clear of the aircraft. I pulled the “D” ring when clear to deploy my parachute. On my descent I saw another parachute below me and 2 or 3 fires on the ground. At that time I was unaware of the other aircraft’s fall, and didn’t know if it was one of the fires on the ground or not.” 1st Lt. Turner went on to say: “I landed safely in a treetop where I remained until search and rescue (SAR) personnel rescued me at dawn. I did not hear any of the other crewmen come up on the radio, and I understand that the only beeper the SAR aircraft heard was mine.”

Members of other aircrews provided additional information about this loss incident. One witness stated he saw a steady stream of enemy anti-aircraft artillery fire aimed in the direction of the aircraft just before the large explosion caused by the collision. Several other witnesses reported there was a large explosion that broke the aircraft into three parts shortly after the initial explosion.

After plucking Thomas Turner out of the tree, aerial SAR personnel continued to search for the other crewman in the rugged jungle covered mountains. Because this area was under total enemy control, no ground search was possible. At 0900 hours on 15 December, the formal SAR effort was terminated when no trace of the remaining crew could be found. At that time John Albright, Morgan Donahue, Douglas Dailey, Joseph Fanning Fred Clarke and Samuel Walker were listed Missing in Action. Likewise, no trace of the B57B crew was found and they were also declared Missing in Action at the same time.

Over the years numerous reports filtered through the intelligence community regarding the crew of the Provider including National Security Agency (NSA) intercepted enemy radio communications correlated to at least 3 of the missing men. In 1974 a Laotian refugee who escaped reported having observed an American prisoner thought to have been a member of this aircrew who had been moved to the caves near Tchepone where he was held during the 1968 to 1970 timeframe. This American was later transferred to another location unknown to the refugee. Another intelligence report received shortly after the loss incident indicated that Morgan Donahue suffered a broken leg in the mishap and was believed to have been taken to a communist holding area near Tchepone after capture. Several reports referring to “Moe-gan” or “Mr. Moe-gan” have been received by military intelligence since the end of the war. Frequently this prisoner is referred to as “the animal doctor” because he is being used as a veterinarian to treat sick and injured animals. These reports have come directly from refugees to the Donahue family as well as through US government agencies.

From 1981 to 1984, the Special Forces Detachment, Korea (SFDK) was charged by President Reagan with the responsibility of collecting live POW information throughout Southeast Asia. SFDK was commanded by Major Mark Smith, himself a returned POW from the Vietnam War. Through his efforts, and those of team Intelligence Sergeant Mel McIntire, an agent net of 50 agents was established, specifically in Laos. This intelligence net resulted in Major Smith compiling a list of some 26 American POWs by name and captivity location with Morgan Donahue being one of them. In April 1984, Major Smith received a message from one of his agents specifying that on 11 May three US Prisoners of War would be brought to a given location on the Lao/Thai border. The only prerequisite was that an American be on the Thailand side of the border to receive the men. When this information was reported up his chain of command, Major Smith’s team was ordered not to leave Korea, to destroy all documents pertaining to LIVE POWs and they were sent back to the United States 6 months early. According to Major Smith and SFC McIntire, they believe Morgan Donahue was one of those three Prisoners who could have been returned on 11 May 1984. This documented information was provided to the United States Senate Veterans Affairs Committee in sworn testimony on 28 January 1986.

In June 1987 and again in August of that year, the Donahue family was given intelligence reports tracking their youngest son’s movements from a POW camp in Kham Kuet, Khammouane Province, Laos in the spring of 1987, then to another camp in the Boualapha District of the same province that August. These reports were only a few weeks old at the time the USG obtained them, yet intelligence personnel marked them “routine” and made no effort to act upon the information. One of these reports stated that the POW had been a crewman aboard a C123K aircraft and gave its serial number. When government analysts finally evaluated the report, they discovered that the aircraft number was actually the missing navigator’s father’s home zip code instead of the aircraft’s number. The Donahue family believes this is clearly a message from Morgan Donahue.

The crew of the C123K are among the nearly 600 Americans who disappeared in Laos. Like this aircrew, many of these men were known to be alive on the ground. The Laotians admitted holding “tens of tens” of American Prisoners of War, but these men were never negotiated for either by direct negotiations between our countries or through the Paris Peace Accords which ended the Vietnam War since the Laotians were not a party to that agreement.

Since the end of the Vietnam War well over 21,000 reports of American prisoners, missing and otherwise unaccounted for have been received by our government. Many of these reports document LIVE American POWs remaining captive throughout Southeast Asia TODAY.

Aircrews in Vietnam and Laos were called upon to fly in many dangerous circumstances, and they were prepared to be wounded, killed or captured. It probably never occurred to them that they could be abandoned by the country they so proudly served.
Morgan J. Donahue graduated from the United States Air Force Academy in 1967.

Gone... but NOT FORGOTTEN!!!


12 posted on 06/04/2007 6:21:20 PM PDT by Chode (American Hedonist)
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To: Chode

Don’t miss this thread:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1842118/posts
Book Reveals Cuba-Vietnam POW Link (Govt. knew we left men behind)


13 posted on 06/04/2007 6:25:21 PM PDT by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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To: HAL9000

Nine charged in US for Laos coup plot


Young Lady; is there something we need to discuss?


14 posted on 06/04/2007 6:33:31 PM PDT by Grizzled Bear ("Does not play well with others.")
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To: Calpernia

Up...


15 posted on 06/04/2007 6:35:20 PM PDT by Chode (American Hedonist)
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To: HAL9000
News10.net - Feds Bust Valley Plot to Overthrow Government of Laos
16 posted on 06/04/2007 7:11:08 PM PDT by HAL9000 (Get a Mac - The Ultimate FReeping Machine)
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To: HAL9000

Interesting to compare how we treat American residents who plot violent acts against foreign governments vs. the way the rest of the world seems to treat their homegrown troublemakers. We nip them in the bud because it’s an act of war to give them free rein. But do we ever declare war against other countries that actually foment and encourage acts of violence against us? Not on your life.


17 posted on 06/04/2007 8:10:39 PM PDT by LibWhacker
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To: HAL9000

Bangkok Post

http://www.bangkokpost.net/topstories/topstories.php?id=119229


18 posted on 06/05/2007 12:24:48 AM PDT by LeoWindhorse
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To: rmlew
Why are we prosecuting anti-communist refugees seeking to liberate their country?

California sides with the Communists?

19 posted on 06/05/2007 6:23:25 AM PDT by Jack Black
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To: HAL9000
Right. The U.S prosecutor has decided to indict the Hmong, American allies during the Vietnam War as criminals. How do we repay our debt for abandoning them? By protecting the communists oppressing their homeland.

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelologus

20 posted on 06/05/2007 8:24:06 AM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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