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1 posted on 05/25/2007 10:13:28 AM PDT by Irontank
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The Neocon Moment is Over

Said the man who can look out his office window at the Star-Ledge in Newark and see 20 ft high fences with razor wire at the top around all the parking lots, abandoned buildings, street crime, etc.

Someone tell him the Dem decades are over - I can't bear to deal with him anymore.

2 posted on 05/25/2007 10:16:04 AM PDT by relictele
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I’m confused, I thought neocons were the Jooooooooooooooooooz?!


3 posted on 05/25/2007 10:16:15 AM PDT by pillut48 (CJ in TX --Soccer Mom, Bible Thumper and Proud! RUN, FRED, RUN!!!)
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Why doesn’t he just call Rudy the “d-word” and get it over with?


4 posted on 05/25/2007 10:17:25 AM PDT by Chi-townChief
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Tripoli

Nonintervention was never linked to conservatism or liberalism historically. Lame try.

5 posted on 05/25/2007 10:17:58 AM PDT by MrEdd (L. Ron Gore creator of "Fry-n-tology" the global warming religion.)
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Is this guy’s name really “Muleshine”?


6 posted on 05/25/2007 10:18:10 AM PDT by RexBeach (Americans never quit. -Douglas MacArthur)
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To: Irontank; Extremely Extreme Extremist; Rodney King; OrthodoxPresbyterian; Remember_Salamis; ...

Ping


7 posted on 05/25/2007 10:18:33 AM PDT by Irontank (Ron Paul for President)
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I’ve seen JFK labelled as a “neocon”.

The term is pure psychobabble.


9 posted on 05/25/2007 10:19:27 AM PDT by weegee (Libs want us to learn to live with terrorism, but if a gun is used they want to rewrite the Const.)
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Paul invoked the ghost of Robert Taft, the GOP Senate leader who fought entry into NATO. And he also pointed out that messing around in the Mideast creates risks here at home.

Yep, shoulda waited until the entire world was speaking German or Japanese before getting involved.

Yep, shoulda waited until the entire world was ruled from Moscow or Beijing before getting involved.

Yep, should definitely wait until the world courts are under Sharia law before getting involved.

11 posted on 05/25/2007 10:20:53 AM PDT by Egon ("If all your friends were named Cliff, would you jump off them??" - Hugh Neutron)
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Paul Mulshine:
"...Paul not only refused to bow to Il Duce, but after the debate, Paul told the TV audience that the self-appointed saint of 9/11 ...."


I think Paul Mulshine is a FReeper

12 posted on 05/25/2007 10:22:14 AM PDT by Condor51 (Rudy makes John Kerry look like a Right Wing 'Gun Nut' Extremist)
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What’s a ‘neocon’?


13 posted on 05/25/2007 10:22:19 AM PDT by BenLurkin
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Rep. Paul doesn’t call himself a conservative by the way. Read his House Bio. http://www.house.gov/paul/bio.shtml


14 posted on 05/25/2007 10:22:37 AM PDT by RKV (He who has the guns makes the rules)
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I think this writer is on crack. Marxism is an economic theory and the neocon movement is a belief that we should act preemptively in the world.


16 posted on 05/25/2007 10:25:20 AM PDT by byteback
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The neocons are fond of arguing that we can't simply retreat into "fortress America," as they call it. But the impulse to do so is deeply ingrained in the American psyche.

Yes, and it exascerbated the Great Depression, and got us 60 years of big government welfare-state socialism as a result. Maybe a new approach is in order?

If you doubt that, look at the polls on immigration.

Whoa whoa whoa, hunh uh. Two different issues altogether. "Fortress America" has to do with the idiotic paleolibertarian views on foreign policy which state that the USA should have no dealings with other nations, and that we should let anyone and everybody walk all over us if they want to, in the name of "no entanglements". Trying to tie immigration - legal or illegal - in with this is balderdash.

25 posted on 05/25/2007 10:35:50 AM PDT by Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus ("You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means.")
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The "Neocon" movement was never more than a very bad intellectual joke to begin with. That people who admired Leon Trotsky, Lenin's chief butcher in the most evil Revolution in modern European history, could pretend to be either new, two generations after Trotsky, or Conservative, was truly silly. That they got away with it for a time, bespeaks more about the quality of American education, in our times, than about any actual cleverness on the part of the "Neocons."

A couple of years or so ago, we took a good look at them, via an article by their alleged "Godfather:" The Neo-Con Phenomenon.

William Flax

40 posted on 05/25/2007 10:56:48 AM PDT by Ohioan
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The title alone tells me the article is not worth reading, that term is only used by liberals and Ron Paul supporters.


43 posted on 05/25/2007 11:00:00 AM PDT by ravingnutter
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Neocon schmeocon

Hang that frickin word up. We’re all Americans, even the ass orifices that want us to lose and submit rather than fight and win.


45 posted on 05/25/2007 11:02:51 AM PDT by listenhillary (Democrats are sacrificing civilization for political power)
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Neocon - strong government intervention, involvement in foreign affairs, foreign policy

Paleocon - less government intervention, less involvement in foreign affairs, decentralized government

48 posted on 05/25/2007 11:10:44 AM PDT by stainlessbanner
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A neo-con is a liberal crossdressing as a conservative.


56 posted on 05/25/2007 11:27:28 AM PDT by ex-snook ("But above all things, truth beareth away the victory.")
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So-called "neo" conservatism has its roots in a Marxist view of the world.

I wonder if the writer could define what 'neo' conservatism is and specifically what about it shows that it has roots in a 'Marxist view of the world.'

72 posted on 05/25/2007 12:13:48 PM PDT by MEGoody (Ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.)
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“So-called “neo” conservatism has its roots in a Marxist view of the world. So it is not surprising that the neocons are trying to silence their most prominent conservative critic. “

I have seen the tactic of projection used by the best of them, but this????? WHAT??? It would be comical if it weren’t so nasty.


120 posted on 05/26/2007 8:22:46 AM PDT by gidget7 (2Th 2:11 And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie:)
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