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Google likens Sweden to dictatorship (for wishing to counteract terrorism and child pornography)
www.thelocal.se ^ | 05/30/2007 | Paul O'Mahony

Posted on 05/31/2007 5:56:50 PM PDT by WesternCulture

Search engine giant Google has slammed Sweden's proposed wiretapping legislation as illiberal and incompatible with Western democracy.

Speaking on a visit to Sweden on Tuesday, the company's global privacy counsel, Peter Fleischer, warned that Google would rule out making any major investments in Sweden should the controversial bill become law.

"We have contacted Swedish authorities to give our view of the proposal and we have made it clear that we will never place any servers inside Sweden's borders if the proposal goes through," Fleischer told Internet World.

The proposal, which would allow the National Defence Radio Establishment (Försvarets Radioanstalt - FRA) to monitor e-mail and telephone traffic coming in and out of the country, has met with fierce criticism from several quarters within Sweden. But Google had remained relatively silent on the issue, until now.

"We simply cannot compromise our users' integrity by allowing Swedish authorities access to data that may not even concern Swedish activity," said Fleischer.

Google's privacy chief went as far as to suggest that Sweden was in danger of embarking on a path usually reserved for dictatorial regimes.

"The proposal stems from a tradition begun by Saudi Arabia and China and simply has no place in a Western democracy," he said.

Fleischer added that Google has submitted its criticism of the proposed legislation to the Department of Justice.

"Sometimes Google needs to take a clear stance and my impression is that everybody has listened very intently to what we have had to say," said Fleischer.

The Swedish government has previously defended the proposal on the grounds that it will help in the fight against terrorism and international organized crime.

But the opposition, government agencies and a host of other organizations have accused the proposed legislation of being unconstitutional and a threat to individual freedoms.

Disagreements between the Moderate and Social Democrat parties on some of the finer points of the legislation have made it unlikely that the bill will be pushed through parliament in the near future.

Instead, the opposition parties are expected to make use of a constitutional regulation enabling them to postpone a parliamentary ruling until next year, meaning that the bill would come into law in 2009 at the earliest.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society
KEYWORDS: 1984; china; crime; democracy; dictatorship; freedomofspeech; google; humanrights; humantrafficking; intelligence; internet; it; moralabsolutes; pornography; saudiarabia; scandinavia; searchengines; sweden; wiretapping; wot

1 posted on 05/31/2007 5:56:53 PM PDT by WesternCulture
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To: WesternCulture
In 1940, Sweden deciphered Nazi German military cypher that was even MORE complex than the ones used in the legendary Enigma machines. Sweden knew of Operation Barbarossa in advance and although claiming to be ‘neutral’ warned The Allies (including Soviet) prior to the attack.

Already in 1970, Ericsson and Televerket (the Swedish part of what today is Telia Sonera, the leading Telephone company in Sweden and Finland) started working on what in 1981 became the first fully-automatic cellular phone system in the world.

Today, Stockholm is home to a concentration of cutting edge IT industry that could only be rivaled by Silicon Valley.

I’m convinced Swedish agencies like the above mentioned FRA (Sweden’s national authority for signals intelligence) could contribute to making Sweden a very unfriendly environment for terrorist and other enemies of mankind.

The West will not defend freedom by providing safe havens and recruiting grounds for terrorists and criminals.

2 posted on 05/31/2007 5:58:13 PM PDT by WesternCulture
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To: WesternCulture

Now we Know why Rosie “O’Dough-NUTZ!” like Google so well.


3 posted on 05/31/2007 5:58:13 PM PDT by SandRat (Duty, Honor, Country. What else needs to be said?)
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To: WesternCulture

Google has outgrown its pants from a marvelous search engine to a conniving global power wannabe. So you want to call Sweden a dictatorship? Look in the mirror.


4 posted on 05/31/2007 6:01:58 PM PDT by Sender ("America is at that awkward stage..." - Claire Wolfe)
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To: WesternCulture

Threaten to ban them. Then they will refrain from criticism to benefit the greater good. It worked for the Chicoms.


5 posted on 05/31/2007 6:03:27 PM PDT by Tribune7 (A bleeding heart does nothing but ruin the carpet)
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To: WesternCulture

Isn’t Google the same company that bent over backwards to make China happy?


6 posted on 05/31/2007 6:05:56 PM PDT by SauronOfMordor (Open Season rocks http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ymLJz3N8ayI)
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To: WesternCulture
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7 posted on 05/31/2007 6:08:29 PM PDT by rbosque (L)
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To: SauronOfMordor
Certainly is.

China said "Jump", Google asked "How high?" on the way up.

8 posted on 05/31/2007 6:09:03 PM PDT by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: WesternCulture
"The proposal stems from a tradition begun by Saudi Arabia and China and simply has no place in a Western democracy," he said.

How rich is that? Coming from the same company that sold out those same values of Western democracy by censoring web content in China.

9 posted on 05/31/2007 6:09:08 PM PDT by AHerald ("Be faithful to God ... do not bother about the ridicule of the foolish." - St. Pio of Pietrelcina)
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To: SauronOfMordor
Google's privacy chief went as far as to suggest that Sweden was in danger of embarking on a path usually reserved for dictatorial regimes.

Hmmmmm, so then they will bow to any demands Sweden makes then? ROTFLMAO

10 posted on 05/31/2007 6:09:15 PM PDT by icwhatudo (The rino borg...is resistance futile?)
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To: WesternCulture

If Google considers Sweden a dictatorship, then what do they call Venezuela? The DPRK?


11 posted on 05/31/2007 6:09:33 PM PDT by Army Air Corps (Four fried chickens and a coke)
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To: WesternCulture
Ake Green, a Pentecostal minister in Sweden, went to prison for calling homosexuality "a deep cancer on society."

His conviction was later overturned, but the law is still on the books. Disrespecting homosexuals is punishable by up to four years in prison.

Sweden sucks.

12 posted on 05/31/2007 6:37:49 PM PDT by Spirochete
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To: WesternCulture
“Sometimes Google needs to take a clear stance”

There is no reason to be so self-depricating - Google always takes a clear stance. Only “sometimes” thing here is what that stance exactly is - “sometimes” it’s arrogance and blackmail (when dealing with a democracy), “sometimes” it’s groveling (when dealing with commies, islamists, and the like).

13 posted on 05/31/2007 6:55:28 PM PDT by alecqss
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To: WesternCulture

A few years ago Google eagerly cooperated with the communist Chinese government to have a Chinese version of Google that would pass government censorship. I think Google also provided some information to help the Chinese government track down dissidents. I am quite sure the argument was that the Chinese have their own way of doing things and we must respect that, and it would be cultural imperialism to force Western ideas of freedom on them, etc. Now a free country like Sweden wants more safeguards against terrorists and child exploiters and Google says Sweden is a dictatorship.


14 posted on 05/31/2007 7:13:34 PM PDT by Wilhelm Tell (True or False? This is not a tag line.)
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To: WesternCulture

But it’s okay to cave into China? What thought-police.


15 posted on 05/31/2007 7:26:01 PM PDT by Duke Nukum (I wish the world was a newt!)
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To: WesternCulture

Later read/pingout....Google is evil.


16 posted on 05/31/2007 9:30:45 PM PDT by little jeremiah (Only those who thirst for the truth will know the truth.)
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“Google censors itself for China” (Article by BBC):

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/technology/4645596.stm


17 posted on 06/01/2007 3:31:44 AM PDT by WesternCulture
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