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Plan to clean air may kill ambience
latimes.com ^ | 06/01/07 | Janet Wilson

Posted on 06/01/2007 6:02:22 AM PDT by TornadoAlley3

Throwing a few logs on the fire on a nippy evening, or boosting a home's market appeal by advertising its wood-burning fireplace, could go the way of the coal chute and the ice box for many Southern Californians if newly proposed air quality regulations are adopted.

As part of air pollution plans designed to meet federal deadlines, South Coast Air Quality Management District officials have proposed a ban on wood-burning fireplaces in all new homes in Los Angeles, Orange and portions of Riverside and San Bernardino counties.

In addition, on winter days when pollution spikes, wood-fueled blazes in all fireplaces would be banned in highly affected areas. That could amount to about 20 days a year, district officials said.

Another measure that would require closing off wood fireplaces or installing $3,600 pollution control devices before a home could be sold had been dropped as of late Thursday, an AQMD spokesman said.

Regulators say that with an estimated 5,400 premature deaths attributable to soot each year in the region, no source is too small to target. Numerous studies have shown that the fine particulate matter in soot sinks deep into the lungs, causing serious health problems. But critics, including homebuilders and real estate agents, say the regulations could hurt sales by robbing homes of one of their most enjoyable features.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: ambience; california; fireplace; pollution
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1 posted on 06/01/2007 6:02:24 AM PDT by TornadoAlley3
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To: TornadoAlley3
They can have my Earth stove when they pry it from my cold, dead hands. Also, this amount of pollution is a pittance compared to a volcanic eruption. Think they'll try to control volcanos too?

Carolyn

2 posted on 06/01/2007 6:04:08 AM PDT by CDHart ("It's too late to work within the system and too early to shoot the b@#$%^&s."--Claire Wolfe)
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To: TornadoAlley3

stupid


3 posted on 06/01/2007 6:04:35 AM PDT by sopwith (don't tread on me)
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To: TornadoAlley3
Solution? Upgrade to a gas fireplace. I have one in my new home.

Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." -Manuel II Paleologus

4 posted on 06/01/2007 6:04:51 AM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: goldstategop

Wood stoves are more efficient...and cost less, too...


5 posted on 06/01/2007 6:06:35 AM PDT by EnigmaticAnomaly (Grassroots Conservatism at its finest...VOTE DUNCAN HUNTER 2008)
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To: CDHart

Not to mention all the wildfires they have out there.


6 posted on 06/01/2007 6:07:22 AM PDT by JZelle
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To: TornadoAlley3

I’m actually shocked you can still have a wood fire there.


7 posted on 06/01/2007 6:07:29 AM PDT by P-40 (Al Qaeda was working in Iraq. They were just undocumented.)
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To: TornadoAlley3

I’m happy I left that insane fascist hellhole 15 years back. Californians are living in a soviet socialist dictatorship and most don’t even realize it.

All hail to the Marxist state and the unelected dictator bureaucrat!


8 posted on 06/01/2007 6:08:49 AM PDT by sergeantdave (Give Hillary a 50ยข coupon for Betty Crocker's devils food mix & tell her to go home and bake a cake)
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To: TornadoAlley3
Even worse are Colorado ski towns like Crested Butte and Copper Mountain. They are nestled in the valleys between ski slopes and every single condo has a fireplace. You can see the layer of woodsmoke trapped in the bowl of the town from the slopes. I used to get sick every single winter when I went skiing from breathing all the fresh mountain air laced with soot.
9 posted on 06/01/2007 6:09:49 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum ("All the measures of the law should protect property and punish plunder." --Frederic Bastiat)
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To: TornadoAlley3; Just another Joe; CSM; lockjaw02; Publius6961; elkfersupper; nopardons; metesky; ...

Nanny State Ping.................

But, but, but.....they always said it the EVIL tobacco smoke that could only do this ..........


10 posted on 06/01/2007 6:10:10 AM PDT by Gabz
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To: TornadoAlley3
Right here, air needs cleaning ...

May 31, 2007 - Smoke Plume over Eastern Canada, forest fires, not cars are the cause.

11 posted on 06/01/2007 6:10:43 AM PDT by Tarpon
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To: goldstategop

But, wood is a renewable resource, while natural gas use enriches Halliburton.* You’d think if anyone gets this, Kalifornistan would. But, alas they can’t have all of their ideologies at once; some of their ideologies have to be sacrificed at the altar of some others.

*Yes, I know gas isn’t oil, and that Halliburton is at best tangentially related to gas company profits. Californatic license taken here.


12 posted on 06/01/2007 6:11:46 AM PDT by coloradan (Failing to protect the liberties of your enemies establishes precedents that will reach to yourself.)
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To: CDHart
We have a Majestic stainless fireplace in our screen porch and a Lopi stove with outside air in the living room. Four cords of wood await destruction after the first footballs are thrown this fall.
13 posted on 06/01/2007 6:17:55 AM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks (BTUs are my Beat.)
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To: Gabz
South Coast Air Quality Management District

Unelected fully funded bureaucracy staffed by paper shuffling stooges intent on getting their way over all else.

14 posted on 06/01/2007 6:21:09 AM PDT by metesky ("Brethren, leave us go amongst them." Rev. Capt. Samuel Johnston Clayton - Ward Bond- The Searchers)
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To: Gabz
Carney said there are "pretty obvious adverse impacts of wood smoke on pollution. If you stand close to a wood fire and breathe, you can feel it in your throat and in your lungs."

And if you walk through the flames, you'll burn your feet.

And if you stick your head in a toilet bowl, you'll drown.

And if you're born, you'll inevitably die.

And if a lunatic regulation is born in California, it will metastasize throughout the country.

15 posted on 06/01/2007 6:21:34 AM PDT by Madame Dufarge
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To: P-40

I think the eco-nazis are in a muddle about wood fires. On the one hand it’s biomass heat and in the current carbon cycle for whatever that’s worth. On the other hand it consumes CO2 sinking resources. It can be dirty too.

For me it’s cheap heat, exercise and an excuse to buy power tools.


16 posted on 06/01/2007 6:22:00 AM PDT by Jack of all Trades (Liberalism: replacing backbones with wishbones.)
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To: Madame Dufarge; metesky

What you both said!!!!


17 posted on 06/01/2007 6:23:26 AM PDT by Gabz
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To: P-40

Next there will be fines for breaking wind...methane emissions don’t ya know. I am serious!


18 posted on 06/01/2007 6:23:43 AM PDT by gr8eman (Everybody is a rocket scientist...until launch day!)
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To: goldstategop

But if the gas flame is producing a yellow light, it has to produce soot.


19 posted on 06/01/2007 6:24:34 AM PDT by CarrotAndStick (The articles posted by me needn't necessarily reflect my opinion.)
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To: Gabz
Regulators say that with an estimated 5,400 premature deaths attributable to soot each year in the region, no source is too small to target.

Stolen right from the "second-hand smoke" template.

Show me the death certificates.

20 posted on 06/01/2007 6:24:46 AM PDT by Madame Dufarge
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