It would be more valuable to threaten them with a canned ham if they failed to tell the truth.
Posted on 05/24/2007 11:58:21 AM PDT by TornadoAlley3
GREENSBORO — Muslims can now swear on the Quran when called as witnesses in North Carolina courtrooms, a Wake County judge ruled Thursday.
The decision represents a victory for the American Civil Liberties Union of North Carolina, which sued the state after two Guilford County judges rejected an offer from an Islamic center to provide county courthouses with free copies.
"The highest aim of every legal contest is the search for truth," Wake Superior Court Judge Paul Ridgeway wrote in an 18-page opinion. "To require pious and faithful practitioners of religions other than Christianity to swear oaths in a form other than the form most meaningful to them would thwart the search for the truth.
"It would elevate form over substance."
The Guilford County judges argued that North Carolina law only allowed oaths to be taken on the Bible. Ridgeway agreed that a phrase in written statures, "Holy Scriptures," refers to the Bible, but he cited other case law that would allow a Muslim to swear on the Quran.
His ruling is not limited to Muslims. For instance: Jewish worshippers can swear on the Hebrew Bible and Hindus on the Bhagavad-Gita. State law also allows people to affirm testimony by raising their hand.
The state has 30 days to appeal Ridgeway’s ruling to the N.C. Court of Appeals. Noelle Talley, a spokeswoman for the state Attorney General, said the office is reviewing the decision and has not decided whether to appeal.
An attorney for the ACLU of North Carolina applauded the Wake judge’s decision.
"We’re extremely pleased," said Seth Cohen, a Greensboro lawyer and lead attorney with the ACLU state chapter. "What we asked the court to do was to allow all people of faith to be able to use the religious text of their choice to be sworn in."
The Quran debate started in 2003, when a Browns Summit woman, Syidah Mateen, appeared as a witness in a domestic violence hearing. Mateen asked to swear on the Quran rather than the Bible.
No copy was available. When Mateen shared her experience with other members of a local Islamic center, the group collected money to buy and donate eight copies of the text.
The Guilford County judges rejected their donation in 2005. The state Administrative Office of the Courts declined to intervene, leading the ACLU to sue the state.
Another Wake judge initially dismissed the lawsuit, ruling that neither the ACLU nor Mateen demonstrated a legal controversy existed. The Court of Appeals overturned the dismissal early this year.
"I thought we would deliver them and everything would be quiet and we’d get it done. But it didn’t happen that way," Mateen said. "Not in a million years did I think it would get to this point.
"If you keep the faith, and do what you feel is right in your heart, you can be victorious. Today is a good day."
Ridgeway’s ruling does not require courthouses to keep religious texts on hand. It also affords judges the right to ban certain texts if the material "interferes with the dignity of the court."
Why? Have the courts run out of toilet paper?
I solemnly swear to tell lies, all lies, and nothing but lies to these infidels, so help me moongod?
OK, now what are the atheists going to use? Origin of the Species? A picture of Castro?
The Koran says LYING IS OK!!! To swear to tell the truth on such a book is meaningless... Islam is not Judeo/Christian thought....
Truth is not revered in Islam, survival and domination is... if you lie for this “greater cause” you commit no sin.. so swearing to tell the truth on this book is meaningless.
I solemnly swear or affirm that I will tell the truth, whole truth, and nothing but the truth, so help me God or under penalty of perjury.
Gee, do you think the Arab Emirates will allow me to swear on a Bible in Dubai?
“OK, now what are the atheists going to use? Origin of the Species? A picture of Castro?”
It’s not like Lightning strikes you when you lie under christian / catholic oath. Everyone can lie, and a swearing in doesn’t physically prevent you from lying.
The whole oath thing is worthless. It’s evidence that matters, regardless of what you say.
Ask Clinton !
Yeah, I was just thinking I’m going to demand to take the oath with my hand holding a roll of Charmin.
I’ve been sworn a couple of times in Wisconsin & a Bible was not used.
Same with me when I was in AZ. Just held up my right hand.
Well, that, and the fact that Sears no longer publishes that telephone book sized catalog.
sure right before you hear the “schwing” of a sharp blade separating you head from your neck....
It would be more valuable to threaten them with a canned ham if they failed to tell the truth.
And it would be more meaningful to have them swear on a Christian bible?
FMCDH(BITS)
Actually, this is pretty fascinating. Some US court judge who knows squat about Islam, has now made it official that Muslims can not only lie in court, they can follow the tenets of Mohammed who encouraged them to lie to infidels (us) and use the Koran to sanction their lying in a US (read "infidel") court of law.
The irony is delicious!!
Hey, not all of us are communists.
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