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Gun-toting teens alarm residents
spokesmanreview.com ^ | 05-31-07 | Hope Brumbach

Posted on 06/01/2007 1:26:08 PM PDT by em2vn

POST FALLS – Zach Doty typically wears a tie and dress shirt to church. But lately, a new accessory of his is raising alarm in Post Falls.

After turning 18 last month, the Post Falls teenager began strapping a loaded 9 mm Glock 19 handgun to his belt every day. He totes it in full view to Bible studies, the public library, city parks and neighborhood stores and on walks around town.

His 15-year-old brother, Stephen, has joined him, carrying a loaded Ruger .22-caliber rifle slung over his shoulder.

The brothers, who are home-schooled, say they're flexing their Second Amendment right, which allows citizens to bear arms. They say they're protecting themselves and others, deterring crime and making a statement about constitutional freedoms.

"If you don't exercise a right, eventually it will go away," Zach Doty said last week, a handgun tucked in a holster on his hip. "I'd like to raise people's awareness that it's a right, and I hope to encourage others to exercise that right."

The brothers are stirring up concern about citizen safety and gun responsibility.

Residents have alerted police and complained to the city. Police officers have stopped the boys on several occasions in the past six weeks.

And city officials say the brothers' action may lead to restrictions on carrying weapons on public property within city limits. At this time, the city doesn't have an ordinance that prohibits firearms in most public buildings.

"It obviously has created some controversy in the community. …We are fielding a significant number of calls from concerned citizens about how we're going to react to this and how we're going to ensure their safety is upheld," Post Falls City Administrator Eric Keck said. "It really is a matter of defining things very carefully and balancing maintaining one's rights and what has become the norm of society. It's something we're really going to have to examine."


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism
KEYWORDS: banglist; bible; idaho; rifle; secondamendment
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These boys would have been real handy to have had at Virginia Tech.
1 posted on 06/01/2007 1:26:10 PM PDT by em2vn
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betcha they, or anyone they’re around, don’t have to worry about being crime victims..


2 posted on 06/01/2007 1:27:58 PM PDT by GeorgiaDawg32 (Every Democrat Party cause eventually becomes a business then it degenerates into a racket.)
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>>city officials say the brothers’ action may lead to restrictions on carrying weapons on public property within city limits<<

OK, so they arrest the boys on charges,
and it goes up the appeals process,
and the USSC rules that “keep and BEAR” means no restrictions on individuals BEARING their arms.


3 posted on 06/01/2007 1:29:03 PM PDT by MrB (You can't reason people out of a position that they didn't use reason to get into in the first place)
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"It really is a matter of defining things very carefully and balancing maintaining one's rights and what has become the norm of society.

No ... a right is a right. It's not a right that society grants, but a right from God. That's the way they set it up when our country was established.

If the government wants to take away rights, then they need to change the Constitution. But you can't monkey with it based on "society's norms."

4 posted on 06/01/2007 1:30:33 PM PDT by SittinYonder (Ic þæt gehate, þæt ic heonon nelle fleon fotes trym, ac wille furðor gan)
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In another place this piece was discussed the piece had said that the police had talked to the boys to help them understand how people felt seeing them armed. I remember commenting at the time, the police are talking to the wrong people, The boys have done their homework on the law. The complaining residents obviousl, had not.


5 posted on 06/01/2007 1:31:59 PM PDT by n230099 (64,999,987 firearms owners killed no one yesterday.)
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With Rights comes Responsibilities.

These boys are screwing up.


6 posted on 06/01/2007 1:33:30 PM PDT by Responsibility2nd (Global Warming is Leftist Theology - Why is it Being Taught in School?)
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:-)
7 posted on 06/01/2007 1:34:00 PM PDT by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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what has become the norm of society.

Yeah and segregation was the norm at one time. This jerk doesn't understand that we are talking about an inalienable right!

8 posted on 06/01/2007 1:34:29 PM PDT by beltfed308 (Rudy: When you absolutely,positively need a liberal for President.)
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These boys are screwing up.

How so? It's legal. A right not exercised becomes useless in my book.

9 posted on 06/01/2007 1:36:19 PM PDT by beltfed308 (Rudy: When you absolutely,positively need a liberal for President.)
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This is the Idaho I was a kid in.
10 posted on 06/01/2007 1:36:47 PM PDT by Little Bill (Welcome to the Newly Socialist State of New Hampshire)
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I see it as the liberal element are screwing up.
11 posted on 06/01/2007 1:36:50 PM PDT by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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Yet a right abused can also become useless.
12 posted on 06/01/2007 1:37:27 PM PDT by Responsibility2nd (Global Warming is Leftist Theology - Why is it Being Taught in School?)
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If the government wants to take away rights, ...

The government can't take away rights, it can only restrict their free exercise.

13 posted on 06/01/2007 1:37:49 PM PDT by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: Responsibility2nd

There was a time when it was not unusual for kids to be seen carrying firearms in public, or going shooting and hunting. Nobody thought anything of it. I used to shoot at a range in a public high school. Carried my rifle in every Tuesday and Thursday, and I was only 14.


14 posted on 06/01/2007 1:38:16 PM PDT by Tijeras_Slim
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These boys are screwing up.

How?

15 posted on 06/01/2007 1:38:23 PM PDT by SittinYonder (Ic þæt gehate, þæt ic heonon nelle fleon fotes trym, ac wille furðor gan)
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About 20 years ago, small town in CO. My brother had just purchased a pistol grip pump shotgun. We took it up in the hills and had a blast shooting. We put it in the gunrack of his pickup and were driving back when we were suddenly surrounded by five cop cars, guns drawn and all.

They politely took out their tape measure and determined that the shotgun was 1/4” over the legal length. They they asked us to please transport it in future out of sight, as people had called in freaked out about a “sawed-off shotgun.”

These boys sound like the women who think they have a right to upset others when breastfeeding by flopping it out in front of God and everybody. A little discretion never hurt anything.


16 posted on 06/01/2007 1:38:50 PM PDT by Sherman Logan (I didn't claw my way to the top of the food chain to be a vegetarian.)
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“These boys are screwing up.”

Concealed carry means just that in some places.

Here in Indiana, allowing someone to see that you are carrying can be considered “brandishing” a weapon, and can get you in trouble.


17 posted on 06/01/2007 1:39:13 PM PDT by EEDUDE (The more I know, the less I understand...)
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Yet a right abused can also become useless.

How is exercising a right legally constitute abuse?

18 posted on 06/01/2007 1:39:30 PM PDT by beltfed308 (Rudy: When you absolutely,positively need a liberal for President.)
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To: Responsibility2nd

How are they screwing up?


19 posted on 06/01/2007 1:41:07 PM PDT by em2vn
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Yet a right abused can also become useless.

How's that? Like going to church too often? Writing too many letters to the editor? Refusing to incriminate yourself too often?

20 posted on 06/01/2007 1:41:13 PM PDT by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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