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Ripping off old folks, but for a good cause
MND ^ | May 30, 2007 | Mike Bates

Posted on 05/30/2007 6:43:24 PM PDT by Nasty McPhilthy

A relative has been in the hospital, and then rehab at a nursing home, for a couple of months. The other day I took the 90-year-old over to his house. We weren’t there for a minute when the phone rang. It was a telemarketer. In less than ten minutes, two other sales calls came in.

The elderly, often housebound and lonely, are particularly susceptible to phone pitches. Some companies specifically target them for scams.

Last month the New York Times ran a story on an information broker business, infoUSA, which sells lists for telemarketing. According to the Times, a list of “Suffering Seniors” comprised 4.7 people with cancer or Alzheimer’s. “Elderly Opportunity Seekers” included more than 3 million people “looking for ways to make money.”

Another contained information on half a million senior gamblers. One sales list boasted: “These people are gullible. They want to believe that their luck can change.”

Predictably, some of the businesses purchasing these lists used them for fraud. One Iowa man mentioned in the article lost more than $100,000 to scam artists.

There are laws preventing information brokers from selling their lists to evident swindlers. OK, so honest mistakes are a part of life. The newspaper tried to contact infoUSA officials dozens of times for its story, but, unlike the elderly who’ve been bilked, they evidently don’t answer their phone. Later, infoUSA termed the incidents an aberration, pledging similar episodes wouldn’t occur.

When the story appeared, I surfed over to the Web site Democratic Underground.com, a place where you can always find the often extraordinarily loony “thoughts” of practicing liberals. I wasn’t disappointed with the reaction there.

It’s all part of George Bush’s America, you see. Yet another example of the rich preying on the weak and ignorant. We need more protection from the government. There’s no difference between organized crime and corporate America. It’s just like how we’re getting ripped off by oil companies.

No, I wasn’t let down by the usual suspects at the Democratic Underground. They had to be disappointed to read the Associated Press story less than a week later reporting infoUSA has been most munificent to the Left’s very own Ozzie and Harriet, Bill and Hillary Clinton.

A shareholders’ lawsuit charges the company’s founder and CEO, Vinod Gupta, with wasting corporate millions trying to ingratiate himself with the Clintons. Cited as examples are the more than $3 million in contracts for Bill Clinton to provide business advice as well as $900,000 spent to jet the couple around the world. Mr. Gupta’s infoUSA paid the impeached former president $200,000 for a speech in Omaha. According to the Washington Post, Gupta “and his company donated at least $1 million to help underwrite a lavish millennium New Year’s Eve celebration at the (Clinton) White House and on the Mall.”

The CEO has also given $1 million to Clinton’s presidential library. He donated more than $220,000 to Democrats when Hillary Clinton first ran for the Senate. Other beneficiaries of his largess, Federal Election Commission records show, are Barack Obama, Al Gore, John Kerry and New York Senator Charles “Let’s Investigate Unethical Republicans” Schumer.

Vinod’s bigheartedness didn’t go unnoticed. He stayed in the Lincoln bedroom back in the good old days when the Clintons operated the White House like a Motel 6.

Bill offered him an ambassadorship and a second high level diplomatic post, but Mr. Gupta declined. He did, though, accept a presidential appointment to the celebrated John F. Kennedy Center Board of Trustees.

After the Times’ investigative story, the two leading Democratic presidential candidates did what was expected. Mrs. Clinton’s flunkies tried to put distance between her and the infoUSA chief. In accepting private plane trips, the senator “complied with all the relevant ethics rules.” Perhaps they should have gone with “there is no controlling legal authority.” That worked so well for Al Gore.

Barack Obama describes himself on his Senate Web page – your tax dollars at work - as “a leader in fighting for open and honest government.” Prompted by the Times’ article, he wrote to the Federal Trade Commission, expressing his concern that the agency isn’t doing more to protect the elderly from fraudulent telemarketing schemes.

If Mr. Obama returned the 2004 contribution he received from infoUSA’s Vinod Gupta, he didn’t mention it. Leaders in open and honest government can only go so far.

With any luck, there’s a special place for people who profit from gouging the elderly. I mean a spot other than as an illustrious contributor to the Democratic Party, White House overnight guest, and friend of Bill and Hillary Clinton. Someplace much, much hotter.


TOPICS: Culture/Society
KEYWORDS: byanymeansnecessary; clinton2008; clintoncronies; cultureofcorruption; democratscandals; howtostealanelection; robbery; theft
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1 posted on 05/30/2007 6:43:26 PM PDT by Nasty McPhilthy
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To: Nasty McPhilthy

Thats good stuff!


2 posted on 05/30/2007 6:46:21 PM PDT by Holicheese (I love shrimp and grits.)
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To: PJ-Comix
Pings to you, hoss.
3 posted on 05/30/2007 6:51:13 PM PDT by decal (Mother Nature and Real Life are conservatives - the Progs have never figured this out.)
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To: Nasty McPhilthy

Good read!

B U M P


4 posted on 05/30/2007 6:51:15 PM PDT by stephenjohnbanker ( Hunter/Thompson/Thompson/Hunter in 08! "Read my lips....No new RINO's" !!)
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To: Nasty McPhilthy
Vinod Gupta

Hitlery uses his jet.
5 posted on 05/30/2007 6:54:05 PM PDT by P-40 (Al Qaeda was working in Iraq. They were just undocumented.)
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To: stephenjohnbanker

I believe it was Rush who was talking about this today...


6 posted on 05/30/2007 6:54:36 PM PDT by JoanneSD
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To: Nasty McPhilthy

CSI: Ls Vegas had an episode about this.


7 posted on 05/30/2007 7:02:00 PM PDT by IllumiNaughtyByNature (I buy gas for my SUV with the Carbon Offsets I sell on Ebay!)
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To: JoanneSD

Too bad I missed it : )


8 posted on 05/30/2007 7:06:35 PM PDT by stephenjohnbanker ( Hunter/Thompson/Thompson/Hunter in 08! "Read my lips....No new RINO's" !!)
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To: Nasty McPhilthy

Hey, if it wasn’t for heavily-accented Pakistanis named ‘Kevin,’ I’d get no phone calls at all.


9 posted on 05/30/2007 7:08:01 PM PDT by gcruse
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To: Nasty McPhilthy

“We need more protection from the government.”

Heh. How very libertarian of you.


10 posted on 05/30/2007 7:10:19 PM PDT by gcruse
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To: Nasty McPhilthy
My late father suffered from senile dementia for years before he died in 2003. At the time of his death he had 91 magazine subscriptions and was on every charity and political contribution mailing list. He didn't have the ability to say "no" to anyone who stuck their hand out. It took years of effort to get the hand-out mailings cut down to a dribble and most of the magazines cut off, with refunds where possible. None of us know how many tens of thousands of dollars he gave away to anyone who asked for it. When my mother had to go into a nursing home in 2006 we knew to the day how long she could stay before the remaining money ran out. She died before that point was reached, but not by much. The elderly frequently can't make sound judgments and are easy pickings.
11 posted on 05/30/2007 7:12:48 PM PDT by Dumpster Baby ("Hope somebody finds me before the rats do .....")
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To: Holicheese; Mike Bates
Thats good stuff!

Damn right it is...it was written by a FReeper! We know best, we know right.

12 posted on 05/30/2007 7:13:40 PM PDT by ErnBatavia (...forward this to your 10 very best friends....)
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To: Dumpster Baby
Amen -- I'm there right now; both (93 and 86) have their own degrees of dementia, and I'm fighting this sh*t almost daily.

I can only trust that the live-ins "follow orders" and refer ALL calls to me.

But, on the flipside, we've managed to get me/siblings on the power-of-attorney track, hopefully without any missteps.

13 posted on 05/30/2007 7:17:42 PM PDT by ErnBatavia (...forward this to your 10 very best friends....)
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To: Nasty McPhilthy
No, I wasn’t let down by the usual suspects at the Democratic Underground. They had to be disappointed to read the Associated Press story less than a week later reporting infoUSA has been most munificent to the Left’s very own Ozzie and Harriet, Bill and Hillary Clinton.

A shareholders’ lawsuit charges the company’s founder and CEO, Vinod Gupta, with wasting corporate millions trying to ingratiate himself with the Clintons.

Peas of a pod...

14 posted on 05/30/2007 7:39:25 PM PDT by GOPJ ( When great forces are on the move in the world, we learn we are spirits--not animals."- Churchill)
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To: ErnBatavia

My sister and I had power of attorney, and it was necessary. At the end neither could sign their name on anything or comprehend anything. We had to always be around to answer medical history questions and answer medical problem questions since they either didn’t know anything or couldn’t figure out what was going on. We had to deal with everything on a daily basis for several years, and I spent 2002 until the end of 2006 at home 24/7 as a watchdog and guardian. It was necessary.


15 posted on 05/30/2007 7:41:19 PM PDT by Dumpster Baby ("Hope somebody finds me before the rats do .....")
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To: Nasty McPhilthy

Yep, it happens. It happened to my father-in-law in CA. The only exception was there is a law in CA that says you can not prey on the elderly. To be fair, Dad’s best friend was also a lawyer and when he got finished with the vitamin company who snooked $500 from Dad; not only did they return his $500; they said keep the vitamins. Dad was fortunate.


16 posted on 05/30/2007 7:59:30 PM PDT by freekitty
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To: freekitty
I had a telemarketing biz in Omaha, and I was aware of this company. It was primarily a biz to biz list broker. Although I bought some lists, he did not advertise that he had the kinds of lists referenced here.

I used to listen to telemarketers, but I have noticed that age makes it hard to follow them, so I put my name on the Do Not call list. Now I just get calls from conservatives and Republicans.LOL

17 posted on 05/30/2007 8:52:38 PM PDT by ClaireSolt (Have you have gotten mixed up in a mish-masher?)
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To: Nasty McPhilthy

4am reminder bump. ;-)


18 posted on 05/31/2007 12:01:25 AM PDT by Tunehead54 (Nothing funny here. ;-)
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To: ClaireSolt
... so I put my name on the Do Not call list.

Somehow some sort of twisted pride, or just sheer stubbornness, prevents me from making this particular supplication, as I see it. You know, why should I have to? That's my thinking.

My parents used to get a lot of phone solicitations, and they had an answering machine and just didn't pick up until you identified yourself on the message cycle. We have an answering machine, but we pick up and say hello, and if no one is RIGHT THERE, we hang up. This seems to work great, especially if you answer quickly. Of course, it's still an annoyance, but at least one has the satisfaction of hanging up.

I have to say, the telemarketers seem to be giving up, at least on us. We used to have 4 or 5 messages on our machine at the end of the day ( we both work ) but now there seems to be one or none. This may be a technological artifact. I think they recognize an answering machine somehow, and just hang up. We used to find amusement in messages that went, "Hello? ... Hello? ... Hello? ....... ( sigh ) CLICK" but we seem to have stopped getting those.

19 posted on 05/31/2007 12:04:14 AM PDT by dr_lew
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To: Nasty McPhilthy

When Dick Morris discussed the clinton’s 3 million dollar connection with these criminals, alan colmes’ rebuttal was to repeatedly scream “So What!” at morris. Even Hannity just shrugged and said, “well, that’s the clintons.” They’re so crooked that nobody even cares anymore.


20 posted on 05/31/2007 12:06:49 AM PDT by ozzymandus
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