To: Mr. Brightside
“I oppose the exclusion of either faith or reason from the discussion. An attempt by either to seek a monopoly on these questions would be wrong-headed.”
A safe position, and one of moderation. Too bad the liberals demand anything having to do remotely with God to be excluded from everything public, including discussion.
2 posted on
05/31/2007 4:31:45 AM PDT by
txzman
(Jer 23:29)
To: Mr. Brightside; P-Marlowe; Alamo-Girl; Dr. Eckleburg; betty boop
We are fearfully and wonderfully made.
That is evident, as is the hand of the Creator, so that humans who deny Him are without excuse.
Those who deny such obvious reality will then pervert other realities, such as the natural use of their own bodies. Such irrationality results in their ruination/infection/destruction.
They have only themselves to blame.
3 posted on
05/31/2007 4:33:20 AM PDT by
xzins
(Retired Army Chaplain And Proud of It! Those who support the troops will pray for them to WIN!)
To: Mr. Brightside
It does not strike me as anti-science or anti-reason to question the philosophical presuppositions behind theories offered by scientists who, in excluding the possibility of design or purpose, venture far beyond their realm of empirical science. Why does it strike him as anti-religion when those same scientists question the theological foundations of Intelligent Design based on their experiments and the evidence they have uncovered?
4 posted on
05/31/2007 4:35:38 AM PDT by
Non-Sequitur
(Save Fredericksburg. Support CVBT.)
To: Mr. Brightside
Nice tiptoe footwork down the middle.
6 posted on
05/31/2007 4:46:44 AM PDT by
DaGman
(`)
To: Mr. Brightside
Who cares about what Senator Browneye thinks about anything? He opposed the surge. He can go screw.
7 posted on
05/31/2007 4:48:48 AM PDT by
montag813
(q)
To: Mr. Brightside
The heart of the issue is that we cannot drive a wedge between faith and reason.
No, Senator, the heart of
this issue is whether or not you believe biologists have proved their case that all modern species (including man) were born by the mechanism of "descent with modification through time".
If you don't believe they have made that case, over the last 148 years, then raise your hand. If you do believe that case has been made, then don't raise your hand.
Don't go trying to change it into some question its not. It's not a question of faith and reason. It's a question of whether or not you believe the case has been made. Obviously, you don't believe it's been made, since you raised your hand. (Or you would rather not admit to your constituents that you believe it's been made.)
Only after the fact did you come up with the long non sequitur about faith and reason.
8 posted on
05/31/2007 4:53:01 AM PDT by
samtheman
To: Mr. Brightside
That was a good article from Senator Brownback. It’s worth reading in its entirety at the NYTs. NYTs? What a surprise.
The raise your hand question should have been an insult to any thinking person. The origin and diversity of all life are topics so complex, they make climate science seem simple - which it is not.
The question had the quality of a loyalty test. In the 30s in Germany it might have been “who here does not support the Fuhrer?”
11 posted on
05/31/2007 5:06:30 AM PDT by
ChessExpert
(Carbon Dioxide: a trace gas necessary for life)
To: Mr. Brightside
It does not strike me as anti-science or anti-reason to question the philosophical presuppositions behind theories offered by scientists who, in excluding the possibility of design or purpose, venture far beyond their realm of empirical science. Science is nothing more or less than the search for material explanations to phenomena, so yes, to question the philosophical presupposition of naturalism is by definition anti-science.
To: Mr. Brightside
Having pointedly ignored the article, I think politicians from Kansas should avoid talking about evolution if they're running for national office.
Brownback seems to think that peddling his newfound Catholicism is the key to the Religious Right.
He really should just drop out.
To: Mr. Brightside
Yet I believe, as do many biologists and people of faith, that the process of creation and indeed life today is sustained by the hand of God in a manner known fully only to him.Then I guess there's no point in continuing with this silly "scientific research" thing we've been pursuing over the last few hundred years.
16 posted on
05/31/2007 5:32:19 AM PDT by
Michael A. Velli
(fight 'em there -- so we don't have to fight 'em here!)
To: Mr. Brightside
An evolution debate is what we need as the walls of the Alamo are being overrun.....
17 posted on
05/31/2007 5:33:00 AM PDT by
cbkaty
(I may not always post...but I am always here......)
To: Mr. Brightside
The "intelligent design" question isn't about atheists versus people who say God is behind it all. That's just the dishonest bait and switch, because atheism is so untenable.
It's really about fanatics who want to preserve the Adam and Eve story against all reason.
Is this what Republicanism is supposed to be about?
This shouldn't be a political issue at all.
Ultimately, it plays into the hands of the libs who will say we are all like that.
18 posted on
05/31/2007 5:34:37 AM PDT by
Salman
To: Mr. Brightside
Church and State... Mixing??? No wonder we have so many problems without solutions! Enough time waisted on this issue... Ciao
To: Mr. Brightside
The truths of science and faith are complementary: they deal with very different questions, but they do not contradict each other because the spiritual order and the material order were created by the same God. Well said Senator!
To: Mr. Brightside
"My Kingdom is not of this world." Jesus told us many things during his brief 3 year ministry and one thing He made clear is that the world will persecute you for proclaiming His Holy Name.
The early members of the Holy Catholic Church(as they referred to it; read Eusebius' History of the Church 311 AD) were willing to be tortured horribly for their faith. And we today are not even willing to be emarrassed or inconvienced
30 posted on
05/31/2007 7:15:13 AM PDT by
RichardMoore
(gohunter08.com)
To: Mr. Brightside
Geeeeze Sam,
I don't care what you think about evolution.
I care that you are a sitting U.S.Senator that purports to be a conservative and you voted to have a blanket AMNESTY for ILLEGAL ALIENS shoved up or down parts of the bodies of the U.S.taxpayers, and have done nothing discernible to close the porous border or build the fence, which was budgeted for and approved.
However, when you have done your duty, get back to me and we will bullshit about things like the Scopes trial and stuff.
60 posted on
06/10/2007 9:43:22 AM PDT by
Gideon Reader
(DEMOCRATS: Not quite American, and proud of it! Palestinians are,...well,... Palestinian.)
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