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To: Irontank

What’s a ‘neocon’?


13 posted on 05/25/2007 10:22:19 AM PDT by BenLurkin
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To: BenLurkin
What’s a ‘neocon’?

It's the trendy word for 'boogeyman.'

15 posted on 05/25/2007 10:24:38 AM PDT by atomicpossum (Replies must follow approved guidelines or you will be kill-filed without appeal.)
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To: BenLurkin
What’s a ‘neocon’?

Anybody who's not a moonbat.

17 posted on 05/25/2007 10:26:57 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum ("All the measures of the law should protect property and punish plunder." --Frederic Bastiat)
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To: BenLurkin
What’s a ‘neocon’?

I think the current usage is a term used by liberals to slander anyone who agrees with Bush. But neocon had a far different meaning before liberals hi-jacked it.

19 posted on 05/25/2007 10:28:09 AM PDT by Always Right
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To: BenLurkin
What’s a ‘neocon’?

Anyone who is willing to support Israel. The Neocons are basically the Jooooooos and the friends of the Jooooooos.

In practice, the people who use the word Neocon, do so in a negative way and their basic point is that our support of Israel is the root cause for the problems in the Middle East.

20 posted on 05/25/2007 10:29:09 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy (Enoch Powell was right.)
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To: BenLurkin

A label made up from thin air to make it easy to focus blame on Republicans.

They even like the fact that it almost rimes with Communist.

Ron Paul gets 3% of the vote; Jessie Jackson got more votes so he must represent the Democratic Party, right?


22 posted on 05/25/2007 10:31:54 AM PDT by Goldwater and Gingrich
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To: BenLurkin

A Jewish conservative, according to the lefties.


23 posted on 05/25/2007 10:33:08 AM PDT by Chi-townChief
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To: BenLurkin
What’s a ‘neocon’?

A term coined by Michael Harrington who was a leftist writing about his fellow leftists who he believed had left the reservation (although they remained not what we used to call "conservative"). Irving Kristol (the Godfather of Neoconservatism) wrote a book entitled Neoconservatism: the Autobiography of an Idea. In it he described neoconservatism as:

It describes the erosion of liberal faith among a relatively small but talented and articulate group ... (which gradually gained more recruits) toward a more conservative point of view: conservative but different in certain respects from the conservatism of the Republican party. We ... accepted the New Deal in principle, and had little affection for the kind of isolationism that then permeated American conservatism.

In 1983, Kristol wrote:

A conservative welfare state is perfectly consistent with the neoconservative perspective.

Or take the words of Irving's son, Bill Kristol:

Are we willing to say that the country is worse off because of FDR or JFK or LBJ? I'm not willing to say that.

Irving Kristol again on neoconservatism:

Its 20th-century heroes tend to be TR, FDR, and Ronald Reagan. Such Republican and conservative worthies as Calvin Coolidge, Herbert Hoover, Dwight Eisenhower, and Barry Goldwater are politely overlooked

So...its, in the words of Fred Barnes..."big government conservatism" (an oxymoron in my opinion). Affection for the New Deal, the welfare state, FDR (bit not much interest in Coolidge or Goldwater) and an internationalist, interventionist foreign policy...tremendous faith in the power of goverenment buraeucrats in other words


31 posted on 05/25/2007 10:45:54 AM PDT by Irontank (Ron Paul for President)
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To: BenLurkin
What’s a ‘neocon’?

Originally meant liberals that saw the wisdom of Reagan, but lately it's overused to mean anyone to the right of Stalin because "neo-con" sounds like "neo-nazi".

44 posted on 05/25/2007 11:00:04 AM PDT by randog (What the...?!)
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To: BenLurkin
"What’s a ‘neocon’?"

A big government socailist that doesn't mind sending your kids to war. As opposed to a typical Rat that is a big government socalist that thinks the UN should handle problems. Other then that there is very little difereces between the two main groups of big government socailism.

57 posted on 05/25/2007 11:29:44 AM PDT by jpsb
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To: BenLurkin
What’s a ‘neocon’?

A word used by an author who has just lost the argument. I think we ought to propose a variant of Godwin's Law, to wit: the first person to accuse someone of being a "neocon" has immediately ceded the argument to the other side.

60 posted on 05/25/2007 11:37:55 AM PDT by kevkrom ("Government is too important to leave up to the government" - Fred Dalton Thompson)
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To: BenLurkin

“What’s a ‘neocon’?”

A word that Mick Jagger and a few other brainless jerks use to describe people they do not like and/or that disagree with them on the subject du-jour. It is a meaningless insult... thus an insult without meaning.

NO AMNESTY... SECURE THE BORDER!

LLS


84 posted on 05/25/2007 12:54:01 PM PDT by LibLieSlayer (Support America, Kill terrorists, Destroy dims!)
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To: BenLurkin

The opposite of a RINO which is to say the Anti-Moonbat.


101 posted on 05/25/2007 8:18:39 PM PDT by festus (The constitution may be flawed but its a whole lot better than what we have now.)
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To: BenLurkin; pillut48; Irontank; weegee; atomicpossum; byteback; E. Pluribus Unum; Always Right; ...
"What’s a ‘neocon’?"

1970's and '80s originators of the NeoConservative movement like Irving Kristol, Daniel K. Bell, Midge Decter, Norman Podhoretz, and Nathan Glazer used to sort of define a Neo Conservative as 'a Liberal who's been mugged by reality'( a play on the old saying that a conservative is a liberal who's experienced a mugging.)

A lot of the movement's 'leadership' were bright, academic, former Trotskyists from City College in New York. They'd often been leading scholarly advocates for the Left in the 50's and 60's who had the intellectual honesty to re-assess their position when the empirical results of liberal programs('Beyond the Melting Pot' -Glazer and Moynihan) started to pile up ('Losing Ground'-Charles Murray).

'Commentary' was/is their primary advocacy journal(now along with the Weekly Standard), and they've tended to retain their emphasis on the importance of Israel in U.S. foreign policy, and their Left/pre-conservative adherence to 'Wilsonian'foreign interventionism. They vary on fiscal policy, but generally tend to not mind deficit spending as much as Conservatives ('Paleo-Conservatives'?) do. They usually favor a 'free trade/globalism' foreign trade policy associated with the WTO, NAFTA, FTAA, etc. On these points they differ from traditional Conservatism.

Check out 'Arguing the World', a fun profile documentary of the neoconservatives, available at any good video store.

106 posted on 05/26/2007 2:05:06 AM PDT by ProCivitas (Qui bono? Quo warranto? (Who benefits? By what authority?))
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To: BenLurkin
What’s a ‘neocon’?

A "partriotic" statist. We used to call them fascists. They are crawling all over Free Republic.

Mention "RON PAUL" and they will come snorting out of the woodwork with double barrels...., one of stupidity and one of self righteous "partiotism," and willing to sell out liberty on a dime for it.

141 posted on 05/26/2007 5:14:17 PM PDT by DreamsofPolycarp (Ron Paul in '08)
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To: BenLurkin
What’s a ‘neocon’?

Quite often, it's a codeword for politically conservative Jews...

Cause, don't-cha-know, all the "good" Jews are liberal or just plain hard left.

Mark

147 posted on 05/26/2007 9:03:44 PM PDT by MarkL (Environmental heretics should be burned at the stake, in a "Carbon Neutral" way...)
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To: BenLurkin

It is a term for a Jewish Conservative. Much like Uncle Tom is to a Conservative Black.


161 posted on 05/28/2007 10:43:41 PM PDT by Brimack34
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