Posted on 05/31/2007 4:41:30 AM PDT by IrishMike
A recent survey we conducted for a private group revealed that most Americans believe in an "Ellis Island" approach as a realistic way to deal with illegal aliens living in the United States. Policymakers might want to listen up.
It's now dawned on Republicans in the U.S. Senate that their embrace of President Bush's policy solution for illegal immigration has put those senators running for re-election next year in a precarious spot.
Too many people see the bill before Congress as a convoluted way of offering "amnesty for sale" to illegals in the United States. And the more senators in support of the bill study its details, the more they come to realize that it has so many requirements and penalties for immigrants that no one in a practical bent of mind should probably reject it.
Regardless, many Americans see two problems with the legislation. First, many resentfully recall that their own ancestors or relatives who immigrated here from places like Ireland in times of great economic hardship did so through one designated place Ellis Island in New York City. That portal into America served to process those immigrants and put them on the road to becoming part of the fabric of this nation.
Second, the proposed new federal legislation fails to provide an immigration process that's guaranteed against bureaucratic loopholes.
Plenty of Americans, particularly plenty of the Republican Party's conservative voting base, are skeptical that immigrants subject to the bill's provisions will ever do more than simply pay a series of ongoing fees to keep them in the country.
Our InsiderAdvantage survey showed that a majority of Americans believe the most practical approach is to establish certain processing locations. There, illegals already living here would "surrender" to authorities.
(Excerpt) Read more at creators.com ...
Did you read post #15 ?
We’re from the same boat - so to speak.
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Ding, ding! We have a winner! Of course they aren't interested or they'd have done it the right way.
We are on the same page Mike.
One thing few Americans know is about 1/2 of all the immigrants that came to America left and returned home when they could not “make it” here.
There was no “safety net” except their sponsors. There was no welfare or medicare .
Think about it, the people that built America were the survivors, the ones willing to risk everything to come here and that had the ability, the skills and the intelligence to make it in a foreign land with a different language.
Today we get the freeloaders that come wanting to live in our safety net.
That does not bode well for this nations future
Today we get the freeloaders that come wanting to live in our safety net.
That does not bode well for this nations future
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For two obvious reasons-
1. We (the country)get the loosers
2. DRats get the voters
yep
As did many other immigrants before Ellis Island was constructed as a response to the demand. Demand created by open and legitimate efforts to become a part of this nation.
This time 'our' response to illegal immigration is not an improved means of legal entry but a legalization of criminal behavior, increased risk of imported disease, and - oh yeah - a free pass for any terrorists already in our midst or in route.
"Diversity" instead of assimilation / suicide instead of strengthening.
Revisionist nonsense if I am reading you right. Most of the Southern and Eastern European immigrants settled in insular ethnic ghettos, did NOT intermarry/assimilate into the larger population, and had their own newspapers/media. My great-grandmother spent 40 of her 65 years in the US (a Polish enclave in Newark), without speaking the language.
HOWEVER, none of these groups, with the exception of an anarchist/communist minority, sought to overthrow the existing order, or tell the majority culture how to live their lives.
Acculturate, respect the majority culture, and don't take the route that certain native-born minorities have taken, ie accept your role as a "permanent minority" entitled to affirmative action, white guilt, etc, and you are OK with me.
Unfortunately, the "culture of entitlement" among the illegal amigos makes me see a Brazil-like future, ie white folks (and those of other races who have "made it") living behind razor wire, while a brown and black proletariat lurks outside, forever resentful and supportive of "populist" candidates that will leave us to Mobocracy.
On a sinking ship first you plug the hole , then you get the pumps going.
Er, that would be the 12 million people who are already here. Which was what the article was about, although that appears to have been forgotten by people dreaming of the magic fence.
Frankly, I hold the latter group directly responsible for this miserable bill. No one had any good, realistic or foresighted solutions. All we had was raving about the magic fence. And now we’re stuck with a horrible bill that solves no problems whatsoever.
>> Immigration: The Ellis Island Solution
So forget the wall and construct a moat with a sandbar called Elárez Island.
So forget the wall and construct a moat with a sandbar called Elárez Island.
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I’d like to see both actually.
For starters.
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