Posted on 06/03/2007 3:55:06 AM PDT by Alas Babylon!
The Talk Shows
Sunday, June 3rd, 2007
Guests to be interviewed today on major television talk shows:
FOX NEWS SUNDAY (Fox Network): Former House Speaker Newt Gingrich; U.S. Ambassador to Iraq Ryan Crocker.
MEET THE PRESS (NBC): Democratic strategists Bob Shrum and James Carville; Republican strategists Mary Matalin and Mike Murphy.
FACE THE NATION (CBS): Sen. Ken Salazar, D-Colo.; Rep. Peter King, R-N.Y.
THIS WEEK (ABC): Iraqi President Jalal Talabani; Rep. John Murtha, D-Pa.; NASCAR driver Kyle Petty.
LATE EDITION (CNN) : Sens. Dianne Feinstein, D-Calif., and Richard Shelby, R-Ala.; Elizabeth Edwards, wife of presidential candidate John Edwards; Tagg Romney, son of presidential candidate Mitt Romney.
Here’s an example of one I like (source: http://www.heritage.org/Research/Immigration/bg2034.cfm ) If you compare this (whether you like all of the provisions or not) to what we currently have & what is being proposed, you can see how terribly “far afield” we’ve gone in this area.
A Real Temporary Worker Program
Principle: A temporary worker program must be temporary, market-oriented, and feasible.
A balanced and well-constructed temporary worker program should diminish the incentives for illegal immigration by providing an additional option for legal temporary labor and, in combination with other reforms, reduce over time the current population of illegal aliens. This would foster better national security and serve a growing economy. Such a temporary worker program would be a valuable component of a comprehensive immigration reform proposal.
Nevertheless, enthusiasm for such a program in theory must be moderated by serious concerns not only about the failures of such programs in our past and in other countries, but also regarding how a new program would likely be implemented and operate in practice. An ill-defined and poorly constructed temporary worker program would make the current problems of immigration policy even worse.[26]
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Keep it temporary. A temporary worker program should be temporary and of defined and limited duration. If participation is renewable, there should be a substantive period of time in the home country between renewals and a limit on the numbers of renewals.
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Create a dynamic workforce. The objective should be to allow for a reliable and market-driven source of labor and for that labor to be provided by a dynamic and rotating temporary workforce. Facilitation of the program should not be micromanaged by government agencies. A private-sector approach to managing and facilitating workers would more efficiently integrate the workforce and allow the market to serve economic needs and provide economic benefits.[27]
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Require sponsorship. An employment sponsorship system is a flexible alternative to government management of the supply of and demand for migrant labor. Existing undocumented workers should find it relatively easy to get sponsorship with current employers, so leaving the country, applying, and reentering would neither discourage their compliance nor come at the expense of other legal migrants.[28]
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Resolve family status. Temporary workers in the United States should be encouraged to establish long-term residences, create stable households, and build families in the country of their permanent citizenship, but they should not be allowed to bring spouses or families to the United States during the program. Consistent with the temporary nature of the program, the children born in the United States of non-U.S. citizen parents during their program participation should not automatically become U.S. citizens. If these questions are not resolved, and if the return period between renewals and departure after program completion is not enforced, a temporary worker program will create powerful conditions of permanency and lead to significant fiscal costs.
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Require bilateral agreements. Any temporary worker program requires bilateral agreements between the United States and the home nations of program participants. Such agreements would strengthen cooperation concerning verification of identity and background security; establish clear agreement to abide by (and encourage participants to abide by) the rules of the program and United States immigration laws; facilitate the return of those nations’ citizens at the end of program participation; and reward nations that develop robust programs that assist in significantly reducing the unlawful population in the United States. Such agreements are also an opportunity to develop additional incentives for temporary workers, such as allowing program participants to receive credit in their home countries’ retirement systems.[29]
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Include program triggers. Immigration reform must include measurable benchmarks and goals that must be met in order to proceed with the implementation of a temporary worker program. These program triggers must cover border security (such as a biometric identification registry, verification of identity and criminal security check with the participants’ home country, mandatory workplace verification, and a system of secure documents); internal enforcement (the vast majority of employers should be compliant with worker identification processes, and Social Security information must have been shared with DHS); and program infrastructure (a single integrated border services agency must be in place, working, and appropriately tested for reliability and accuracy). These various determinations should be made by the Administration and subject to legislative concurrence.[30]
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Provide economic incentives.A temporary worker program should provide economic incentives for participants to abide by the rules of the program and return home at the end of their permitted tenure. These incentives should affect both the participant (in the form of withheld income or investment accounts) and the employer (in the form of a bond to control the flow of workers and promote compliance). In both cases, the dollar value of the bond would be repaid after the migrant exited the U.S. but would be forfeited if the migrant went into the black market economy.[31] Likewise, temporary workers should not be eligible for means-tested welfare, Social Security, or Medicare, and employers (in the form of a surety bond) should be required to cover medical costs of workers while they in the United States.
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Insist on numerical caps. Even allowing for relatively larger numbers of individuals to participate in the early years of any worker program on the assumption that some number currently here will leave and reenter with temporary legal status, there must be a hard numeric cap on overall program participation in each year. This numerical cap should include spouses and children; that is, the total number of individuals given temporary legal status under this program. In future years, the cap must also include temporary workers that violated the terms of the program and remained in the country illegally.
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Limit status adjustment. If the program is to be a truly temporary worker program, individuals should not be allowed to adjust legal status while on the program; that is, it should be a non-adjustable visa. Otherwise, this is not a temporary program, but a transitional program to permanent status. If participants wish to enter a separate track for permanent residency, the individual must apply separately for a pre-existing category of adjustable visas. Participation in the temporary worker program should not advantage such an application (except as evidence of law-abidingness, for instance) and should not fulfill residency requirements for citizenship. Indeed, violation of the terms of the worker visa should prevent the participant from being eligible for other visas, legal permanent residency, or citizenship.
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Resist large programs. Immigration legislation should not create a large, open-ended, or ill-defined program in order to meet a demand for temporary workers. A pilot program, perhaps based on the expansion and streamlining of existing non-immigrant work visa programs, is a reasonable and prudent policy prior to launching a new program of any significant magnitude. Likewise, the United States already has several programs (including an unrestricted visa classification for temporary or seasonal agricultural workers) that could be streamlined and adapted for granting other non-immigrant work visas. Immigration legislation should also restructure and increase existing programs for highly skilled foreign workers, such as the H-1B program.[32]
Sen. McCain is that you? You sure have the smarmy stereotype smears down pat.
There are larger things at work within business that affect the cost of labor not just in the low tech but high tech as well that you are NOT taking into consideration.
Every regulation....every new “patients bill of rights” type of BS that gets foisted on the businesses of this country affects the cost of labor. Every time you hear about the Democrats wanting to raise the minimum wage...THAT affects the cost of labor.
But if you think that by passing this bill...all the labor problems in this country will be fixed...you’re sadly mistaken.
This bill poses grave dangers to this country that we aren’t even taking into consideration right now.
And if all your business friend can find is “Mexicans and Crackheads” tell him to quit hiring at the local day labor center.
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Okay, then what’s this New Deal? If it’s an online poker site, could someone please provide a link. Thanks.
I agree .. I take great offense at that disrespectful mockery of our President . No matter what, he’s our President and Commander in Chief in time of a complex and vicious war, and deserves respect.
It was part of his portfolio as Texas governor and presidential candidate through two elections that he won.
Bottom line: he could’ve taken the safe route and kicked it down the road to another president, to let it multiply and get more fractious, risky and out of control. Instead, he raised it and brought it to the front burner .. knowing it was critical, and that he’d be damned by one invested group or the other.
People seem to forget that the problem isn’t here because he raised it ... it’s irrefutably been here.
No of course not. I know many who are upstanding and try hard to do a good job.
Please don’t accuse me of painting them all with a broad brush. But I’ve SEEN the good and the bad, and the bad do remain below radar.
Unfortunately most Americans don't think "we" pay for this .. they think the government pays for it
Though if the states had to pay for this .. most Americans would take notice .. especially when they had to pay their state and real estate taxes
As for the businesses .. they will just import food from other countries because it's cheaper
People don't go into a business to be fair .. they go into a business to make money
Some of these people are not only poor and needy, but perverts as well. They are hiding in plain sight.
I agree it's a huge mess and it's also dangerous
thats a scary thought.
I agree...and I am...Cornyn and KBH are my Senaators and Mike Conway is my Rep. and I’m watching them on this.
You would be correct. ;-)
Come on, if you were to stop the anti-business rhetoric the callers would be screaming for your head. Bet they love your Jorge name.
Of course I don’t hear your show, but it is like every other show I quit listening to including Rush when he starts his immigration/Bush bashing.
Take up my dare then. Interview someone who has a labor intensive business and put your bias aside. Try to find out why he truely needs and wants Mexican labor. Here’s a hint, their good workers. Course that would kill your ratings, not that you care.
Pray for W and Our Troops
Are you being obtuse on purpose or do you REALLY not know what The New Deal was?
You have no idea what the New Deal was?
Do yourself a favor and go by a history book
“Of course I don’t hear your show, but it is like every other show I quit listening to including Rush when he starts his immigration/Bush bashing.”
YOu’re being dishonest here bray.
I listen to Rush either live or from the Podcast...he disagrees with the President...but in a respectful way. He doesn’t bash him.
Those are your words.
If you want to be the lone voice in the wildnerness trying to cinvince us that this illegal alien amnesty bill is a good thing...go right ahead...but you’ve got a long road ahead of you.
And a lonely one at that.
Since you don’t know what your talking about, I will blame it on ignorance. You don’t even attempt to address the issue but go off into tangentland and personal attack mode.
Pray for W and Our Troops
However...there are “other methods” of aquiring what you seek. *evil grin*
Do you know how to download music that is only supposed to be listened to, on the site? I've been trying to figure out how to do this.
bray:
Do you have more than just ancedotal evidence from a “friend of a friend” to back up your shilling for this idiotic bill?
You're right .. he's not to blame for the immigration problem and I understand he's trying to fix it
I just think he's going about it all the wrong way
there are several places you can go and download programs that let you get his songs...as well as other mp3’s.
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