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What Does It Mean "The South Shall Rise Again":
The Wichita (KS) Eagle ^ | 23 May 2007 | Mark McCormick

Posted on 05/24/2007 6:03:30 AM PDT by Rebeleye

...he was stunned to see two large Confederate flags flying from trucks...emblazoned with the words "The South Shall Rise Again." I'm stunned, too, that people still think it is cool to fly this flag. Our society should bury these flags -- not flaunt them...because the Confederate flag symbolizes racial tyranny to so many... ...This flag doesn't belong on city streets, in videos or in the middle of civil discussion. It belongs in our past -- in museums and in history books -- along with the ideas it represents.

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Lawyer Richard Ney admits he didn't like being told that he couldn't park in front of his office last week when country recording artist Craig Morgan shot a video at First and Broadway downtown.

But more than that, Ney said, he was stunned to see two large Confederate flags flying from trucks in the video staging area, emblazoned with the words "The South Shall Rise Again."

I'm stunned, too, that people still think it is cool to fly this flag. Our society should bury these flags -- not flaunt them.

Why?

Because the Confederate flag symbolizes racial tyranny to so many, including Ney.

"I was appalled that this racist symbol was receiving de facto sanction by the city of Wichita," Ney wrote to me in an e-mail.

Not so, said City Attorney Gary Rebensdorf.

By law, Rebensdorf said, the city could not consider the content of the speech produced by the people responsible for the music video.

"The city did not condone any acts or statements by Craig Morgan or those working with him," Rebensdorf said. "Neither did it censure those acts or comments. If the city had attempted such improper censorship, Morgan could have found several lawyers in the same building as Mr. Ney's office who would have gladly taken that case."

Said city spokesman Van Williams: "It's a First Amendment issue. City government can't keep insensitive idiots off the streets any more than The Eagle can keep them out of its Opinion Line."

Ney called that argument "nonsense."

"The message is not important to the city?" Ney asked. "Does the city contend that they would give equal treatment for a Nazi street fair or a Klan festival? Close down a busy city intersection for a day so Michael Moore could film an anti-Bush TV spot? I think not."

Dallas Henry, the video's director and producer, said he didn't realize the flags were there; area residents were invited to come down to fill the streets with vehicles. The flags definitely won't appear in the video, he added.

"No way. Absolutely not," Henry said from Los Angeles. "If I had seen them, I would have taken them down. I was watching the monitor, and it wasn't in any of the shots."

If the director didn't know the flags were there, certainly the city couldn't have known. The Eagle reporter covering the event didn't see them, either.

Still, the larger issue is the insistence of too many people to publicly fly this flag.

Last month, University of South Carolina football coach Steve Spurrier caused a stir when he said a televised game had been marred "by some clown... waving that dang, damn Confederate flag behind the TV set. And it was embarrassing to me and I know embarrassing to our state."

A few years ago, a Derby student drew the flag and got suspended. Later, the appearance of the flag at the downtown flag pavilion offended people.

Now this.

The interesting thing here is how Ney, the city and even the producer of the video seem to agree that, at minimum, the Confederate flag is divisive.

They understand the terror and hate that the flag represents for lots of people.

So why are people still flying it?

When the South rises again, what does that mean? Another Civil War? Rejection of American principles? A return to slavery?

This flag doesn't belong on city streets, in videos or in the middle of civil discussion.

It belongs in our past -- in museums and in history books -- along with the ideas it represents.

1 posted on 05/24/2007 6:03:32 AM PDT by Rebeleye
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To: Rebeleye

Looks like this fool Ney is trying to make a name for himself.

He should stick to chasing ambulances.


2 posted on 05/24/2007 6:05:07 AM PDT by mkjessup (Jan 20, 2009 - "We Don't Know. Where Rudy Went. Just Glad He's Not. The President. Burma Shave.")
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To: Rebeleye

I’m pure yankee and the flag doesn’t bother me a bit.


3 posted on 05/24/2007 6:07:45 AM PDT by cripplecreek (Greed is NOT a conservative ideal.)
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To: mkjessup; Rebeleye

What do you expect from a border state?........


4 posted on 05/24/2007 6:08:42 AM PDT by Red Badger (My gerund got caught in my diphthong, and now I have a dangling participle...............)
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To: Rebeleye

Fools wo forget, or worse yet deny history, are doomed to repeat it.


5 posted on 05/24/2007 6:10:02 AM PDT by xcamel (Press to Test, Release to Detonate)
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To: Rebeleye
The solution to bad speech is more speech. Here is what I say;

Yeeeehhhaaawwwwwhh - The Sauth weeel rahs ahgeeen!

And what lose?

6 posted on 05/24/2007 6:12:13 AM PDT by frithguild (The Freepers moved as a group, like a school of sharks sweeping toward an unaware and unarmed victim)
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To: cripplecreek
I’m pure yankee and the flag doesn’t bother me a bit.

Hey I'm pure Yankee too. When I was growing up however many kids I knew adopted the confederate flag (wore it on hats, put it on their cars, etc.). To them it had nothing to do with racism but instead was a mere symbol of just being a "rebel" or being independent, etc. Nobody thought about it any deeper than that.

8 posted on 05/24/2007 6:12:57 AM PDT by rhombus
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To: Rebeleye

Wichita - how ironic...


9 posted on 05/24/2007 6:14:35 AM PDT by an amused spectator (Gun Control, the Sequel: More and Morerer)
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To: Rebeleye
What Ney and others refuse to consider is that in those days, a battle flag was necessary because it identified who was present, and where they were. No matter which flag was displayed, nimrods like Ney would still say the flag represented racism, instead of admitting that they served as battlefield identifiers. He and the other screwballs probably think both sides should have flown identical flags so that no one would be offended. Maybe the flags should have had cuddly puppies and kitties.
10 posted on 05/24/2007 6:15:07 AM PDT by Enterprise (I can't talk about liberals anymore because some of the words will get me sent to rehab.)
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To: mkjessup

Damn Carpetbagger...They are just jealous.


11 posted on 05/24/2007 6:15:09 AM PDT by AlexW (Reporting from Bratislava, Slovakia)
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To: Rebeleye
"The South Shall Rise Again"

To this Yankee, it means that Democrat redneck white trash want to go back to the good old days of segregation, lynching, and enslavement of black people.

12 posted on 05/24/2007 6:16:18 AM PDT by D-Chivas
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To: Rebeleye

I think we have much greater problems with the Politicly Left in this country than we have with the Rebel Flag.

I have great worries with the Illegal Mexicans flying the Mexican flag during Hateful protests than I do with the rebel Flag.

Get A Grip.


13 posted on 05/24/2007 6:16:41 AM PDT by chatham
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To: xcamel
"Fools wo forget,"

True. Wo has been forgotten already.

14 posted on 05/24/2007 6:17:10 AM PDT by Enterprise (I can't talk about liberals anymore because some of the words will get me sent to rehab.)
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To: TonyRo76

Amen brother. You took the words right out of my mouth.

A proud southern cajun boy.


15 posted on 05/24/2007 6:17:38 AM PDT by nanook (Thomas Jefferson had it right.)
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To: cripplecreek
I’m pure yankee and the flag doesn’t bother me a bit.

On the other hand, when I see a bunch of people waving the confederate battle flag I get the urge to buy a Dodge Charger, paint it dark blue with a 35 star Union flag on the top, and wire it's horn to play the Battle Hymm of the Republic. I'll name it the General Grant.

16 posted on 05/24/2007 6:17:59 AM PDT by KarlInOhio (Parker v. DC: the best court decision of the year.)
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To: frithguild

“Ah ain’t no ways tahrrred of that flag.”


17 posted on 05/24/2007 6:18:09 AM PDT by Joe 6-pack (Que me amat, amet et canem meum.)
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To: Enterprise

lol - “who”.
Wo was “workin’ on the railroad”


18 posted on 05/24/2007 6:18:36 AM PDT by xcamel (Press to Test, Release to Detonate)
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To: Rebeleye

I’m not ashamed to be “white”.


19 posted on 05/24/2007 6:19:39 AM PDT by SWEETSUNNYSOUTH (Help stamp out liberalism!)
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To: Rebeleye
Maybe it means that States Rights will mean something again one day.

Here is a video that was posted in another thread. It was originally on Youtube, but got pulled for some reason. This is the only site I can find it on now.

Be advised that there are links to adult oriented videos at this site.

http://www.yikers.com/video_the_civil_war_in_four_minutes.html

I’m not going to debate the civil war. But, watch the casualty numbers and also watch how aggressive the South was in trying to Conquer the North.

Oops, I think I meant the North attacking the South

20 posted on 05/24/2007 6:20:37 AM PDT by Gvl_M3 (Sometimes, you have to stand up for yourself, even if it doesn't look "Compassionate.")
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