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Spain sues to block U.S. claim to sunken treasure
reuteurs ^ | 5/30/07 | reuteurs

Posted on 05/30/2007 9:01:20 PM PDT by Flavius

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To: pjd

If governments keep up this kind of nonsense, then either

a) NOBODY is going to try and retrieve lost treasures/artifacts anymore; or

b) people will still retrieve them, but in secret; and so whatever historical associations they had will be lost; and and gold and silver will be melted down to conceal its origin.

And # ‘b’ above is far more likely than # ‘a’.


21 posted on 05/30/2007 9:33:41 PM PDT by CondorFlight (I)
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To: Flavius

Losers: weepers.


22 posted on 05/30/2007 9:37:23 PM PDT by Sir Clean Plate Club (Gore feels things getting warmer because he is going to Hell)
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To: Army Air Corps
Re: "It's Cheney's treasure!"

Actually it is the eeeeevil Halliburton's booty.

23 posted on 05/30/2007 9:37:34 PM PDT by Trajan88 (www.bullittclub.com)
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To: Trajan88

Actually, under the Bush-supported Law of the Sea Treaty, it probably would belong to the UN.


24 posted on 05/30/2007 9:41:42 PM PDT by EternalVigilance (The Reds went Green, but the goal remains the same: Total control and domination...)
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To: Flavius
Arrrrrrr, come and get it, maties!
25 posted on 05/30/2007 9:41:56 PM PDT by Old 300
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To: Flavius

The Spainish government has to fund its socialism somehow.


26 posted on 05/30/2007 10:17:30 PM PDT by Proud_USA_Republican (We're going to take things away from you on behalf of the common good. - Hillary Clinton)
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To: krb

You melt it down and you lose a lot of the value. Not only is it gold or silver, but they pay for the coins being so old and rare.

I believe in cases like this, its finders keepers. The Spanish government should go pound sand.


27 posted on 05/30/2007 10:20:38 PM PDT by Proud_USA_Republican (We're going to take things away from you on behalf of the common good. - Hillary Clinton)
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To: processing please hold

Yes, that is the Odyssey that has been salvaging shipwrecks pretty much, globally.


28 posted on 05/30/2007 10:20:55 PM PDT by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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To: Proud_USA_Republican
I wonder what FReepers would say if the shoe was on the other foot?
29 posted on 05/30/2007 10:22:40 PM PDT by endthematrix (a globalized and integrated world - which is coming, one way or the other. - Hillary)
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To: krb

I can’t see their point in filing this suit. It’s only a drop in the bucket compared to what they need to become an actual economically functioning country.


30 posted on 05/30/2007 11:31:07 PM PDT by singfreedom ("Victory at all costs,.......for without victory there is no survival."--Churchill--that's "Winston")
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To: Flavius

I think the Golden Rule should apply: Those who recover the gold make the rules.


31 posted on 05/30/2007 11:46:24 PM PDT by sourcery (Democrat: n. 1. Quiche-eating surrender donkey.)
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To: Flavius

Of course they did! Euros trying to pick the pockets....bunch of lazy socialists...have to pay for their amnesty somehow.


32 posted on 05/30/2007 11:47:33 PM PDT by BurbankKarl
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To: Army Air Corps

They weren’t expecting the Spanish Inquisition!

http://youtube.com/watch?v=3ZQI0Xm29To


33 posted on 05/31/2007 12:22:57 AM PDT by hawkboy (Duncan Hunter '08!)
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If it was found in international waters I don’t see how Spain has a solid case. They will likely try to keep it tied up in court until the finders capitulate and give them a piece of the pie. I wonder if Spain has ever thought of suing Islam for the damages done by invasion. That would make as much, if not more sense.


34 posted on 05/31/2007 12:52:13 AM PDT by WildcatClan (Substance before style, actions before words, Duncan Hunter for President '08)
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To: krb

“If the Spanish give too much trouble, melt it down or scatter it back over a deep part of the ocean.”

I like that idea. And I’m guessing that 25 to 35 feet ought to do the trick.


35 posted on 05/31/2007 3:12:31 AM PDT by incredulous joe ("Why do psychics have to ask you for your name?" -- Stephen Wright)
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To: endthematrix

“I wonder what FReepers would say if the shoe was on the other foot?”

Tough Duck.


36 posted on 05/31/2007 3:16:09 AM PDT by incredulous joe ("Why do psychics have to ask you for your name?" -- Stephen Wright)
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To: Flavius

If it’s in international waters then Admiralty Law regarding salvage applies. I don’t think The Kingdom of Spain has any claim on a salvage in international waters, even it it was a ship belonging to the Spanish Crown.


37 posted on 05/31/2007 10:14:51 AM PDT by GreenLanternCorps (Past the schoolhouse / Take it slow / Let the little / Shavers grow / BURMA-SHAVE)
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To: Flavius

Spain’s claim is laughable and ironic considering that the treasure was plundered from the New World to begin with. Plus, Spain had centuries to go retrieve it themselves. Sore losers, that’s what they are.


38 posted on 05/31/2007 11:18:57 AM PDT by TexasRepublic (Afghan protest - "Death to Dog Washers!")
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Let me begin by making it very clear that I DO NOT believe the treasure should be returned to Spain. But you need a better argument than the fact that it "was plundered from the New World". That is, unless you are willing to return to the Native Americans the land, gold... that it was plundered from them! Oh, and the land should be in the pristine condition that it was at the time!

I agree with #21 that if governments are allowed to interfere, people will still retrieve them, but in secret; and so whatever historical associations they had will be lost; and and gold and silver will be melted down to conceal its origin.

It seems to me that treasure-seeking is a private business, and as long as people are willing to invest capital in a risky business enterprise, they should be entitled to large profits when they literally "hit gold".

What should we do, then? One factor that has not been considered is that these coins are history and as such they belong to the world. My suggestion would be to give a reasonable sample of the coins to both the Spanish and US governments, since the ship belonged to Spain but it was found off the coast of Florida. These coins could then be placed in a museum. The balance, and I'm talking here of the whole treasure minus those few samples, would belong to the people who found them (and other investors in their enterprise).

39 posted on 05/31/2007 2:28:22 PM PDT by Former Fetus
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