Posted on 05/27/2007 5:27:35 AM PDT by Alas Babylon!
The Talk Shows
Sunday, May 27th, 2007
Guests to be interviewed today on major television talk shows:
FOX NEWS SUNDAY (Fox Network): Former Gov. Mike Huckabee, R-Ark.; Sens. Arlen Specter, R-Pa., and Kay Bailey Hutchison, R-Texas.
MEET THE PRESS (NBC): Gov. Bill Richardson, D-N.M.
FACE THE NATION (CBS): Sens. Carl Levin, D-Mich., and Jeff Sessions, R-Ala.
THIS WEEK (ABC): Commerce Secretary Carlos Gutierrez; Sen. Robert Menendez, D-N.J.; former Gov. Jim Gilmore, R-Va.
LATE EDITION (CNN) : Pakistani Prime Minister Shaukat Aziz; Reps. Charles Rangel, D-N.Y., and Duncan Hunter, R-Calif.; Sen. Joe Biden, D-Del.
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Gen. Dayton admits US is helping Fatah—armed wing claims responsibility for attack near Jerusalem
As one other Freeper said about this "We fire him".
The bottom line is that if the indigenous workforce cannot or will not do it then they have to import it but it should be a regulated legal import not an illegal one.
This of course does not address illegals already doing the jobs.
There are no easy answers and whatever is done or proposed you will never please everyone.
Yeah
I am a conservative who is neither anti-business or pro minimum wage but I am also very pro rule of law and when that conflicts with ANYTHING else I will come down on the side of rule of law every single time!
never been an occupying power our entire mission has been to train Iraqis so they can self govern.
I used the wrong number Alas pointed out later. Should be about 3 million strong to 1.4 million.
You are half right snugs. Whatever is done will not please anyone. Unfortunately the President does not have the luxury of vilifying every business that hires manual labor. Let alone say they should be shut down or move to China like most of the pro-deportation crowd wants.
Pray for W and Our Troops
Ron Brownstien just explicitly stated the MSM/dem game plan. Keep public opinion firmly against the war so it won’t matter what Petraeus accomplishes or says in September.
Please pass this on to your brother.
Why Iraq
One of the really infuriating things in modern politics is the level of disinformation, misinformation, demagoguery and out right lying going on about the mission in Iraq. Democrats have spent the last 3+ years lying about Iraq out of a political calculation. The assumption is that the natural isolationist mindset of the average American voter, linked to the inherent Anti Americanism (what is misnamed the “Anti War movement”) of the more feverish Democrat activists (especially those running the US’s National “News” media) would restore them to national political dominance. The truth is the Democrat Party Leadership has simply lacked the courage to speak truth to whiners. The truth is that even if Al Gore won the 2000 election and 09-11 still happened we would be doing the EXACT same things in Iraq we are doing now.
Based on the political situation in the region left over from the 1991 Gulf War plus the domestic political consensus built up in BOTH parties since 1991 as well as fundamental military strategic laws, there was NO viable strategic choice for the US but to take out Iraq after finishing the initial operations in Afghanistan.
To start with Saddam’s Iraq was our most immediate threat. We could NOT commit significant military forces to another battle with Saddam hovering undefeated on our flank nor could we leave significant forces watching Saddam. The political containment of Iraq was breaking down. That what Oil for Food was all about. Oil for Food was an attempt by Iraq to break out of it’s diplomatic isolation and slip the shackles the UN Sanctions put on it’s military. There there was the US Strategic position to consider.
The War on Islamic Fascism is different sort of war. in facing this Asymmetrical threat, we have a hidden foe, spread out across a geographically diverse area, with covert sources of supply. Since we cannot go everywhere they hide out, in fact often cannot even locate them until the engage us, we need to draw them out of hiding into a kill zone.
Iraq is that kill zone. That is the true brilliance of the Iraq strategy. We draw the terrorists out of their world wide hiding places onto a battlefield they have to fight on for political reasons (The “Holy” soil of the Arabian peninsula) where they have to pit their weakest ability (Conventional Military combat power) against our greatest strength (ability to call down unbelievable amounts of firepower) where they will primarily have to fight other forces (the Iraqi Security forces) in a battlefield that is mostly neutral in terms of guerrilla warfare. (Iraqi-mostly open terrain as opposed to guerrilla friendly areas like the mountains of Afghanistan or the jungles of SE Asia).
Did any of the critics of liberating Iraq ever look at a map? Iraq, for which we had the political, legal and moral justifications to attack, is the strategic high ground of the Middle East. A Geographic barrier that severs ground communication between Iran and Syria apart as well as providing another front of attack in either state or into Saudi Arabia if needed.
There were other reasons to do Iraq but here is the strategic military reason we are in Iraq. We have taken, an maintain the initiative from the Terrorists. They are playing OUR game on ground of OUR choosing.
Problem is Counter Insurgency is SLOW and painful. Often a case of 3 steps forward, two steps back. One has to wonder if the American people have either the emotional maturity, nor the intellect” to understand. It’s so much easier to spew made for TV slogans like “No Blood for Oil” or “We support the Troops, bring them home” or dumbest of all “We are creating terrorists” then to actually THINK.
Westerners in general, and the US citizens in particular seem to have trouble grasping the fundamental fact of this foe. These Islamic Fascists have NO desire to co-exist with them. The extremists see all this PC posturing by the Hysteric Left as a sign that we are weak. Since they want us dead, weakness encourages them. There is simply no way to coexist with people who completely believe their “god” will reward them for killing us.
So we can covert to Islam, die or kill them. Iraq is about killing enough of them to make the rest of the Jihadists realize we are serious. They same way killing enough Germans, Italians and Japanese eliminated the ideologies of Nazism, Fascism and Bushido.
Americans need to understand how Bin Laden and his ilk view us. In the Arab world the USA is considered a big wimp. We have run away so many times. Lebanon, the Kurds, the Iraqis in 1991, the Iranians, Somalia, Clinton all thru the 1990s etc etc etc. The Jihadists think we will run again. In fact they are counting on it. That way they can run around screaming “We beat the American just like the Russians, come join us in Jihad” and recruit the next round of “holy warriors”. Iraq is also a show place where we show the Muslim world that there are a lines they cannot cross. On 9-11-01 they crossed that line and we can, and will, destroy them for it -
If you will not fight for the right when you can easily win without bloodshed; if you will not fight when your victory will be sure and not too costly; you may come to the moment when you will have to fight with all the odds against you and only a small chance of survival. There may even be a worse case: you may have to fight when there is no hope of victory, because it is better to perish than to live as slaves.”
Winston Churchill
What rule of law? You mean the one that has no fine for being an illegal immigrant? That rule of law? How much money you willing to pay to enforce a law that has no fine??
Pray for W and Our Troops
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This day in History-World War II May 27, 1941 Bismarck Sunk
that turd russert was trying to shoehorn richardson on gun control-russert would love to see all of us disarmed-smarmy urban liberal puke that he is-not that richardson is any bargain-i would love to see “tough guy” russert pin hillary down in a non-rehearsed interview with no pre-determined talking points-IT WILL NEVER HAPPEN-the stumpy legged bitch is being preened for the dictatorship of our nation by the leftist elitist media
This is the most bizarre MTP I have ever seen. Timmy is all over this story about an angry mom of a fallen Marine who felt used by Richardson. Will you apologize...are you sorry...will you stop using their name...
Just strange.
Boy oh boy, Bill and Hill must have ordered Tim to take out after Richardson this morning. He’s pulling up his flip flops.
I think his performance today makes him Hillary's perfect VP candidate and I think that's the point. He provides cover for Hillary's "I'm tough on defense" posturing and will attract a large percentage of the La Raza / Reconquista vote. It may alienate the black and asian voters, but I think the Dhimmicrats believe that they own the black vote no matter what they do and that the asian community is only good as a way to funnel money from the PLA to their campaign.
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