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What Does It Mean "The South Shall Rise Again":
The Wichita (KS) Eagle ^ | 23 May 2007 | Mark McCormick

Posted on 05/24/2007 6:03:30 AM PDT by Rebeleye

...he was stunned to see two large Confederate flags flying from trucks...emblazoned with the words "The South Shall Rise Again." I'm stunned, too, that people still think it is cool to fly this flag. Our society should bury these flags -- not flaunt them...because the Confederate flag symbolizes racial tyranny to so many... ...This flag doesn't belong on city streets, in videos or in the middle of civil discussion. It belongs in our past -- in museums and in history books -- along with the ideas it represents.

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To: FredHunter08
If you read the lyrics of the “Battle Hymn of the Republic”, it refers to killing American civilians, families....

Nope. You're projecting how you feel about Northern battle conduct onto lyrics that have nothing to do with specific tactics.

What do you think “trample out the vintage where the grapes of wrath are stored”?

Read Lincoln's Second Inaugural and ask yourself that question again.

161 posted on 05/24/2007 7:25:27 AM PDT by Mr. Silverback (A pacifist sees no distinction between the arsonist and the fireman--Freeper ccmay)
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To: FredHunter08
Hey Y'all. I'm Southern by birth (Wise County Virginia, next county over is Lee) and a Tennessean now. Family has been in the US since around 1650 or so. I'm all about the heritage of the battle flag as I had family fight for it.

It always breaks my heart to see the flag at KKK rallies though. Those idiots perpetuate myths and misunderstanding by hiding behind it.

My tag line ain't about North or South. Its about Gen. Sherman.

162 posted on 05/24/2007 7:25:39 AM PDT by LimaLimaMikeFoxtrot ("If you don't have my army supplied, and keep it supplied, we'll eat your mules up, sir"-Sherman)
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To: zeugma

Your picture is one of the reasons this country has been so successful.
It was only a very few years after the war that folks were getting together on battlefields for reenactments and picnics. Men in Blue and Gray would willingly sit down at the dinner table and break bread together.

In other nations, you see deep animosities that periodically result in pogroms, and general death and mayhem.

Sure, we still have regional rivalries, but that’s fairly natural, and pre-existed the War Between the States anyway.

Marse Robert’s actions in April, 1865 (I highly recommend the book ‘April 1865’) went a long way to making this happen.


163 posted on 05/24/2007 7:26:27 AM PDT by Badeye (You know its a kook site when they ban the word 'kook')
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To: FredHunter08
Not my point, or their’s.

That quote of your was preceded with: The British opinion of all this was interesting, to say the least.

I know your a newbie here, but that's no excuse to make up BS to get your point across.

And making up more BS when you are called for your original BS doesn't make you look any better.
164 posted on 05/24/2007 7:26:39 AM PDT by HEY4QDEMS (Sarchasm: The gulf between the author of sarcastic wit and the person who doesn't get it.)
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To: weegee
The La Raza clan shout about Aztlan. Isn’t that a notion of “The South Is Gonna Rise Again”?

THIS is what so many people don't get.

While the Founders believed "All men were created equal", it didn't mean society or government was obligated to keep them that way. There actually was (and still is) a legalistic tier of different types of ~persons~

While slaves were property, what we call 'illegals' today were referred to as 'denizens', and denizens did NOT have the same legal standing as a citizen of one of the several States. Denizens had natural rights, but not civil ones.

Thats why today's illegals have more rights than the people that were born here....they are still 'natural persons' in law, with all of their freedoms still attached, while a "citizen of the United States" is an artificial person with only privileges granted by government.

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"A citizen of the United States is a citizen of the federal government ..."
(Kitchens v. Steele 112 F.Supp 383).

165 posted on 05/24/2007 7:27:01 AM PDT by MamaTexan (Government cannot make a law contrary to the law that made the government)
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To: Virginia Ridgerunner

Great pic.


166 posted on 05/24/2007 7:27:52 AM PDT by Badeye (You know its a kook site when they ban the word 'kook')
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To: TonyRo76
To me, the Confederate flag stands for states' rights, self-determination, honor, courage and bold defiance against authoritarian government. It's also an historic symbol of Southern heritage—a heritage in which I proudly share. Unless you're a professional race-pimp (à la Je$$e Jack$on), a socialist educrat or an MSM brownshirt, the Confederate flag shouldn't offend you in the least.

If it does offend you, you need a history lesson!

You are absolutely correct. History is always distorted in favor of the winners. The descendants of the winners are now being beaten down by the globalist forces, in part because they have bought into the racial history teachings and are ignoring states' rights, self-determination, honor, courage and bold defiance against authoritarian government.

167 posted on 05/24/2007 7:28:27 AM PDT by ghostrider
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To: Mr. Silverback
“Nope. You’re projecting how you feel about Northern battle conduct onto lyrics that have nothing to do with specific tactics.”

Not specific tactics, just a desire to punish Southern Americans.

“Read Lincoln’s Second Inaugural and ask yourself that question again.”

The Battle Hymn of the Republic was written by Julia Howe, not Lincoln.

168 posted on 05/24/2007 7:28:32 AM PDT by FredHunter08 (Guiliani! Come and Take Them!)
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To: FredHunter08; RegulatorCountry
You think the average Northerner had a problem with it?

There you go; lose the argument - change the terms. The original comment had to do with the claim that the South was fighting to preserve "government for the people, by the people and of the people”.

Not only is the phrase strangely borrowed from Lincoln, but it's use to justify a democracy built on enslaving 1/3 of the population, and dedicated to preserving the States' "right" to do so, is somewhat discordant.

169 posted on 05/24/2007 7:29:20 AM PDT by LexBaird (PR releases are the Chinese dog food of political square meals.)
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To: freedomfiter2; SWEETSUNNYSOUTH; BnBlFlag; catfish1957; afnamvet; StoneWall Brigade; L98Fiero; ...
In case you missed this one.....
Dixie Ping
170 posted on 05/24/2007 7:29:36 AM PDT by stainlessbanner
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To: D-Chivas

“To this Yankee, it means that Democrat redneck white trash want to go back to the good old days of segregation, lynching, and enslavement of black people.”

In your case, thats not a bad idea.


171 posted on 05/24/2007 7:30:15 AM PDT by antisocial (Texas SCV - Deo Vindice)
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To: FredHunter08

And I, as a southerner, don’t give a rat’s behind WHAT a yankee thinks about anything, particularly anything in the south. Outside agitaters have no clout here.


172 posted on 05/24/2007 7:30:31 AM PDT by twonie ( watch this space)
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To: 1rudeboy
Makes you wonder if more libs should've played "capture the flag" as little kids.

Some of the most enjoyable hours of my youth!

173 posted on 05/24/2007 7:31:00 AM PDT by LantzALot
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To: HEY4QDEMS
“That quote of your was preceded with: The British opinion of all this was interesting, to say the least. “

That referred to a general view of their opinion from their press. Unless, of course, you think there was actually a man named “British” to be quoted. I would presume that from your asinine argument.

“I know your a newbie here, but that’s no excuse to make up BS to get your point across.

And making up more BS when you are called for your original BS doesn’t make you look any better.”

Being too dense to see the point isn’t making you look very good, son. Calling the ancestors of a bastion of conservatism in the United States “enemies of America” isn’t either.

174 posted on 05/24/2007 7:31:28 AM PDT by FredHunter08 (Guiliani! Come and Take Them!)
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To: Non-Sequitur; TonyRo76; LS
Authoritarian government? Until they walked out the South pretty much ran the government. If it was authoriarian then weren't they responsible?

Everyone interested in the Civil war should also check out the section on Southern Big Government in LS's "A Patriot's History of the United States." A real eye-opener...the Confederate government was pretty much running the entire economy down to the smallest detail.

175 posted on 05/24/2007 7:32:09 AM PDT by Mr. Silverback (A pacifist sees no distinction between the arsonist and the fireman--Freeper ccmay)
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To: twonie

“And I, as a southerner, don’t give a rat’s behind WHAT a yankee thinks about anything, particularly anything in the south. Outside agitaters have no clout here.”

The problem is, they all want to move down here and ruin it.


176 posted on 05/24/2007 7:32:16 AM PDT by FredHunter08 (Guiliani! Come and Take Them!)
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To: FredHunter08; LexBaird
How do you propose that this be stopped?

In all fairness the average Southern supporter is no more responsible for the misuse of the confederate flag by hate groups as the average Christian is for the misuse of the cross by those same people.

177 posted on 05/24/2007 7:32:38 AM PDT by Non-Sequitur (Save Fredericksburg. Support CVBT.)
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To: antisocial

You can lead a yankee to the truth, but that doesn’t overcome years of public schooling and indoctrination of the terminally brain dead.


178 posted on 05/24/2007 7:32:40 AM PDT by Leatherneck_MT (The Republican Party's continued idiocy, proves the TV Series, Lost In Space, was a documentary.)
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To: Non-Sequitur

WEll, you need to find something to do besides making trouble where none exists in places you do not belong. Ain’t too much to do in Kansas, is there.


179 posted on 05/24/2007 7:33:03 AM PDT by twonie ( watch this space)
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To: Mr. Silverback

“A real eye-opener...the Confederate government was pretty much running the entire economy down to the smallest detail.”

True, but the North was run the same way during the war.


180 posted on 05/24/2007 7:33:05 AM PDT by FredHunter08 (Guiliani! Come and Take Them!)
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